hypercafe Posted January 24, 2014 #1 Share Posted January 24, 2014 just looked at the 2014 ship ratings, Crystal ships are 1 & 2 in their class and the O class Oceania ships are 3 & 4 in the same class. Sounds great to me as we are back on the Riviera in March and then on the Symphony in June. Regent is talked about a lot on both boards, they did not show in their class nor did Azamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prada Cowboy Posted January 25, 2014 #2 Share Posted January 25, 2014 That's fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted January 25, 2014 #3 Share Posted January 25, 2014 just looked at the 2014 ship ratings, Crystal ships are 1 & 2 in their class and the O class Oceania ships are 3 & 4 in the same class. Sounds great to me as we are back on the Riviera in March and then on the Symphony in June. Regent is talked about a lot on both boards, they did not show in their class nor did Azamara. Sounds great, but never heard of Berlitz rating cruise ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypercafe Posted January 25, 2014 Author #4 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Sounds great, but never heard of Berlitz rating cruise ships. They publish a rather large book on just that with a rating and write up on what seems like every ship afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted January 25, 2014 #5 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Thanks, I will have to look for it. Should be very interesting. :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted January 25, 2014 #6 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Berlitz is one of the most respected ship rating services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Luxury Posted January 25, 2014 #7 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Berlitz is one of the most respected ship rating services. Berlitz is the only one that I would consider all the rest are not worth bothering with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arusha Posted January 25, 2014 #8 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Thanks, I will have to look for it. Should be very interesting. :):) The book with all the ratings is "Berlitz Cruising & Cruise Ships" by Douglas Ward. They publish an updated version every year. List price is $24.99, but you can get it cheaper at Amazon and Barnes & Noble. It contains detailed info that I found very useful when I started cruising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted January 25, 2014 #9 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Berlitz is the only one that I would consider all the rest are not worth bothering with. Wow, never knew that. Learn something new every day if I am lucky. Always thought that O was something special and just had it confirmed by an expert. Can't wait for our Feb, cruise. :):) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_uk Posted January 27, 2014 #10 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Berlitz is the only one that I would consider all the rest are not worth bothering with. Frankly I could care less what the so called experts at Berlitz have to say about the ships. I prefer the honest opinions of fellow Cruisers here on CC. Does Berlitz accept paid advertising I wonder ? Does Berltz consider what dress code I prefer ? Are the reviewers at Berlitz named in the Reports ? So many questions...... Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimandStan Posted January 27, 2014 #11 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Frankly I could care less what the so called experts at Berlitz have to say about the ships. I prefer the honest opinions of fellow Cruisers here on CC.Does Berlitz accept paid advertising I wonder ? Does Berltz consider what dress code I prefer ? Are the reviewers at Berlitz named in the Reports ? So many questions...... Brian +1 Back in the day, I eagerly devoured Cruise publications by Fodors, Berlitz, Birnbaum et al, because they were literally the only outlet to Ship reviews and ratings. They all seem tragically dated in today's World.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKS Posted January 27, 2014 #12 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Interesting observation. I hadn't really thought about it, but you're absolutely right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotto22 Posted January 28, 2014 #13 Share Posted January 28, 2014 I disagree. On each of the boards on these forums, you have almost obsessive devotees to their favorite cruise line that I don't think there is a lot of objectivity amongst many of the posters. Occasionally there are some very objective posters who will compare cruise lines unemotionally and I appreciate that. But for someone like myself who is trying to decide between two new lines and one that I have cruised on before, I have not found a lot of fact based information, but a lot of cheerleading. It is nice that everyone loves their favorite ship and line, but personally I appreciate an objective analysis once in a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_uk Posted January 29, 2014 #14 Share Posted January 29, 2014 You only have to read the recent assessment from LHT to discount your theory. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelcat2 Posted January 29, 2014 #15 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Frankly I could care less what the so called experts at Berlitz have to say about the ships. I prefer the honest opinions of fellow Cruisers here on CC.Does Berlitz accept paid advertising I wonder ? Does Berltz consider what dress code I prefer ? Are the reviewers at Berlitz named in the Reports ? So many questions...... Brian +1 I respected them at one time ....... they belong in the last century. While I love Oceania, any resemblance between Oceania and Crystal is coincidental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag fan Posted January 30, 2014 #16 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I find the Berlitz book very useful--I buy the new one every year (they also have an app). It's a good way to compare ships and cruise lines and provides a lot of basic information that is helpful, such as crew to passenger ratio, space ratios, information about size of public rooms and cabins, and other statistics, as well as general descriptions of décor, entertainment, food options, and type of people who are likely to enjoy the ship. It is definitely not a substitute for Cruise Critic, but if you are open to consider cruising on different ships or a variety of cruise lines, it is a very useful resource for a relatively modest price (considering the cost of cruising). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonardofan Posted January 30, 2014 #17 Share Posted January 30, 2014 (edited) Frankly I could care less what the so called experts at Berlitz have to say about the ships. I prefer the honest opinions of fellow Cruisers here on CC.Does Berlitz accept paid advertising I wond Does Berltz consider what dress code I prefer Are the reviewers at Berlitz named in the Reports So many questions....... Brian Your cynicism is unwarranted--they do not take ads, Mr Ward reviews all ships personally, preferences of passengers are addressed. Have a look--its very much worth it. Edited January 30, 2014 by leonardofan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimandStan Posted January 30, 2014 #18 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Your cynicism is unwarranted--they do not take ads, Mr Ward reviews all ships personally, preferences of passengers are addressed. Have a look--its very much worth it. Id like to believe that what you say is true, and while it is correct that there is no paid advertising in the Berlitz Cruise Guides per se, Douglas Ward uses that springboard to sell himself as a Cruising expert on any number of Travel Sites which ARE advertisement driven. Pertinent to the veracity of his "reviews", his likeness is all over the Internet, so I'm finding it difficult to believe that Mr. Wards' shipboard experiences are painted with the same unfiltered varnish as yours or mine. I just finished reading MiMi Sheratons' excellent autobiography in which she outlines how she was forced to prematurely resign as the New York Times Restaurant Critic, when her face became known and restaurant owners universally refused to grant her a "normal" experience in their dining rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_uk Posted February 1, 2014 #19 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Your cynicism is unwarranted--they do not take ads, Mr Ward reviews all ships personally, preferences of passengers are addressed. Have a look--its very much worth it. What moi ? Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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