Can't bring soda on board anymore

[luvtheships]

I can just see it now, port workers clocking off and opening a local 'soft drinks and swiss army knife' stores on every corner.

 

 

 

Relax, and don't like sugar water destroy your vacations.

 

 

 

There is plenty of hydration opportunities available on the ship. There won't be any spike in infirmary admissions. Have water with tea, herbal tea, with cordial, in a filter bottle, with ice, in lemonade or my favourite way in a frozen pina colada.

 

 

 

I paid $12 for a can of diet coke the other day in France, I didn't give the bar owner a lecture about the wholesale cost of his product nor did I ask him to lug a pre-purchased 24 pack of the drink next to my table for me.

 

 

You didn't have to buy that water....you could have walked elsewhere or bought it for cheaper in a grocery store

 

 

Cruisers are a captive audience

[backsbanny]

Everybody must stop paying DSC...Tip the crew in cash so that mr Del Feeo loses some revenue money because all this DSC goes to revenue

[luvtheships]

What did they say when you threatened to cancel?

 

 

And where did I say I was calling to cancel?

 

I used the word..."would"....which suggests giving advice

 

If I said..."I am"....well then asking what my results were would be a valid question. You really need to read posts better.

 

Just because I understand what it takes to get something to go your way....doesn't mean it applies to me....

 

 

I'm suggesting to cruisers that feel strongly enough about the water issue that they have many avenues at their disposal that give them leverage

Edited July 2, 2016 by luvtheships

[luvtheships]

Everybody must stop paying DSC...Tip the crew in cash so that mr Del Feeo loses some revenue money because all this DSC goes to revenue

 

 

Yes this is another excellent negotiating method

 

Btw...Arizona.....just because I recognize this doesn't mean I do it....but I do know it will get Ncls attention.

 

A perfect tactic would be to reduce dsc by exactly what they charge you for water....and tell Ncl why you are choosing this amount

Edited July 2, 2016 by luvtheships

[luvtheships]

There is no DSC associated with the UBP. Wrong terminology.

 

 

Ok no biggie....just change dsc to 18%

 

But you knew what I meant you just wanted to make a point. Lol

Edited July 2, 2016 by luvtheships

[NLH Arizona]

And where did I say I was calling to cancel?

 

Just because I understand what it takes to get something to go your way....doesn't mean it applies to me

 

 

I'm suggesting to cruisers that feel strongly enough about the water issue that they have many avenues at their disposal that give them leverage

You are telling everyone else to call and threaten, just thought you would be doing the same thing in solidarity, especially since you have said you are an excellent negotiator. Just thinking that since you are an excellent negotiator, you could be helpful to the cause.

[NLH Arizona]

 

A perfect tactic would be to reduce dsc by exactly what they charge you for water....and tell Ncl why you are choosing this amount

Did this tactic work when folks reduced the DSC the amount of the 18% gratuities for specialty dining or room service charge or did the tactic of threatening to cancel cruises work? Basically, IMHO, the only tactic that will get their attention is to actually cancel reservations....walk the walk, if one is going to talk the talk. Edited July 2, 2016 by NLH Arizona

[SwissLe]

You didn't have to buy that water....you could have walked elsewhere or bought it for cheaper in a grocery store

 

 

Cruisers are a captive audience

 

There were two bars in the town, the exact same prices. Captive, and accepted by all attendees. I could've driven to the next town and sat in the car park of Carrefour with my 50cent can of coke but that's not my thing.

[ColinIllinois]

Ok no biggie....just change dsc to 18%

 

But you knew what I meant you just wanted to make a point. Lol

 

 

I knew what you meant, just don't want newbies to be confused. Lord knows, there is enough of that around here. ;)

[Feelin' Nauti']

Jis it REALLY going to be the end of the world if you have to pay for some drinks?

We Americans don't like being ripped off or taken advantage of.

We don't mind paying a little bit for water,

but the inflated price of over $5 bottle of water that NCL charges is considered Gouging in the USA.

[Sissaaaaaa]

I'm pretty sure half the people on this thread don't even sail Norwegian LOL

[luvtheships]

You are telling everyone else to call and threaten, just thought you would be doing the same thing in solidarity, especially since you have said you are an excellent negotiator. Just thinking that since you are an excellent negotiator, you could be helpful to the cause.

 

 

I already used my certs....and have cruises booked ....that I may or may not cancel for reasons totally apart from the water thing

 

So I personally dont have the leverage right now...plus I'll pay the $48 for water if I want....

 

But since I fully understand some

cruisers issues with this ....I am fully capable of seeing their side of the coin....

 

Because seeing both sides of any picture is a good thing isn't it?

 

Being totally one sided and refusing to acknowledge the other point of view is where the trouble begins....but I digress

 

Honestly though I think the reducing the dsc is a much better tactic

 

Oh and dont start about the engine room coal shovelers .....Ncl counts on us to be mamby pamby bleeding hearts...remember that

 

Ncl needs to know their pax are upset with their methods

Edited July 2, 2016 by luvtheships

[Swells1]

Just seen this, is it REALLY going to be the end of the world if you have to pay for some drinks?

 

I don't mind paying for Coke. I hate Pepsi SO hard...

[luvtheships]

I'm pretty sure half the people on this thread don't even sail Norwegian LOL

 

 

Probably for good reason

 

 

I'm looking to celebrity for the future primarily for the non smoking casino.

[NLH Arizona]

We Americans don't like being ripped off or taken advantage of.

We don't mind paying a little bit for water' date='

but the inflated price of over $5 bottle of water that NCL charges is considered Gouging in the USA. [/size']

But it happens everywhere. I think Disneyland sells a 15 ounce bottle of water for $2.79, which would equate to over $5.50 for a liter of water.

[RDC1]

And these safety concerns weren't there prior to July 15, 2016?

 

Give me a break, dude.

 

I was not talking about this particular case with NCL, only that the security issues with plastic bottles is because they can be refilled and closed. The person that I initially responded to said that they could do more damage with a glass then with a water bottle. Thus the statement giving the reason why they were not correct.

 

But since people have brought it up:

 

As far as wine bottles each cruise line I have been one check each bottle and make sure the seal is intact. As far as shampoo bottles the volume is rather small.

 

The good thing about ships is that a small volume of something to do real damage would have to be large, unlike an aircraft. Thus not the need to limit liquids and pastes to 6 ounces. About 20-25 years ago there was an Asian terrorist group that tried to bomb planes by putting explosives into toothpaste tubes. Actually caused one explosion on a plane, but did not bring it down. The need to put liquids and pastes into a clear baggie and the 5 ounce limit started around that event.

 

The issue of liquids can be a real security issue. As far as the NCL case don't have the details as to their motivations. Could just as easily a case of not wanting to deal with the additional luggage, the items carried through security, increased trash, etc. Most of which do come done to money, but in the way of reducing expense and labor.

[MissJessicaB]

But it happens everywhere. I think Disneyland sells a 15 ounce bottle of water for $2.79, which would equate to over $5.50 for a liter of water.

 

This is true but then again you spent maybe 8 hours at Disneyland. I'm spending two weeks on the Breakaway later this year and so the inflated prices add up to be quite prohibitive after a while.

[ColinIllinois]

Oh good grief :rolleyes:

 

 

Are you wagging your finger at me while you are rolling your eyes?

[Hunwolf]

End of the world, of course not. We usually cruise Celebrity where cans of soda and bottled water are included in their free drink package. NCL already have a crap free drink program as it includes neither, they charge you the 18% on a highly inflated drink package price and now highly inflated prices on Soda and Water which I drink a lot of. Will it break me? Of course not. But there's no incentive to cruise NCL over Celebrity so we'll pick a Celebrity cruise instead.

 

 

This is the part I don't understand. Celebrity has shown great flexibility in offering packages that appeal to multiple groups and it's been a successful business model. If you're going to go down this route at least provide options for packages that include bottle water and other non-alcoholic beverages. Otherwise this is nothing more than a cash grab and using the current terrorist issues as an excuse is probably about as low as it gets.

 

 

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[Frick_&_Frack]

The issue of liquids can be a real security issue. As far as the NCL case don't have the details as to their motivations. Could just as easily a case of not wanting to deal with the additional luggage, the items carried through security, increased trash, etc. Most of which do come done to money, but in the way of reducing expense and labor.

 

Per NCL yesterday (when they called me about this/my e-mail on it), it is being done due to the screening of the water/soda to get it aboard being too lengthy to do. So, not so much for "security" but just to "keep those lines moving".

 

It will be interesting what will happen in the naughty room though (in the beginning of this at least). And, yes, I mentioned that they had better plan on a bigger room since there will be issues (at least at first). LOL

[NLH Arizona]

This is true but then again you spent maybe 8 hours at Disneyland. I'm spending two weeks on the Breakaway later this year and so the inflated prices add up to be quite prohibitive after a while.

My point was to the poster that there is "gouging" everywhere here in the United States, not just on cruise ships. To me, it doesn't matter if you are somewhere for 5 minutes or 1 month, if $5 for a bottle of water is gouging on NCL, it is gouging at Disneyland, as they are both making a huge profit from selling the water at that price.

 

As I have said, I think the solution is to greatly reduce the cost of water on the ships and to charge passengers the equivalent of what they would pay on the ships for soda brought on board.

Edited July 2, 2016 by NLH Arizona

[shecky4185]

I'm going on the Breakaway in a few weeks and this will be my second cruise with NCL, the first time I went a few years ago with family who brought gatorade on board...does anyone know if this or another type of sports/vitamin water type of drink is sold on board? Lots of mention of sodas and juices, but not this.

Thanks!

[Hunwolf]

Personally I'm a Mountain Dew addict so that's a plus for NCL. But I 100% side with those upset with this. To me it's not as much the policy as all the backstory to it:

 

1. Using security as a crutch

2. Not offering alternatives at a halfway decent price

 

Just come out and say "to further improve our bottom line, as of July 15th...."

 

 

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[MissJessicaB]

My point was to the poster that there is "gouging" everywhere here in the United States, not just on cruise ships. To me, it doesn't matter if you are somewhere for 5 minutes or 1 month, if $5 for a bottle of water is gouging on NCL, it is gouging at Disneyland, as they are both making a huge profit from selling the water at that price.

I totaly agree. I detest getting gouged just because I'm a captive audience whether it's one day or 14. But for one day, I can live with it even if I'm not happy.

 

I don't have too much skin in the game, because I'll be drinking fountain soda and frozen alcoholic drinks to be fair. I'm not cancelling. But if we have fun next month on the Anthem, then I could be come a Royal Caribbean girl instead of an NCL one in future.

[Sissaaaaaa]

Probably for good reason

 

 

I'm looking to celebrity for the future primarily for the non smoking casino.

 

I am very much looking forward to trying Celebrity in a couple of years. The non-smoking casino will be wonderful!