Seydlitz Posted January 22, 2015 #476 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Carnival has gone down hill with this one. It seems to me that they are really trying hard to polish a turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branman Posted January 22, 2015 #477 Share Posted January 22, 2015 There will be Havana Cabanas which will connect to a private pool and have patios with deck furniture and yes..............hammocks.In the evening the Havana pool area will be open to all guests:D This is really the feature that really bugs me about this ship-- the restricted deck 5 aft pool. A pool and two hot tubs are a huge space of the ship to be restricted to ~100 guests during most of the day. When I first saw the renderings this morning, I was really pumped by this feature, but now it's a big letdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmgonnagetcha Posted January 22, 2015 #478 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) This is really the feature that really bugs me about this ship-- the restricted deck 5 aft pool. A pool and two hot tubs are a huge space of the ship to be restricted to ~100 guests during most of the day. When I first saw the renderings this morning, I was really pumped by this feature, but now it's a big letdown. Separation of the classes has begun. Thank you Edited January 22, 2015 by karmgonnagetcha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velvetwater Posted January 22, 2015 #479 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) I feel the same about the Havana Pool....my above post was before I found out. Although I suppose theres always the option to make it public and sell the Havanas as general cabana cabins which is still a selling point. Also, the cabins are not in the most peaceful place: By a walkway Above the noisy places on deck 4 Next to a bar that parties all night Hmmmm...not sure if thats worth it so I will just make friends with Havana peoples :D. Edited January 22, 2015 by Velvetwater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branman Posted January 22, 2015 #480 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Separation of the classes has begun. Thank you That's exactly right. This is the first example of taking something that is otherwise included (pool and hot tubs) and making it private for a certain group of people. This is very different from the spa cabins where it takes something that is not included and includes it. Creating an upper class is a first from Carnival. Edited January 22, 2015 by Branman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsteph Posted January 22, 2015 #481 Share Posted January 22, 2015 That's exactly right. This is the first example of taking something that is otherwise included (pool and hot tubs) and making it private for a certain group of people. This is very different from the spa cabins where it takes something that is not included and includes it. Creating an upper class is a first from Carnival. I have a 14 day booked in 2016 and was thinking about changing it to the Vista since it was rumored to be going to Europe. This whole class-creation thing has actually turned me away from it, and I don't even really use the pools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goduckies05 Posted January 22, 2015 #482 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Where does it say it is a private pool? Sent from my SM-G900P using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branman Posted January 23, 2015 #483 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Where does it say it is a private pool? Sent from my SM-G900P using Forums mobile app A post on John Heald's facebook. It was posted on the previous page where he mentions that it will be open to everyone in the evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck64 Posted January 23, 2015 #484 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Carnival has gone down hill with this one. It seems to me that they are really trying hard to polish a turd. Totally disagree. Everything about the ship looks nice! I guess to each their own.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamsteph Posted January 23, 2015 #485 Share Posted January 23, 2015 You know, I bet they are limited access to that pool so that they can then sell access as a perk, similar to the FTTF. Carnival CEO 1: We've got to increase revenues somehow! Carnival CEO 2: We charge for everything we can right now! Carnival CEO 3: Well why give them the pools for free? Sure, we cannot charge for all the pools because we say that's included in their fare. But what if we limit access to one of the pools, give special access to the pool to a few cabins and charge them more for it. But let's make sure it's a reeeeeeally big pool. A few cabins don't need a super large pool and two hot tubs. But with all that extra space, we can then charge an entrance/usage fee to the rest of the ship! Boom! Extra revenues! We've got them paying extra for something we've told them is included! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelate Posted January 23, 2015 #486 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It's simply a way for them to compete with NCL's "The Haven," which offers a private pool to suite guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJfromIowa Posted January 23, 2015 #487 Share Posted January 23, 2015 This is really the feature that really bugs me about this ship-- the restricted deck 5 aft pool. A pool and two hot tubs are a huge space of the ship to be restricted to ~100 guests during most of the day. When I first saw the renderings this morning, I was really pumped by this feature, but now it's a big letdown. Yeah, that is a bummer. It wouldn't have been so bad if they had kept the 4 hot tubs on the side of the promenade, Like they have on the three ships in Dream class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branman Posted January 23, 2015 #488 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It's simply a way for them to compete with NCL's "The Haven," which offers a private pool to suite guests. The whole point is that this goes against what Carnival has been traditionally all about. I thought the point was that once you're on the ship, Carnival treats pretty much everyone exactly the same: the same amenities are included in a 1-A cabin that are included in a suite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelate Posted January 23, 2015 #489 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The whole point is that this goes against what Carnival has been traditionally all about. I thought the point was that once you're on the ship, Carnival treats pretty much everyone exactly the same: the same amenities are included in a 1-A cabin that are included in a suite. Even priority boarding for kettles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branman Posted January 23, 2015 #490 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Even priority boarding for kettles? That's before you get on board. The only priority amenity that exists on the ship is the guest services line, and that would only be a class-upgrade for FTTF guests. I guess you could count the gold, plat, and diamond party and the diamond-only event, but that's stretching it since that has nothing to do with the purchased fare. Either way, it's still a big stretch to compare loyalty program rewards with a separate area of the ship with its own private amenities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjknox Posted January 23, 2015 #491 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It's simply a way for them to compete with NCL's "The Haven," which offers a private pool to suite guests. The two are completely different. The Haven is an entire area dedicated for certain passengers 24/7. While the Vista's is only during the day, mind you other passengers will still be in the vicinity at the Havana bar and on the promenade. In other words the haven is an immersive experience while this is for convenience during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelate Posted January 23, 2015 #492 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) The two are completely different. The Haven is an entire area dedicated for certain passengers 24/7. While the Vista's is only during the day, mind you other passengers will still be in the vicinity at the Havana bar and on the promenade. In other words the haven is an immersive experience while this is for convenience during the day. How are they completely different, Cameron? They both provide an opportunity to have private access to a pool when staying in a specific stateroom type at a higher cost. Even with limited hours and the Havana Bar, it is still a private pool. Edited January 23, 2015 by Pixelate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
undertheradar Posted January 23, 2015 #493 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Vista looks great. Especially, the amusement park area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelate Posted January 23, 2015 #494 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Vista looks great. Especially, the amusement park area. Funny you should mention that. I heard that only Royal Caribbean was like an amusement park... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 23, 2015 #495 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Funny you should mention that. I heard that only Royal Caribbean was like an amusement park... I knew you were waiting for someone to bring that up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelate Posted January 23, 2015 #496 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I knew you were waiting for someone to bring that up.... Guilty. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babycat Posted January 23, 2015 #497 Share Posted January 23, 2015 It looks great! Carnival Vista: Meet Our New Ship: http://youtu.be/T_JZhBv-J2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 23, 2015 #498 Share Posted January 23, 2015 How are they completely different, Cameron? They both provide an opportunity to have private access to a pool when staying in a specific stateroom type at a higher cost. Even with limited hours and the Havana Bar, it is still a private pool. I have to say, they might be the best rooms on the ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ4 Posted January 23, 2015 #499 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I knew you were waiting for someone to bring that up.... LOL. You set yourself up for that one. :p;):D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted January 23, 2015 #500 Share Posted January 23, 2015 LOL. You set yourself up for that one. :p;):D He actually gave me warning as well....;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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