How bad is the smoke on the smaller ships?

[Golfin55]

It's annoying no matter what ship your on.

Our SA cruise was the worst as it seems the majority of Europeans are still smoking and with what looks like the woman leading the pack, which really surprised us.

 

To clarify we were in an aft cabin next to a penthouse and NCL had just put in the no smoking policy in cabins and so the gang next to us had their entire entourage coming and going onto their balcony at all hours of the day and night.

 

With that cruise we decided no more but then they banned smoking on balconies so we didn't stop but have to avoid the casino at all costs.

 

I can't wait for the day when they ban it outright and to the naysayers it will come sooner rather than later.

 

 

Big tobacco is a POWERFUL lobby in D.C. My taxes are lower as a result of the tariff collected on every pack of smokes. I hope your ready to pay my share of the estimated 8% in tax savings I receive as a result of people continuing to smoke. And if smoking was banned, the very cruises you love so much will also become more expensive. Why you ask... People who smoke usually have other vices i.e.; gambling and booze.

 

When those revenues drop, prices will rise as a result. So, it really is not so cut and dry. Just look at the history of the Carnival Paradise. They lost millions of revenue on that ship... Remember it the Carnivals first, only & last 100% smoke free ship.

 

Gambling and booze sales were down HUGE. By the way the Paradise reversed the smoke free policy years ago. And just for the record, I do not smoke.

[Golfin55]

No smoking policy really, really hurt the Revel Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City....till they had to close. That was,the biggest complaint about the place.

Safe sailing

 

 

That's not true, the smoking ban did not last long

http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf/2013/06/revel_changes_its_tune_welcomes_smokers_and_gambler.html

 

The Revel closed because A@&holes ran the joint into the ground.

It was miss managed from day 1. It never had a chance...

 

Tons of articles at the press of Atlantic city.

[maywell]

Big tobacco is a POWERFUL lobby in D.C. My taxes are lower as a result of the tariff collected on every pack of smokes. I hope your ready to pay my share of the estimated 8% in tax savings I receive as a result of people continuing to smoke. And if smoking was banned, the very cruises you love so much will also become more expensive. Why you ask... People who smoke usually have other vices i.e.; gambling and booze.

 

When those revenues drop, prices will rise as a result. So, it really is not so cut and dry. Just look at the history of the Carnival Paradise. They lost millions of revenue on that ship... Remember it the Carnivals first, only & last 100% smoke free ship.

 

Gambling and booze sales were down HUGE. By the way the Paradise reversed the smoke free policy years ago. And just for the record, I do not smoke.

 

You forgot to mention Disney Cruises and no the gambling on their ships - they gotta make money somehow since it missing one of the three money-making vices (smoking and drinking are the other two). Guess, some people never really bother to ask why the fares are expensive there.....

 

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[Merriem]

17.8 percent

The percentage of U.S. adults who smoke cigarettes was 17.8 percent in 2013, a drop from 20.9 percent in 2005, and the lowest rate of smoking since researchers began tracking this figure in 1965, according to the report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).Nov 26,

[luddite]

FYI

 

Yes. Tobacco smoke contains many chemicals that are harmful to both smokers and nonsmokers. Breathing even a little tobacco smoke can be harmful (1-4).

 

Of the more than 7,000 chemicals in tobacco smoke, at least 250 are known to be harmful, including hydrogen cyanide, carbon monoxide, and ammonia (1, 2, 5).

 

'Harmful' doesn't mean allergen.

[MJSailors]

My DH and I were on the 9/13 sailing of the Breakaway to Bermuda.

Let me first say that I am an asthmatic and I am sensitive to cigarette smoke.

My DH gave up smoking over 15 years ago ,in part, because of my asthma and the affect the smoking had on my health.

I agree with the OP about the smoke and residual smell of it .

I noticed this not only in the Atrium as the smoke from the open casino filtered into the other decks,but also in other areas of the ship.

There was a large smoking area in Spice H2O around the bar there and the comfortable seating area there.

Smoke was also notable on the Waterfront -Starboard side where smoking was permitted at bars there ,for example, Maltings outside bar.

We had a midship,starboard mini suite.

This location placed us a few decks above the Waterfront.

At times, I could smell smoke rising up from the Waterfront area.

We usually cruise Princess , where smoke and residual smells are not as noticeable as on the Breakaway.

Smoking areas on Princess

are confined to certain open deck areas and the casino does offer smoke free nights.

After our experience on the Breakaway,we realize that Princess is our favored cruise line,not only for their smoking policy but for other reasons regarding what appeals to us as active seniors who are not interested in rope courses,rock walls or Rock of Ages.

Princess fits our style of cruising, but different strokes for different folks!

[Golfin55]

You forgot to mention Disney Cruises and no the gambling on their ships - they gotta make money somehow since it missing one of the three money-making vices (smoking and drinking are the other two). Guess, some people never really bother to ask why the fares are expensive there.....

 

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You're 100% right. Good call.

[J&Bsail]

Do not have to worry about smoke in the casino on the Pride of America (POA) as it does not have a casino. :rolleyes:

[littlelulu01]

I think the amount of smoking largely depends on the demographic of your fellow cruisers. Our last HAL sailing, which btw still allows smoking on balconies, was by far the least noted smoking I've ever noted. I never saw anyone smoking in public areas and never smelt smoke. I saw one guy the entire sailing lite up a cigarette and it was at the back of the ship in a smoking area where the smoke blew right out the back so no smell.

 

Since the other lines prohibit smoking on balconies, smokers are forced to congregate in the few smoking areas dedicated for them,so if you pass by you'll definitely be around smoke. If you can't be around smoke you can find out where these areas are and just avoid them.

 

Europe sailings have more Europeans and more of them smoke so when in Europe and in many countries outside the us you will be around smoking. It may be your bus driver, the table next to you at a restaurant on a port stop.... Point being is that when traveling, especially in different countries you are going to be subjected to smoke. If you tell the waiter to make the people at the next table to stop smoking or your bus driver you will not be met with any sympathy.

 

Regarding your Hawaii they have strict anti smoking laws and as of January it's illegal to even smoke on a beach in Hawaii. West coast america is very anti smoking and so if your sailing is comprised of many Americans from west coast odds are very little smoking will be happening on board either. Now smoking occurs on beaches in Hawaii dispite the laws but good luck telling a group of local Hawaiians smoking on the beach that they are breaking the law and bothering you.

 

It's illegal in my state to smoke in public, within 25 feet of an entrance..... And if I really couldn't be around smoke I would stay right here in Washington state and never venture out of the us.

[Merriem]

My DH and I were on the 9/13 sailing of the Breakaway to Bermuda.

Let me first say that I am an asthmatic and I am sensitive to cigarette smoke.

My DH gave up smoking over 15 years ago ,in part, because of my asthma and the affect the smoking had on my health.

I agree with the OP about the smoke and residual smell of it .

I noticed this not only in the Atrium as the smoke from the open casino filtered into the other decks,but also in other areas of the ship.

There was a large smoking area in Spice H2O around the bar there and the comfortable seating area there.

Smoke was also notable on the Waterfront -Starboard side where smoking was permitted at bars there ,for example, Maltings outside bar.

We had a midship,starboard mini suite.

This location placed us a few decks above the Waterfront.

At times, I could smell smoke rising up from the Waterfront area.

We usually cruise Princess , where smoke and residual smells are not as noticeable as on the Breakaway.

Smoking areas on Princess

are confined to certain open deck areas and the casino does offer smoke free nights.

After our experience on the Breakaway,we realize that Princess is our favored cruise line,not only for their smoking policy but for other reasons regarding what appeals to us as active seniors who are not interested in rope courses,rock walls or Rock of Ages.

Princess fits our style of cruising, but different strokes for different folks!

 

The Breakaway really caters to a certain crowd. The smoke was terrible, and we were totally enjoying our Haven Owners suite. We do not smoke, nor drink a lot...but the cruise was pleasant as long as we did not go out. I was pretty sure that the customer on the Breakaway wasn't going to fly all the way to South America, but was curious. We had a nice trip, but think we will stay off the mega ships. Thanks for the comments.

[Merriem]

I think the amount of smoking largely depends on the demographic of your fellow cruisers. Our last HAL sailing, which btw still allows smoking on balconies, was by far the least noted smoking I've ever noted. I never saw anyone smoking in public areas and never smelt smoke. I saw one guy the entire sailing lite up a cigarette and it was at the back of the ship in a smoking area where the smoke blew right out the back so no smell.

 

Since the other lines prohibit smoking on balconies, smokers are forced to congregate in the few smoking areas dedicated for them,so if you pass by you'll definitely be around smoke. If you can't be around smoke you can find out where these areas are and just avoid them.

 

Europe sailings have more Europeans and more of them smoke so when in Europe and in many countries outside the us you will be around smoking. It may be your bus driver, the table next to you at a restaurant on a port stop.... Point being is that when traveling, especially in different countries you are going to be subjected to smoke. If you tell the waiter to make the people at the next table to stop smoking or your bus driver you will not be met with any sympathy.

 

Regarding your Hawaii they have strict anti smoking laws and as of January it's illegal to even smoke on a beach in Hawaii. West coast america is very anti smoking and so if your sailing is comprised of many Americans from west coast odds are very little smoking will be happening on board either. Now smoking occurs on beaches in Hawaii dispite the laws but good luck telling a group of local Hawaiians smoking on the beach that they are breaking the law and bothering you.

 

It's illegal in my state to smoke in public, within 25 feet of an entrance..... And if I really couldn't be around smoke I would stay right here in Washington state and never venture out of the us.

 

Totally agree. We are right next to you in Northern Idaho..very few smokers, and non that we know.

[littlelulu01]

Totally agree. We are right next to you in Northern Idaho..very few smokers, and non that we know.

 

Yes but go outside this summer and may as well be smoking a carton a day with all the fires this year!:)

[House_Atreides]

The Sun has 3 smoking areas:

 

Casino

Deck 11 port side in a corner right outside the gym

Deck 12 aft outside of the speciality eateries.

[luvtheships]

Carnival tried a totally non-smoking ship, but it didn't last too long

 

And how many years ago was that?

 

In the last 20 years things have changed....that most of us would never have thought possible.... ...smoke free cruising is small potatoes compared to everything else

 

It's coming....

 

 

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[littlelulu01]

And how many years ago was that?

 

In the last 20 years things have changed....that most of us would never have thought possible.... ...smoke free cruising is small potatoes compared to everything else

 

It's coming....

 

 

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I would venture to guess as long as cruise ships make $ from gambling and drinking there will also be venues for smoking. And now with the influx of Chinese travelers I think it's going to be a ways off before most lines consider banning smoking entirely. Sorry to say, going on a cruise and expecting not to encounter smoke is about as realistic as going to Vegas and expecting the same. Sure you can stay at the four seasons but unless you are sequestered there you will smell smoke at some point during a Vegas trip. I could see Disney trying it out in the future before any others but even disney hasn't gone there yet and they don't even have casinos and just recently curbed the byob policy.

 

Times are changing but the bottom dollar is what dictates smoking policy on cruise ships and casinos. The ban on balconies was not done for your health. The ship can't make more money on you unless you are off the balcony. If you want a decent sized balcony on the new ships you'll pay dearly to sit there vs the public areas where they have opportunity to make $.

[Hawk15]

We will be on our first NCL cruise on 10/13 on the Sun. About the only thing I am not looking forward to, is the smokey casino. Our last two cruises were on Celebrity, where smoking is not allowed at all indoors including the casino. As a non-smoker you get spoilt pretty fast on Celebrity.

[katiecat]

Times have changed as has attitude towards smoking. They said non smoking patios in California and Canada would not make it. Well look where we are today.

There was a lot of uproar here on CC about no smoking but it hasn't hurt NCL.[/quote

 

The cruise lines lose money from me I only need the cheapest cabin you got with beverage package preferably! I've got enough outside areas & bar tenders to enjoy my cruise in the fresh ocean air. I can't stand the smell of the casinos on any ship and I smoke but the ones that complain around you in your designated smoking area are in that casino every time.

[Ontime Departure]

The Breakaway really caters to a certain crowd. The smoke was terrible, and we were totally enjoying our Haven Owners suite. We do not smoke, nor drink a lot...but the cruise was pleasant as long as we did not go out. I was pretty sure that the customer on the Breakaway wasn't going to fly all the way to South America, but was curious. We had a nice trip, but think we will stay off the mega ships. Thanks for the comments.

 

Can you clarify what type of "crowd" the BA caters to? And you lost me on the flying to South America comment maybe you can clarify that also

 

Thanks

[bbryan5]

The smoke is only bad on the smaller ships if they catch fire :D

[Merriem]

Can you clarify what type of "crowd" the BA caters to? And you lost me on the flying to South America comment maybe you can clarify that also

 

Thanks

 

No problem. The Breakaway IMHO caters to the customer that wants to drink, smoke, and gamble. It is caters to people on the East coast as it is close to the port.. If this were a destination like South America you have a different passenger who is going to fly that far. Obviously they are most likely to be going for the destinations, as we have done twice before..once on NCL and once on Celebrity, and smoking was not an issue.

 

I agree with the poster about the non smoking casino on Celebrity. I like the slots, and more people play because it is non smoking.

 

 

 

 

If you smoke that is your choice. Please do not exhale.😷

[laurabegorrah]

Oh goodie - another smoking thread.....

[Ontime Departure]

No problem. The Breakaway IMHO caters to the customer that wants to drink, smoke, and gamble. It is caters to people on the East coast as it is close to the port.. If this were a destination like South America you have a different passenger who is going to fly that far. Obviously they are most likely to be going for the destinations, as we have done twice before..once on NCL and once on Celebrity, and smoking was not an issue.

 

I agree with the poster about the non smoking casino on Celebrity. I like the slots, and more people play because it is non smoking.

 

 

 

 

If you smoke that is your choice. Please do not exhale.[/quote

 

While I respect your opinion I think that you have painted over 4000 people with an extremely wide brush. While I'm sure that there will be people that wish to smoke, drink and gamble on board as there would be on any cruise regardless of departure point it is not a majority of the passengers on board, if it were the casino would be one extremely over crowded venue. I will agree that the location of the casino on the BA exacerbates the smoke issue. As a former smoker I did smell smoke while walking in areas around the casino but not enough to be bothered, although I can see how some people may find it worse than others

Edited October 1, 2015 by Ontime Departure

[k9x8]

I cruise for the destinations. We fly to Euorope to board the ship.

I smoke. My first two cruises were on Celebrity, the third with RCI before they banned smoking on balconies.

 

Yes, I enjoyed having a smoke on the balcony. The woman next door stuck her head around the partition as I was getting ready to light up my first smoke after embarking. She started coughing and hacking over an unlit cigaret. Some people "want" to smell smoke.

 

On RCI, I missed the fun and camaraderie of the smoking areas I enjoyed on Celebrity.