pnwliane Posted September 23 #1151 Share Posted September 23 20 hours ago, moonriver54 said: You'll be our eyes and ears for the Lower Danube. I've seen virtually nothing mentioned about Lower Danube flooding here on CruiseCritic. We're departing Bucharest headed west to Budapest aboard the Avalon Passion on 12 October. Moonriver54: We'll be on that 12 October Avalon Passion sailing with you! Like you, we've been watching for news about the Lower Danube. It sounds like the next few days will be telling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hudson Co. Landlubber Posted September 23 #1152 Share Posted September 23 31 minutes ago, Kenster said: That doesn’t make any sense! Bused all the way from Nuremberg to Budapest?? Calls for a wee bit of elaboration. From another poster, different thread, same journey, same forum: "We're driving 10-13 hours today from Nuremberg to Budaest compliments of Scenic Luxury Cruiseline. No water offered on bus, no food, no 'welcome glass of champagne.' We were told this morning bring food and drinks. We'll have two stops at rest areas, one 30 mins another 45 mins. One couple canceled cruise when they learned the terms this morning. Another couple decided to make their own way to Budapest (very smart). Train ride is 38 euros, 7 hours. Plane would have been a couple 100 and less than 2 hours. One day of cruising gone. Very sloppy, negligent planning and total lack of planning logistics. We have 7-8 hours to Vienna, change busses, then another 2-3 to Budapest. Needless to say a lot of unhappy campers. My mom and I are still waiting for the 'luxury' part to kick in. Feels more like school camping trips. Scenic did say they would give us all 35 euros cash to cover our breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Sooooo generous. Whoever the GM is, Starr thinking outside the box, give folks options. I'm confident every single one of us would have chosen plane or train transit. You're not responsible for the flooding conditions but you are responsible for living up to your name." 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpypharm Posted September 23 #1153 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, hermione8181 said: Which ship? Viking Tor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonriver54 Posted September 23 #1154 Share Posted September 23 25 minutes ago, pnwliane said: Moonriver54: We'll be on that 12 October Avalon Passion sailing with you! Like you, we've been watching for news about the Lower Danube. It sounds like the next few days will be telling. Barring too much rain between now and 12 OCT I think we'll probably be fine. When we booked an October Danube cruise my biggest concern was LOW water. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenster Posted September 23 #1155 Share Posted September 23 25 minutes ago, The Hudson Co. Landlubber said: From another poster, different thread, same journey, same forum: "We're driving 10-13 hours today from Nuremberg to Budaest compliments of Scenic Luxury Cruiseline. No water offered on bus, no food, no 'welcome glass of champagne.' We were told this morning bring food and drinks. We'll have two stops at rest areas, one 30 mins another 45 mins. One couple canceled cruise when they learned the terms this morning. Another couple decided to make their own way to Budapest (very smart). Train ride is 38 euros, 7 hours. Plane would have been a couple 100 and less than 2 hours. One day of cruising gone. Very sloppy, negligent planning and total lack of planning logistics. We have 7-8 hours to Vienna, change busses, then another 2-3 to Budapest. Needless to say a lot of unhappy campers. My mom and I are still waiting for the 'luxury' part to kick in. Feels more like school camping trips. Scenic did say they would give us all 35 euros cash to cover our breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Sooooo generous. Whoever the GM is, Starr thinking outside the box, give folks options. I'm confident every single one of us would have chosen plane or train transit. You're not responsible for the flooding conditions but you are responsible for living up to your name." How can you skip the entire itinerary from Nuremberg to Budapest and say you only list one day of cruising? That’s usually a week long cruise. I didn’t think any line could be worse than Viking during irregular ops… now I’m not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermione8181 Posted September 23 #1156 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, notamermaid said: Now there are five in Tulln: notamermaid Figured this out a little. Yes, Viking does usually brief stop there. While passengers are on their Krems excursion the ship moves there and the passengers reboard there. So not unknown to Viking. looks like a few ships sailed out of Budapest tonight. Still ….we all wait on the one lock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hudson Co. Landlubber Posted September 23 #1157 Share Posted September 23 15 minutes ago, Kenster said: How can you skip the entire itinerary from Nuremberg to Budapest and say you only list one day of cruising? That’s usually a week long cruise. I didn’t think any line could be worse than Viking during irregular ops… now I’m not so sure. My guess is they reversed the itinerary since the equipment could not be moved yet because of the broken loch? But I am just guessing. I will try and monitor that group for more info, but I leave for my own journey tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermione8181 Posted September 23 #1158 Share Posted September 23 1 minute ago, The Hudson Co. Landlubber said: My guess is they reversed the itinerary since the equipment could not be moved yet because of the broken loch? But I am just guessing. I will try and monitor that group for more info, but I leave for my own journey tomorrow. I looked quick and scenic has a 10 day Budapest to Nuremberg itinerary and a 15 day amsterdam to Budapest…..that’s it…oh and a Prague one. So that all seems pretty odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted September 23 Author #1159 Share Posted September 23 4 minutes ago, The Hudson Co. Landlubber said: but I leave for my own journey tomorrow. Have a good trip. I hope all works out to your satisfaction and you can very much enjoy the Danube and the ship. notamermaid 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted September 23 Author #1160 Share Posted September 23 Brief info on Greifenstein. It is a lock and weir/dam that is a run-of-the-river hydro-electrical power plant. I have no info what the damage is. The power plant was taken off the grid during flooding and the weir opened to let the water run through untamed, so to speak. So it produced no electricity. It is partly back. No idea if there is a connection with the lock being repaired. Note that locking on the German and joint Danube may be delayed as well, as one chamber at Kachlet and and one chamber at Jochenstein are out of order. Official info on Jochenstein: notamermaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermione8181 Posted September 23 #1161 Share Posted September 23 3 minutes ago, notamermaid said: Brief info on Greifenstein. It is a lock and weir/dam that is a run-of-the-river hydro-electrical power plant. I have no info what the damage is. The power plant was taken off the grid during flooding and the weir opened to let the water run through untamed, so to speak. So it produced no electricity. It is partly back. No idea if there is a connection with the lock being repaired. Note that locking on the German and joint Danube may be delayed as well, as one chamber at Kachlet and and one chamber at Jochenstein are out of order. Official info on Jochenstein: notamermaid This matches what one poster said about the lock ‘having no electricity.’ Technically….true lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted September 23 Author #1162 Share Posted September 23 2 hours ago, NewB2Cruise said: I'm hearing about changes in plans, switching ships and altered itinerary and I'm wondering if this situation is still going on or have there been improvements. Welcome to Cruisecritic. As you have read from a previous poster, there have been improvements. Budapest should have its lower embankment (the river cruise ship docks) back by tomorrow afternoon. notamermaid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewB2Cruise Posted September 23 #1163 Share Posted September 23 3 minutes ago, notamermaid said: Welcome to Cruisecritic. As you have read from a previous poster, there have been improvements. Budapest should have its lower embankment (the river cruise ship docks) back by tomorrow afternoon. notamermaid Excellent news? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ural guy Posted September 23 #1164 Share Posted September 23 1 hour ago, The Hudson Co. Landlubber said: From another poster, different thread, same journey, same forum: "We're driving 10-13 hours today from Nuremberg to Budaest compliments of Scenic Luxury Cruiseline. No water offered on bus, no food, no 'welcome glass of champagne.' We were told this morning bring food and drinks. We'll have two stops at rest areas, one 30 mins another 45 mins. One couple canceled cruise when they learned the terms this morning. Another couple decided to make their own way to Budapest (very smart). Train ride is 38 euros, 7 hours. Plane would have been a couple 100 and less than 2 hours. One day of cruising gone. Very sloppy, negligent planning and total lack of planning logistics. We have 7-8 hours to Vienna, change busses, then another 2-3 to Budapest. Needless to say a lot of unhappy campers. My mom and I are still waiting for the 'luxury' part to kick in. Feels more like school camping trips. Scenic did say they would give us all 35 euros cash to cover our breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Sooooo generous. Whoever the GM is, Starr thinking outside the box, give folks options. I'm confident every single one of us would have chosen plane or train transit. You're not responsible for the flooding conditions but you are responsible for living up to your name." That is really bad sounding. I can see needing to stop to swap out drivers due to maximum driving time allowed, but to have to swap out the bus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaCruiser72 Posted September 23 #1165 Share Posted September 23 35 minutes ago, ural guy said: That is really bad sounding. I can see needing to stop to swap out drivers due to maximum driving time allowed, but to have to swap out the bus? As they are going from Germany, through Austria, and onto Hungary it is possible that the transport company coming from Nuremberg may not employ any drivers in Austria, or even have a corporate presence in Austria. It could also be that, as I have often seen, the busses belong to the drivers who then do contract work for various companies and perhaps the driver on the first leg only agreed to go as far as Vienna or can only legally drive so many hours in a day. Too many variables to give an exact answer, but obviously there is a reason for the bus swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted September 23 Author #1166 Share Posted September 23 Cruisecritic article: https://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/news/danube-cruises-impacted-by-european-floods-river-cruise-lines-amend-itineraries?stay=1&posfrom=1 notamermaid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hudson Co. Landlubber Posted September 23 #1167 Share Posted September 23 4 hours ago, notamermaid said: Have a good trip. I hope all works out to your satisfaction and you can very much enjoy the Danube and the ship. notamermaid You are very kind! We will attempt to do that and roll with it. Although I will do almost anything to avoid 12 hours on a bus! Hopefully will still make our tickets for "The Marriage Of Figaro" at the Vienna Opera House and end up meeting German friends at Oktoberfest after the cruise ends. It'll be great. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted September 24 Author #1168 Share Posted September 24 Good news! For the record: But the details for the locks: Locking is possible but will potentially still be delayed on your journey. notamermaid 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermione8181 Posted September 24 #1169 Share Posted September 24 Egil heads thru tonight….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpypharm Posted September 24 #1170 Share Posted September 24 (edited) We got bussed from Tulln to Vienna today for our excursion. The boat was supposed to meet us there but there are 12 ships trying to get through the lock so we are bussing back to Tulln and will (hopefully) wake up in Vienna tomorrow. Viking has made the best out of a situation they don't have any control over. Happy that a ship change wasn't necessary because we've grown accustomed to the staff, who have been wonderful. Edited September 24 by grumpypharm 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted September 24 Author #1171 Share Posted September 24 35 minutes ago, grumpypharm said: The boat was supposed to meet us there but there are 12 ships trying to get through the lock so we are bussing back to Tulln and will (hopefully) wake up in Vienna tomorrow. The authorities write that one locking process takes 25 minutes. It will certainly take some time to clear the backlog with only one chamber being operable. notamermaid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmomCoco Posted September 25 #1172 Share Posted September 25 Any updates on the lower Danube? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted September 25 Author #1173 Share Posted September 25 1 hour ago, GmomCoco said: Any updates on the lower Danube? Welcome to Cruisecritic. It is difficult to establish for me in detail what is happening on the Lower Danube. I see that river traffic has been running out of Novi Sad today. The Excellence Empress has been sailing in the area so things are looking okay: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:19.3/centery:45.4/zoom:11 Novi Sad is on flood warning level one and rising. It will peak on 27 September most likely. The river will be very high but stay under the level of 2013. I cannot establish if a river traffic ban is likely. Flood warning level two is unlikely to be reached. I have mentioned before that the river in Romania was on a relative low. That is also true for Serbia. For context, this is Bezdan in Serbia: It would be great to have more information from those sailing in the area. notamermaid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonriver54 Posted September 25 #1174 Share Posted September 25 @notamermaid Thank you for posting the above. Given the significant "bubble" slowly moving down the river, I'll be curious to see what the water level is in two weeks in say...Romania or some location much further downstream. The Lower Danube water level had been very low preceding the recent flooding in Austria and Slovakia. It'll be interesting to see if the "bubble" significantly affects the Lower Danube accordingly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare notamermaid Posted September 26 Author #1175 Share Posted September 26 2 hours ago, moonriver54 said: I'll be curious to see what the water level is in two weeks in say...Romania or some location much further downstream. From Novi Sad it is 1,255km to the mouth of the river, or at least kilometre zero. The Danube is fast flowing now but it varies so much, it can be between 6km and 10km an hour. If anyone wants to calculate when the wave is in Romania... Russe (for Bucharest) is at kilometre 488. notamermaid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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