Can you take a kettle on board aboat

[Dockman123]

Bilgeboy - I see from other posts that you can display an unfortunate and aggressive manner in your replies.

 

I also note that you are a smoker "and could not go for more than a few days" without a ciggie. Therefore, I would expect you to show some sympathy for the original poster and not berate him in such an unpleasant manner!! Cigarettes cause fires!! I personally experienced this in a casino on board a few weeks ago!!

 

He was only asking an opinion and really does not deserve for you to attack him like this!! He did not say he would definitely take a kettle.

 

It would seem that you are unable to debate or discuss the subject of which appliances should be permitted without being rude.

 

As far as your "nom de plume" is concerned - in English we have a saying "talking a load of bilge"!!! Seems perfectly apt to me!

 

Your posts are the only nasty ones - you may think this is clever - I believe it shows a total lack of consideration for others and is most discourteous.

 

Unfortunately on the first page of this thread the OP did say they were going to take it anyway.:( S/he is going on a ship that was built back in the 70's, even with refurbishing I have to wonder what type of electrical load it can take.:confused:

 

As far as debating which appliances should or should not be allowed is not an issue that is upto us to debate. We do not have a say in the matter. Whatever rules the cruseline sets is what they expect to be followed regardless of how we feel. Your comment on coffeemakers on an earlier post I do agree with, that it is just another form of a water heater and should not be taken aboard ship.

[K&RCurt]

How about you're both being Grumpy McGrumpersons? Kiss and make up! :rolleyes:

 

LOL....Very wise words Etoile!

[caribbean dreams]

 

The key to the whole thing is to act responsibly!! I have never heard of a fire on a ship due to a water heater or kettle. Have heard and seen fires caused by CIGARETTES!!!!!!! These are not banned in the cabins!!!

 

I have never heard of a fire on a ship caused by a cigarette, for all you know (at this point) the fire could have been caused by a kettle!

 

 

[2ladies]

Hi Dreamer - since the fire started on the balcony - how likely is it to be a kettle - hee hee!!! Perhaps someone was so desperate for tea that they took out a camping stove? Don't think so!!!

 

I personally saw a fire caused by a ciggie thrown in a waste bin in a ship's casino a few weeks ago!!! According to a member of staff, this is not an uncommon occurrence!! It was dealt with unbelievably quickly!!

 

Judging by the comments on this board by balcony cabin occupants who have found ciggie buts on their balconies - this was probably an accident waiting to happen!!! Like everything else in today's lifestyle, it is mostly the irresponsible people as opposed to machines, ciggies etc., which are at fault!! (Car accidents are the drivers fault!!). The iron is not at fault if it is left unattended - it is a humans fault!!

 

It is interesting that Princess has irons for public use on board - they are on a timer, but could cause a fire. Not yet heard of them causing a fire. Anyone??

 

I have a lot of fun on these boards - just object when posters are bullied and insulted - not nice!!! We can debate points with respect - that is all I was asking Mr. Bilge to do!!

[2ladies]

Dreamer - I have just reread the first post. He/she said he WAS going to take a kettle and what do we think? i.e. until the time he posted he intended to take a kettle, but was now asking an opinion!! He didn't say he was taking it anyway!!!

[etoile]

I have a lot of fun on these boards - just object when posters are bullied and insulted - not nice!!! We can debate points with respect - that is all I was asking Mr. Bilge to do!!

Saying that somebody is "full of bilge" is insulting, too. I love debating points with respect, but shouting and name-calling, no matter who's doing it, is just not pretty.

 

Also, the board is looking really weird for me...hopefully this post will work okay...

[etoile]

Dreamer - I have just reread the first post. He/she said he WAS going to take a kettle and what do we think? i.e. until the time he posted he intended to take a kettle, but was now asking an opinion!! He didn't say he was taking it anyway!!!

Actually, in post #13 on the first page of this thread, he did say he was taking it with him. :(

[lougee1043]

im going to take my kettle with me. :)

 

why did you bother to ask the question--were you hoping that everyone would agree with you and say yes and now that they said no many times you are stating that you are still bringing it with you

 

do you think the cruise line said no kettles because they want to ruin you day--------they said no because its a fire hazard and you could start one-- where are you going to plug it in when you are in a llifeboat

[2ladies]

I hope bluecrush is going to report back to this thread when he returns from his cruise.

 

I shall be interested to know whether he uses his kettle - if it blows the electrical system, or if he contacts the engineering department for an opinion on "water heater".

 

Actually, it may well be an old rule applying to the coil water heaters which were popular years ago. He should find out from the engineering department if a modern electric kettle with auto cut-out is permitted.

 

However, most people on this thread appear unable to debate the difference between various appliances - and the ciggie smokers are burying their heads in the sand!! They do anyway - cancer and second-hand smoke cancer rarely figure in their brains!!! Certainly wouldn't believe ciggies cause fires!! There are those of us who know better.

[luv2cworld2000]

I hope bluecrush is going to report back to this thread when he returns from his cruise.

Guess I am too late to put in my 2 cents. But here it is anyway for those who still think it is okay to bend the rules.

First Cigarette vs. coffeepot vs. tea kettle debate. Just because one group of people ignore the rules, that doesn’t justify another set from ignoring them as well.

Even though it might not be apparent, safety rules are there for a reason.

I work in a hospital and we are strictly forbidden to bring in any electrical appliances, even those newly purchase with shut off times, without them being inspected and approved by the hospital. This is probably why the cruise lines provide hairdryers and irons. (I just hope they are inspected regularly.) When the break room coffee pot needed to be replaced, we had to wait two weeks for the new one to be “approved”. And just like the ship doesn’t have room service, the hospital doesn’t have cafeteria service past 7pm. Believe me, no one could have been more upset for the inconvenience then a group of nurses working 12 hour overnight shifts. But we didn’t try to sneak one in and hope that management wouldn’t find out.

[2ladies]

Just read CC report on Star P fire and it actually mentions the coil water heaters as a potential problem. No mention of coffee makers, kettles etc.

 

The problem I have with the logic of appliances, is why ban a modern electric auto-cutout kettle when tongs are potentially more of a hazard? Pity we don't have an electrician to advise on the electrical aspects!!! A couple of years ago, I had a hairdryer go up in flames!!

 

Obviously, in an ideal world, all appliances used on a ship should be inspected before use. This is not practical! Again, I think the responsibility should be down to the user - apparently, passengers are bringing candles on board!!!

 

I am afraid that I have no faith in the fact that the cruise line regularly inspects the hairdryers they provide. Actually, I do think that with the modern fire detection and sprinkler systems, the threat of fire in a cabin is much less than years ago. The poster is going on an older ship - that would certainly affect my view of taking a kettle!!!

 

The Star P fire has led to suggestions that no personal items be left on balconies because they may catch fire. Now what would set them on fire other than ciggies thrown over by careless smokers?? Again, it is people rather than appliances at fault here!!

[Hollyhawk]

2ladies,

 

Would you be kind enough to tell me what the 'tongs' are you keep referring to?

 

Thank You,

 

Holly

[2ladies]

Hi Holly - those hair tongs (maketh thy hair curly wurly!!) or the opposite for those with natural curls!!! Then there are electric straighteners yada yada yada - the list of electrical items people bring on board today are endless and all can potentially cause fires. To such an extent that pax are now bringing on board extensions so that they can run who knows how many appliances etc. at once!!

 

The latest hazard is those room fresheners that plug-in - and passengers are using those also!!

 

The cruise lines most object to irons - I suppose since that is a direct source of great heat. As I said before, Princess has irons in its laundry room and doesn't appear to have problems. Perhaps ALL the cruise lines should supply a laundry room then no-one would bring irons. Of course, their laundry income would fall!!

 

However, as I said before, I am now less worried about appliances in cabins as the fire warning and extinguishing systems in the cabins are now excellent - I am extremely concerned about fires on balconies being started by ciggies, as there are no fire extinguishing or warning systems on the exterior of the ship.

 

I seem to be bashing ciggie smokers - well, we caught a fright in the casino when the bin went up in flames!! I don't object to smoking in designated safe areas. However, I do object to their sanctimonious attitude that the fact that they are endangering those around them is OK, whilst the habits of others is not!!! So many people on the ships smoke in non-smoking areas and you know if you object that they are going to become beligerant and tell you where to go!!!

 

The original poster is going on an old ship. If it were me, I would take the kettle to the Front Office and ask them to either pass it, or send a cuppa down to the cabin in the early hours!!! Can but try!!

[etoile]

I think tongs are the same thing as a curling iron :)

[Hollyhawk]

Thank you all for the replies, now for more confusion, some in the hair business refer to the hair straightening iron as a 'flat iron'.

[2ladies]

Yes - curling iron - that's what I mean - many years ago these were called curling tongs!! That's what happens when you become a wrinkly!!! Or are English!!!