Can you take a kettle on board aboat

[2ladies]

Totally uncalled for - not to say rude!!! If you are elderly and always had early morning tea, like many English people, this can be a problem.

 

I hope you believe all smokers are totally self-centred and selfish and should stay home!!!! After all, a morning cup of tea doesn't cause cancer to those around you inhaling the smoke!!!!

 

Your attitude is totally selfish and self-centred - enough said!!!! I think your nom-de-plume extremely apt!!!!

[Bonnie J.]

Wjhat happened to the 'coil' that you put in your mug of water then plugged it it. I had one in school. Got it in a drug store. I'd put my tea bag in then plug it in. As a tea drinker it worked fine!

[2ladies]

Target have them - wonderful invention - but I think these are 'verboten' in a big way!!! Its simply ridiculous to ban all these appliances when cigarettes are the major cause of fire!!! Anyway, its not the appliances - but the people using them!!

 

This particular ship may have wiring problems though. If it has, I wouldn't want to travel on it!! After all, if it can't take a small travel kettle, what about a computer for the radar etc?

[Happy ks]

Wjhat happened to the 'coil' that you put in your mug of water then plugged it it. I had one in school. Got it in a drug store. I'd put my tea bag in then plug it in. As a tea drinker it worked fine!

 

This is exactly the type of appliance they are stating that you not use onboard a cruise ship.

 

2ladies, I'm a coffee addict, I'm sure it is the same as your tea thing. But I would never consider putting someone elses life at risk for my morning coffee. That bilgeboy may have been rude is true, but it seems you're just not understanding the consequences. A fire at sea puts so many at peril, do you want to be responsible for that?

 

The problem isn't only the appliance left on. Appliances can also short circuit the electrical system, cause sparking. There is not only a fire danger, there is a possibility that the appliance can also shut down the electricity to the surrounding area. I have a travel hair dryer that cannot be used on an older cruise ship, the wattage is too high. Fortunately, it has an automatic shut off to prevent it from wiping out everyone elses electricity. I leave it at home when we cruise on the older ships and just put up with what is provided for me for the week. We don't always have the comforts of home when we travel and we just have to accept it.

 

I think the best solution would be to take along a good thermos and make your tea at night.

[Dockman123]

It really doesn't matter what the reason is for not permitting some things and allowing others. The bottom line is the owners of the cruise lines have set their rules and expect them to be followed. This is their house and wether you understand their reasons or not doesn't really matter. How would you feel and react if I came into your home and questioned your rules and did as I pleased.

 

It is a shame that one of the smallest words in the English language seems to be hardest word to understand and accept. Learn to accept that no means no. You can do whatever you want in your house but please abide by the rules of the cruise lines house.

[2ladies]

I suggested the thermos idea in a previous post.

 

The point I am making is that the coil automatically gives up the ghost when there is no water and the kettle has a cut-off. What is different from the tongs, hairdryers and other appliances that YOU all expect to be able to use!! I am sure these have caused incidents previously. Why pick on teamakers? What about irons many people take on board? Why is your hairdo more important?

 

Why not stop smoking on board which causes more fires than anything else? I am perhaps being a little controversial here, but its fun!!!

[Dockman123]

I suggested the thermos idea in a previous post.

 

The point I am making is that the coil automatically gives up the ghost when there is no water and the kettle has a cut-off. What is different from the tongs, hairdryers and other appliances that YOU all expect to be able to use!! I am sure these have caused incidents previously. Why pick on teamakers? What about irons many people take on board? Why is your hairdo more important?

 

Why not stop smoking on board which causes more fires than anything else? I am perhaps being a little controversial here, but its fun!!!

 

It is simple the cruise line says no water heater. For whatever reason they allow the other things.

[KruznKel]

Why not stop smoking on board which causes more fires than anything else? I am perhaps being a little controversial here, but its fun!!!

 

What part of bringing a kettle onboard has to do with smoking?? I say stop the harassment of smokers.. and get back to the topic:rolleyes:

 

Kettles should not be brought on board..order hot water from room service it is available 24hrs.. or wait until 7am for room service to delilver your breakfast order with tea!

[2ladies]

I dont think you read the posts properly!! Apparently, the ship he is going on doesn't have room service!!!

 

Of course the topic has to do with causes of fire on board - primary cause is cigarettes - anyone dispute that?!!

 

However, I am trying to find a sensible explanation as to why water heaters are picked on as being more dangerous than other appliances and cigarettes!!! No-one has yet come up with a sensible answer!!! Lots of things are banned on ships and in hotels and people take no notice!!

 

But why are water heaters singled out? Maybe there is an electrician out there who can tell us!!!!

 

Its interesting that in the U.S. electric kettles are not common. In the UK almost every home has one and it has never been claimed to be a fire hazard!!!

[PurpleCow]

Any electtrical appliance, especially one that heats up, is a fire hazard. Coffee pots and toasters have caused fires when they've been turn off if they're still plugged in. I don't have any statistics which causes more fires on cruise ships, but I'm guess first the kitchen, then the laundry room, then over heating appliances in stateooms then unattended cigarettes. I found these statistics on home fires in the US between 1999 and 2002:

Cooking equipment (30.5%)

Heating equipment (15.8%)

Intentional (10.3%)

Open flame, ember, or toch (8.9%)

Electrical distribution equipment (8.5%)

Appliance, tool, or air conditioning (5.7%)

Smoking materials (5.6%)

Other heat source (4.6%)

Exposure (4.1%)

Child playing (3.3%)

Natural causes (1.6%)

Other equipment (1.2%)

 

I'm assuming that the statistics are similar in hotels, on cruise ships, etc. The reason that there are more electric kettles in other countries than there are in the US is that we're basically brewed coffee drinkers, rather than tea or instant coffee drinkers.

[2ladies]

Well, lately it has certainly been cigarettes more than kettles on ships. But that is not my point. I want to know why leaving a kettle plugged in that has an automatic cut-off is more dangerous than leaving a pair of tongs on a countertop plugged in!!!! The tongs will set fire to the countertop and the kettle won't!!!! Same with heated rollers I suppose!!! Personally, I think they are referring to the coil water heaters that were used years ago and not to the relatively new automatic cut-off travel kettles that are now sold in Europe. This rule, like irons, has been in use for years. And people have been ignoring the rule for years. Just as smokers ignore the rule about throwing anything overboard - and such behaviour set the Star on fire!!!!

 

Actually, I expect the cruise lines would like to ban all appliances - they are all a fire hazard unless used with care!!! I do know that MANY Americans now bring a small coffee maker on board as the coffee is so bad. Interesting now I come to think of it, as this IS a water heater!!!

[GreatTimes]

... I want to know why .. a kettle ... is more dangerous ...

 

If you want to know the reason the cruise line has banned kettles, ask your cruise line. Tell them your problem and ask them why you can't bring your kettle on board with you. If they tell you it is a fire hazard, I hope you will believe them, since you don't believe us. If they concede that there really is no reason for the ban, tell them you are bringing a kettle on board.

 

Otherwise, follow the rules, or do you believe that the rules are for other people?

[wrp96]

Of course the topic has to do with causes of fire on board - primary cause is cigarettes - anyone dispute that?!!

 

 

Yes, because other than the suspected cause of the Star Princess fire - and at this point it is just a rumor started by a Hotel Industry official in Jamaica - no cruise ship fires have been proven to be caused by cigarettes. But it is proven that they have been started in the Ship's Laundrys and the Kitchens.

[2ladies]

Agreed - laundrys, kitchens etc. etc. But how many by appliances in cabins? I think all the ciggie smokers, who know these cause fires, are now up-in-arms!!

 

If you read all the posts, by the way, you would note that I am not the one asking to bring a kettle - I am playing Devil's Advocate. It is an interesting point as to why heated tongs, which can easily cause a fire if left plugged in, are less dangerous than modern electric kettles with auto-cutout!! I also note that many are now bringing extensions to plug in computers, hairdryers, tongs etc. on the one circuit. Will this not cause overload?

 

Also, you will see that many posters on this site are taking Coffee Makers with them. What about these?!!! Are they not water heaters?

 

Another question, on modern ships, are water heaters banned? I know irons are! This thread of course, was concerned with an older ship.

 

Actually, I would suggest that anyone wishing to take a kettle with them does so, and asks the Chief Engineer to give a Dispensation (not Papal!) or an opinion on why tongs are OK and modern kettle not!! And then report back at a later date!!

[bibb]

Acting responsibly would be to observe the rules of the cruise line and leave the "Water Heater" (whatever the nature) at home.

 

On many of the older ships, they didn't have the abundance of 115 volt recepticals the new ships have and they weren't meant to power appliances. Some are even marked, "Electric Razors Only".

[CateW]

Wow, it seems that the original poster is going to do whatever they want to do anyway so why ask the question. Bringing any type of appliance on board that could create a fire hazzard is grossly irresponsible and makes no sense whatsoever.

[etoile]

At least nobody's wanting to bring scented candles on board. :rolleyes:

[Buckeye Girl]

There are fewer and fewer electrical outlets in cabins now. We are sailing on RCCL Serenade of the Seas and I found out there are only 2 outlets in the entire cabin. I wonder if their logic is to decrease the number of appliances people can plug in at a time by decreasing the number of outlets. Now a days, people are bringing laptops that need charged, cell phones that need charged, video cameras that need charged, digital cameras that need charged, along with hair dryers, curling irons, rollers, etc... By only putting 2 outlets in the cabins you certainly limit the number of items one can have plugged in which has to reduce your chances of blowing a fuse or starting a fire. Just a thought...

[bilgeboyPa]

Totally uncalled for - not to say rude!!! If you are elderly and always had early morning tea, like many English people, this can be a problem.

 

I hope you believe all smokers are totally self-centred and selfish and should stay home!!!! After all, a morning cup of tea doesn't cause cancer to those around you inhaling the smoke!!!!

 

Your attitude is totally selfish and self-centred - enough said!!!! I think your nom-de-plume extremely apt!!!!

I call blatantly disregarding safety regulations and putting your fellow passengers at risk is also "rude". And since when does being elderly give you or anyone else at that to do what ever you want to do when ever you want to. I must have my tea. Please. As for my "nom-de-plume", I wouldn't talk. I find your lack of logic absolutely boorish.

[spookwife]

Buckeye, you may have a point.. but as a result, people have advocated bringing extension cords and power strips along to allow more items to be plugged in at once. Powerstrips might be slightly safer due to their surge protection, but they are also very unwieldy and bulky. But even so, there are ways to get around limiting outlets, and this is one of them.

 

I do plan on bringing an extension cord..but for one reason only.. I suspect the outlets will be hard to get to(behind furniture, etc) and being mildly handicapped, the extension cord will make it easier for me to plug in the camera each night. It's also the ONLY device that will need plugging in, as I seldom use a hair dryer, so the one provided will be adequate for my purposes, as we have no intention whatsoever of bringing any other small appliance, and our travel alarm clock is battery operated.

[etoile]

I seem to remember hair dryers being provided in the bathrooms in cabins. I have been on Celebrity and HAL and I thought they both had them, but people talk about bringing hair dryers. Am I remembering wrong? They were those ugly wall types with the big hose. :confused:

[spookwife]

from what I understand from reading these boards.. the provided hair dryers don't work all that great, being low wattage or what I don't know.

[Happy ks]

 

I do plan on bringing an extension cord..but for one reason only.. I suspect the outlets will be hard to get to(behind furniture, etc) and being mildly handicapped, the extension cord will make it easier for me to plug in the camera each night. It's also the ONLY device that will need plugging in, as I seldom use a hair dryer, so the one provided will be adequate for my purposes, as we have no intention whatsoever of bringing any other small appliance, and our travel alarm clock is battery operated.

 

The outlets are typically right at the desk level and very easy to reach. You will probably not have any difficulty reaching them at all.

 

Even older ships have only two outlets, it's not a new thing. There is one in the bathroom, most of the time it is only strong enough for an electric shaver. Once in a while they mount a hair dryer in the bathroom, those are awful to use for your hair, but they work great for quickly drying your bathing suit! There is usually no handle just a hose, it gets hot :( .

 

We haven't yet taken along an extension cord or strip and have not needed one.

[2ladies]

Bilgeboy - I see from other posts that you can display an unfortunate and aggressive manner in your replies.

 

I also note that you are a smoker "and could not go for more than a few days" without a ciggie. Therefore, I would expect you to show some sympathy for the original poster and not berate him in such an unpleasant manner!! Cigarettes cause fires!! I personally experienced this in a casino on board a few weeks ago!!

 

He was only asking an opinion and really does not deserve for you to attack him like this!! He did not say he would definitely take a kettle.

 

It would seem that you are unable to debate or discuss the subject of which appliances should be permitted without being rude.

 

As far as your "nom de plume" is concerned - in English we have a saying "talking a load of bilge"!!! Seems perfectly apt to me!

 

Your posts are the only nasty ones - you may think this is clever - I believe it shows a total lack of consideration for others and is most discourteous.

[etoile]

How about you're both being Grumpy McGrumpersons? Kiss and make up! :rolleyes: