stoneharborlady Posted May 19, 2006 #101 Share Posted May 19, 2006 OK, her bracelet is off, her house arrest finished. If I had to check in with a probation officer periodically to account for my life, it would not be over for me. Karen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted May 19, 2006 #102 Share Posted May 19, 2006 The person/people who bought her stock may well have been hurt. MSO stock soars after Stewart learns fate from http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5451844/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLP1 Posted May 19, 2006 #103 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Did not know that so many lawyers cruised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dena Posted May 19, 2006 #104 Share Posted May 19, 2006 MSO stock soars after Stewart learns fatefrom http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5451844/ I was referring to the stock she sold as a result of insider information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven_&_Daniel Posted May 20, 2006 #105 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I guess the first thread of Martha bashing and holier-than-thou posts wasn't enough. On the other thread, I posted... "Isn't it amazing how judgemental many of these posts are? It's nice to know there are so many people who have never done anything wrong in their lives and have no need to learn forgiveness (and consider themselves worthy of judging others). From reading many of these posts, I guess anyone who commits a crime should be put away and shunned by society indefinitely." For those who keep saying, "I would never commit a crime"... ask yourself if you've ever driven over the speed limit. Are there different categories or levels of right and wrong? Some sins are okay but others are not? How about dropping the stones you're throwing and seeing if there's anything that needs improving in your own life instead of judging others. If you'd led the perfect life, don't ruin it now by passing judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted May 20, 2006 #106 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I was referring to the stock she sold as a result of insider information. What stock was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&J Posted May 20, 2006 #107 Share Posted May 20, 2006 The stock was Sam Waxal's Im-clone stock which incidentally almost double in stock price after her trial was over had she held it so I am not one of these people who thought she was so greedy that she needed to get out and had a short sell position in place of $60.00.... Anyways, she's out, she's free and making more money than you and I can jump over...is it so bad for her? ....I think NOT! Viva Martha Libre! Tony :cool: :eek: :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD Posted May 20, 2006 #108 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I guess the first thread of Martha bashing and holier-than-thou posts wasn't enough. On the other thread, I posted... "Isn't it amazing how judgemental many of these posts are? It's nice to know there are so many people who have never done anything wrong in their lives and have no need to learn forgiveness (and consider themselves worthy of judging others). From reading many of these posts, I guess anyone who commits a crime should be put away and shunned by society indefinitely." For those who keep saying, "I would never commit a crime"... ask yourself if you've ever driven over the speed limit. Are there different categories or levels of right and wrong? Some sins are okay but others are not? How about dropping the stones you're throwing and seeing if there's anything that needs improving in your own life instead of judging others. If you'd led the perfect life, don't ruin it now by passing judgement. No, not shunned. But Godmother of a cruise ship? Maybe not. I'm not a Godfather of a cruise ship, but I don't feel shunned by society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&J Posted May 20, 2006 #109 Share Posted May 20, 2006 We'll maybe so huh!!!! Good for Martha ...rah rah rah!Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genessa Posted May 20, 2006 #110 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Yes, because Corrections should correct inmates. Then let them out when they are corrected. (Flame away) derf, I agree with you 100%. Inmates should be let out when they are corrected. If they aren't corrected, they shouldn't be let out. So, when they are let out, corrected, they should be allowed to live wherever, including next door to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdjam Posted May 20, 2006 #111 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Just so that I know why I do not hate Princess’ decision, could someone tell me what Martha was convicted of? From what I gather, it wasn’t inside trading – which they were not able to prove – but lying to a Federal official. Is that correct? If it is correct, then we all got some ‘splaining to do – and if that’s the disqualifying criteria, then none of us will be Godmothers of ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T&J Posted May 20, 2006 #112 Share Posted May 20, 2006 The charge was for lying to Fed Officials...FBI and Justice Department about the trade. Also, had she not agreed to meet with them prior to the charges being levied against her she wouldn't have been in this mess today. she was NOT compelled at the time to talk, but she did instead in order to cooperate with the investigation. Look they wanted her at all costs and they got her. Remember this was all when there was Enron, Worldcom and Bernie Evers and also Denis Kowslowski with Tyco. Big public pressure on the Justice Department to get a big fish. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted May 20, 2006 #113 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Also, had she not agreed to meet with them prior to the charges being levied against her she wouldn't have been in this mess today. she was NOT compelled at the time to talk, but she did instead in order to cooperate with the investigation. So if law inforcement wants to talk to me I better not. Because if I do talk to them I would be in more trouble? Something is not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan-M Posted May 20, 2006 #114 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I guess the first thread of Martha bashing and holier-than-thou posts wasn't enough. On the other thread, I posted... "Isn't it amazing how judgemental many of these posts are? It's nice to know there are so many people who have never done anything wrong in their lives and have no need to learn forgiveness (and consider themselves worthy of judging others). From reading many of these posts, I guess anyone who commits a crime should be put away and shunned by society indefinitely." For those who keep saying, "I would never commit a crime"... ask yourself if you've ever driven over the speed limit. Are there different categories or levels of right and wrong? Some sins are okay but others are not? How about dropping the stones you're throwing and seeing if there's anything that needs improving in your own life instead of judging others. If you'd led the perfect life, don't ruin it now by passing judgement. Well said !! And really, they've only chosen her as 'godmother' not CEO of the company. I didn't even know that ships had godmothers .... do they look after the spiritual well-being of the ship? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted May 20, 2006 #115 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I didn't even know that ships had godmothers .... do they look after the spiritual well-being of the ship? ;) Traditionally, ships were “christened” – or named – by “godmothers” who launched the ships from http://www.cruising.org/cruisenews/news.cfm?NID=230 The French viewed a new vessel much as a newborn child, with both a godmother and godfather, from http://www.cruisemates.com/articles/feature/christening.cfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrysalis Posted May 20, 2006 #116 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Well said !! And really, they've only chosen her as 'godmother' not CEO of the company. I didn't even know that ships had godmothers .... do they look after the spiritual well-being of the ship? ;) Like all Princess Godmothers, her photo will hang on the wall of the Atrium...her eyes gazing over all the folks hunched over their laptops checking the upward rise of their "Martha" stock holdings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan-M Posted May 20, 2006 #117 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Traditionally, ships were “christened” – or named – by “godmothers” who launched the ships from http://www.cruising.org/cruisenews/news.cfm?NID=230 The French viewed a new vessel much as a newborn child, with both a godmother and godfather, from http://www.cruisemates.com/articles/feature/christening.cfm Interesting reading .... I think Martha is worthy of the honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted May 20, 2006 #118 Share Posted May 20, 2006 Everyone has an opinion and I feel that Princess could have found someone much more deserving. Regardless as to paying her debt to society, she is a convicted felon that can no longer vote as an American citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted May 20, 2006 #119 Share Posted May 20, 2006 she is a convicted felon that can no longer vote as an American citizen. Forty-eight states currently have some form of restriction on the right of felons to vote. The exceptions are Maine and Vermont, which even permit inmates to vote. Thirty-three states disenfranchise felons who are on parole. Eight states deny felons the right to vote for life. from http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/kirsanow200401080830.asp Felony disenfranchisement from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted May 20, 2006 #120 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I wonder if this means Princess will pick Leona Helmsley for title of the Emerald!!!!!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted May 20, 2006 #121 Share Posted May 20, 2006 I wonder if this means Princess will pick Leona Helmsley for title of the Emerald!!!!!:) I like Barry Bonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madelinerose Posted May 20, 2006 #122 Share Posted May 20, 2006 derf, you kill me! :D I like Barry Bonds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongerob Posted May 21, 2006 #123 Share Posted May 21, 2006 My money's on Heidi Fleiss. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted May 21, 2006 #124 Share Posted May 21, 2006 The word "Monica" comes to mind? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derf5585 Posted May 21, 2006 #125 Share Posted May 21, 2006 The word "Monica" comes to mind? :D You get the cigar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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