Which Rule(s)/Practice(s) would you like to see changed on your Carnival Cruise

[Domino D]

Thanks for confirming my point about smoking. That regardless of rather they should or rather they will change the rule. If they want to they can.

 

 

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Oh for sure, they can change that policy anytime they want. It's not a coincidence that the casino still allows smoking.

[mz-s]

I would like to see Carnival allow vaping anywhere. I already do it, but I palm it and hold in the vapor so it isn't noticeable when I exhale. I'd just like to be able to openly vape in the karaoke lounge and non-smoking casino tables.

 

Other than that, I'm good.

[MisterZippy]

Whereas I agree with many of the posts regarding shorts in the main dining room, we cannot mandate class although we can clearly recognize the lack thereof. My wife and I (both retired Master Sergeants from the USAF) enjoy playing "dress-up" from our mess-dress wearing events, so the formal nights for us are FORMAL (me in my tux, her in a gown), but we realize that others don't have our backgrounds. Yes, it annoys us that some flagrantly disregard the rules and don't think twice about it, but they are the ones receiving the negative looks and comments whereas we are the ones others want to meet. Of course, it is necessary to remember that Carnival is to cruising what Holiday Inn is to motels: you're not going to get the Hilton type of people on Carnival, and you should expect the rude, crude, drunk and obnoxious.....but there are plenty of places where you can avoid them.

[Domino D]

Whereas I agree with many of the posts regarding shorts in the main dining room, we cannot mandate class although we can clearly recognize the lack thereof. My wife and I (both retired Master Sergeants from the USAF) enjoy playing "dress-up" from our mess-dress wearing events, so the formal nights for us are FORMAL (me in my tux, her in a gown), but we realize that others don't have our backgrounds. Yes, it annoys us that some flagrantly disregard the rules and don't think twice about it, but they are the ones receiving the negative looks and comments whereas we are the ones others want to meet. Of course, it is necessary to remember that Carnival is to cruising what Holiday Inn is to motels: you're not going to get the Hilton type of people on Carnival, and you should expect the rude, crude, drunk and obnoxious.....but there are plenty of places where you can avoid them.

 

Would you agree that it is Carnivals responsibility to enforce the dress code?

 

The reality is, regardless of why people choose to show up in attire not in line with the dress code, the problem is fixed if the Host staff simply explain the policy, and direct them to the other dining locations. I think Carnival is moving towards a more casual oriented experience. This is a solid economic decision given changes in cultural norms. I truly feel bad for people who love the traditional cruise experience, and want to stick with Carnival.

 

I think it is an inexact parallel to equate that all people in shorts lack class. In fact on our last cruise, which was to Alaska on RCCL, a gentleman in a tux was so drunk he fell onto a table full of food in the dining room, and then threw up in front of the elevators.

 

Oh, and Hilton will let you in their restaurants in shorts.

[Yvonne]

Whereas I agree with many of the posts regarding shorts in the main dining room, we cannot mandate class although we can clearly recognize the lack thereof. My wife and I (both retired Master Sergeants from the USAF) enjoy playing "dress-up" from our mess-dress wearing events, so the formal nights for us are FORMAL (me in my tux, her in a gown), but we realize that others don't have our backgrounds. Yes, it annoys us that some flagrantly disregard the rules and don't think twice about it, but they are the ones receiving the negative looks and comments whereas we are the ones others want to meet. Of course, it is necessary to remember that Carnival is to cruising what Holiday Inn is to motels: you're not going to get the Hilton type of people on Carnival, and you should expect the rude, crude, drunk and obnoxious.....but there are plenty of places where you can avoid them.

 

Wow. Just...wow.

 

Oh, and be careful if it rains. You might drown.

[MikeACY]

man...talk about a serious topic gone bad.

the back and forth..the finger pointing.....felt like I was watching C-SPAN.

[First and Ten]

Would you agree that it is Carnivals responsibility to enforce the dress code?

 

The reality is, regardless of why people choose to show up in attire not in line with the dress code, the problem is fixed if the Host staff simply explain the policy, and direct them to the other dining locations. I think Carnival is moving towards a more casual oriented experience. This is a solid economic decision given changes in cultural norms. I truly feel bad for people who love the traditional cruise experience, and want to stick with Carnival.

 

I think it is an inexact parallel to equate that all people in shorts lack class. In fact on our last cruise, which was to Alaska on RCCL, a gentleman in a tux was so drunk he fell onto a table full of food in the dining room, and then threw up in front of the elevators.

 

Oh, and Hilton will let you in their restaurants in shorts.

 

I will agree with you that it is up to Carnival to enforce the dress code. My only issue, and I have seen it on at least 2 occasions, where the MD or staff tried to enforce it, people actually got belligerent. I have heard first hand the passenger use the line of "It is my vacation and I will wear what I want to wear". Concerning your point about being more casual, I think Carnival as well as other major cruise lines have followed that trend. For example, on a 7 night cruise, you have 2 Elegant/Formal nights. That means 5 nights are Casual. Is that unreasonable? Lets also be fair, Elegant night is not a tux or even a suit/tie, its basically a collared shirt and a pair of slacks. My issue is with the "entitled" mindset, they will buck the trend simply to do so....simple, 2 nights on your cruise, put on a pair of pants. Carnival even gives you options. If you don't want to wear pants, no problem, on these 2 nights go to the Lido deck for dinner or order room service. Carnival is not saying you cannot eat if you don't wear long pants. So I will ask, why do people feel the need to buck the trend and not fall in line....Is there some perverse enjoyment to rock the boat and be a PITA?

Edited September 13, 2016 by First and Ten

[Domino D]

So I will ask, why do people feel the need to buck the trend and not fall in line....Is there some perverse enjoyment to rock the boat and be a PITA?

 

Ten,

I think we are agreeing. I think the dress code is more than a fair compromise. People who do not ever want to see someone in shorts in the dining room, are going to need to understand that is the direction Carnival is currently going. On formal nights, the dress code needs to be enforced, regardless of guest temperament. I've seen Carnival employees interact with other unhappy guests, so it is certainly within their skill set.

 

People buck the trend because society has been conditioned to believe it is their responsibility to question authority. The vast majority of people follow the rules that line up with their personal beliefs and disregard the others as silly or overly restrictive. Few people will not take as much advantage as they can. I have been the guy at the door enforcing dress code, it is not that hard, but you need support all the way up the chain. When people complained that we did not let them in the lounge because they were wearing sport shoes (sneakers) they got a letter from the corporate office stating the dress code. Not an apology. If they are skilled at their position, they should not even care if someone is belligerent. Rule 1 Understand why they are angry. Rule 2 Never negotiate. Rule 3 Do not apologize for enforcing a policy. Rule 4 It isn't personal. Rule 5 If you can't keep calm and polite, get another job.

[Like81]

So I will ask, why do people feel the need to buck the trend and not fall in line....Is there some perverse enjoyment to rock the boat and be a PITA?

 

There's a difference between being a PITA and wearing a different shirt. I got off the Paradise yesterday, and on formal night one of our tablemates was refused entry into the dining room because he was wearing a sleeveless T shirt. He had never cruised before and had no idea what the protocol was, but they asked him to go change. So apparently they do enforce something!

 

Also on the final night there was a "kid" (I'd guess 22-ish) in the casino in his bathrobe. He was betting big, very big on roulette. He was also drunk as heck and clearly on a few...umm..other substances.... at the time. Multiple times he bet well over $100 on a spin. They didn't care, they told him to either go put on clothes or he's be escorted back to his room. So again, I applaud that!

 

On the smoking issue, it's just so pervasive. When we stepped on the ship my girlfriend stopped and said "Oh my god, they allow smoking in this entire ship??" It smells that much throughout the entire common area that it's instant when you walk on board, even if you're nowhere near a smoking area. Yuk.

Edited September 13, 2016 by Like81

[First and Ten]

There's a difference between being a PITA and wearing a different shirt. I got off the Paradise yesterday, and on formal night one of our tablemates was refused entry into the dining room because he was wearing a sleeveless T shirt. He had never cruised before and had no idea what the protocol was, but they asked him to go change. So apparently they do enforce something!

 

Also on the final night there was a "kid" (I'd guess 22-ish) in the casino in his bathrobe. He was betting big, very big on roulette. He was also drunk as heck and clearly on a few...umm..other substances.... at the time. Multiple times he bet well over $100 on a spin. They didn't care, they told him to either go put on clothes or he's be escorted back to his room. So again, I applaud that!

 

On the smoking issue, it's just so pervasive. When we stepped on the ship my girlfriend stopped and said "Oh my god, they allow smoking in this entire ship??" It smells that much throughout the entire common area that it's instant when you walk on board, even if you're nowhere near a smoking area. Yuk.

 

Perfect scenario that you played out....new cruiser that wasn't familiar, MD requests he change, he goes back to the room and changes....WIN-WIN....My issue is the guy who makes a big deal about it, or tries to "sneak" in...."oh goodie, I broke the rules" (giggle, giggle). We are adults here, pretty safe bet we all own at least one pair of suit pants/dockers.....Put them on and stop being a putz (on Elegant nights)....Don't wear gym shorts and tank tops on casual night....it really isn't a hard concept, yet chuckleheads seem to want to do it

Edited September 13, 2016 by First and Ten