gskimmel Posted October 25, 2015 #1 Share Posted October 25, 2015 We are booked on a 10-night Baltics cruise that will spend 3 days in St Petersburg (June 2016). When we booked, my husband was hesitant to go because of all the anti-gay laws/attitude in Russia. However, I convinced him after reading through everyone's past experiences here that we'd be fine. I thought this issue was settled but now a Russian lawmaker is proposing to make it illegal to come out. Now we are questioning if we should still go on the Baltics cruise or if we should cancel and find something else. What would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirman52 Posted October 25, 2015 #2 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Go ! You can find the same hate here in the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted October 25, 2015 #3 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Yes, but you won't be arrested. That said, if you go just don't show affection or do anything two straight men wouldn't do. I've been twice and St. Petersburg is a stunning city but that was before the current wave of h homophobia. Now I wouldn't spend one red cent (pun intended) there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv24 Posted October 25, 2015 #4 Share Posted October 25, 2015 We just had this conversation today with our Danish friend who was urging us to go because of the incredible architecture and art. I'm sure you will be safe if you are reasonably discreet. But I am of two minds about my own travel there and support of a particularly homophobic city government and culture. Maybe someday, but only for the architecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K&JfromPDX Posted October 25, 2015 #5 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Hi, our ship stayed overnight at St. Petersburg a few years back, so we had 2 days of tours and sight-seeing. Catherine's Palace, the Winter Palace, Peter and Paul Fortress, the Church of the Savior on Blood are incredible. I would visit again, and I urge you to choose to go as well. True, Russia is not friendly to us, but unless you are making out on the street, who will know. It's the same in many places in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gskimmel Posted October 26, 2015 Author #6 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I think we will still go. We will be in a tour group comprised of cruise critic roll call members so we should be fine. Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted October 26, 2015 #7 Share Posted October 26, 2015 I have no doubt you will be fine. As long as you don't mind supporting a homophobic society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BentleyOnBoard Posted October 28, 2015 #8 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Don't miss it! St Petersberg is one of the most beautiful cities in the world. We were there on Oceania in August. I would return again when I can. Just be on a tour, however I would recommend a private one, so much more efficient and effective to maximize what you can see while you are there. It is as if Peter the Great merged Paris with Venice. Amazing! Yes it is Russia, but you only live once and we never know if relations will get better or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnatello Posted October 29, 2015 #9 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Absolutely......go!!!!! We were in St Petersburg as part of a Baltic cruise twice and we did a river cruise St Petersburg to Moscow. Truly a wonderful and amazing trip. The govt might not be pro-gay, but the "regular folk" were friendly, accommodating, and added to a most enjoyable trip. The art, architecture, history and culture is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyjguy Posted October 30, 2015 #10 Share Posted October 30, 2015 I hardly think that taking a $100 day tour in Russia is supporting a homophobic country; that kind of support is generated by corporations and governments not travelers. We too highly recommend you take the cruise and enjoy an incredible city. We found our tour guide very informative, understanding of our cultural differences, and reached out to help us all enjoy the tour. I think that it is important to remember that all the Russian people you will interact with on your visit are not the government that has extreme views, but rather they are just average working people trying to make ends meet. On our tour and on free time we were served by several gay workers in shops and bars and we left a little extra tips along with a wink. Just keep political views out of sight and no problems will be experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonarSonarSonar Posted October 31, 2015 #11 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I refuse to live my life in fear. Hogwash.....your going is hardly supportive of anything. Leave the support issues between governments. Go for those that live there and would love to see you show up in support of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wripro Posted October 31, 2015 #12 Share Posted October 31, 2015 What about supporting your fellow gays who live there and are unable to live their lives as freely as you are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyy7 Posted November 1, 2015 #13 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Me and my husband are booked on a Baltic cruise next summer. We stop for 2 days in StPete and will be taking a private tour with friends who are also going. I'm not concerned at all about our safety. I'm looking forward to seeing all the wonderful history and architecture esp the Hermitage. Not all people share the views of the their govt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yyjguy Posted November 2, 2015 #14 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Cruise ships almost never sail with empty cabins. If you choose not to sail on a voyage, that cabin will be bought by someone else. Your not sailing will have absolutely no effect on the country, city or port. All you would have done is deny yourself a chance to see one of the great cities of the world. I do not see how not sailing would in any measureable way support our brothers and sisters in St Petersburg, and on the contrary, perhaps you going ashore there could give support to locals, either through contributing to their earnings or moral support in knowing things could be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEBOY305 Posted November 27, 2015 #15 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Cruise ships almost never sail with empty cabins. If you choose not to sail on a voyage, that cabin will be bought by someone else. Your not sailing will have absolutely no effect on the country, city or port. All you would have done is deny yourself a chance to see one of the great cities of the world. I do not see how not sailing would in any measureable way support our brothers and sisters in St Petersburg, and on the contrary, perhaps you going ashore there could give support to locals, either through contributing to their earnings or moral support in knowing things could be better. couldn't agree more :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phxazzcruisers Posted November 28, 2015 #16 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Go !!! We love St Petersburg. The people are incredibly friendly and it is a beautiful City. Do not miss it. Enjoy your cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruzngrl Posted December 12, 2015 #17 Share Posted December 12, 2015 My wife and I were there in August and St. Petersburg is not to be missed. We actually felt very safe there and hired a private guide. People were very friendly and it is a beautiful city!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossoverstreet Posted January 12, 2016 #18 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Definitely go. St Petersburg is a wonderful place to spend a few days. The architectural sites are incredible. Try to see both the Catharine Palace and Peterhof (probably over two days). My partner and I spent a week there a few years ago. Consider hiring the professional guide we worked with. He has the required documentation and credentials to take tourists through all of the sites including the Hermitage. He's very well informed, well travelled and speaks excellent English. http://www.gay-tour.ru And, he's gay and out (rare for Russia). Have a great trip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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