MBZ Girl Posted May 17, 2007 #26 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I am also a non smoker and just returning from the Connie, I would say I was terribly disappointed that the Champagne Bar was smoking & the Martini Bar was not. I would have loved to enjoy the Champagne Bar on an occasional evening. I would love for the ships to have designated smoking areas OUTSIDE and in the casino, makes no diference to me as I am not a big gambler. I also support the no smoking on balconies as we had neighbors that smoked & we definitely were bothered by it while out on our balcony!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StknCPA Posted May 17, 2007 #27 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Do you think that Celebrity should adopt Azamara's stricter smoking policy, or do you think they should leave their smoking policy as/is? 1. Yes, Celebrity should adopt Azamara's stricter smoking policy! 2. No, Celebrity should leave the smoking policy as/is! I think Celebrity (and any other business) should consider their values (including their interpretation of health impacts to their employess and customers) and, within their (ie, not the government's) boundaries, impliment whatever policy will maximize their profits. Then, it is up to we consumers to purchase goods and services from companies that provide what we value/want/need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katiebeth Posted May 17, 2007 #28 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I do wish Celebrity had a more restrictive smoking policy, particularly with regards to the staterooms and verandas. We cruise once a year on Celebrity and always get a cabin with a balcony. We take the 10 to 14 day cruises (Europe and Alaska) and have always been bothered by smoke while on our balcony (sometimes worse than others). It seems that smokers, naturally, like to book cabins with balconies so that they may smoke. We even had a gentleman next door to us who smoked cigars all the time. As a result, we hardly used our balcony during a 12 night Med. cruise. I guess cigar smoking is allowed on the balconies. I don't mind designated smoking areas throughout the ship, but would prefer not to have it in the staterooms and verandas. I was sorry to read that the Champagne Bar on the Connie is designated as a smoking area. We will be on the Connie in June and I do enjoy an occassional glass of champagne. Happy Sailings, Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usha Posted May 17, 2007 Author #29 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I guess cigar smoking is allowed on the balconies. Is it? I got this from Celebrity's faq: What is your onboard smoking policy? Subject: Ship and Stateroom Details Cigarette smoking only is allowed in suites/staterooms. Cigarette smoking only is permitted on the port-side of most public lounges and deck areas. Smoking is not allowed in all dining venues and the Show Lounge. Pipe and cigar smoking only permitted in designated areas. Please ask the Guest Relations Desk for information about these areas. There are no non-smoking staterooms. I guess we should check with Guest Relations about the "designated areas" for pipe & cigar smoking? :p Doesn't sound like X is encouraging pax to smoke pipes (ewwwwe) & stogies (ick) in their cabins or balconies~ I just emailed Celebrity to find out what the policy is with where pipes & cigars are okay onboard, and where they're NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65Cardinal Posted May 17, 2007 #30 Share Posted May 17, 2007 We are non-smokers and while I can tolerate second hand smoke my wife can pick it up from 50 yards and really objects to it. I really like the idea of making all the staterooms on one side of the ship non-smoking. We have had adjoining rooms with smokers which was dreadful. On the veranda the smoke does get disapated but it is still a bit of a problem for my wife. My main complaint is that Celebrity does not enforce its own rules. In January on the Mercury people openly smoked in the Martini Bar in spite of the fact it was designated non-smoking. I complained to an officer who cleaned it up one night but was never to be seen again so for the rest of the cruise people just lit up. The same goes for the casino - just enforce the rules of having one side of the ship non-smoking. Why have the rules if you are not going to enforce them?? Jack and Sheila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nydolphin Posted May 17, 2007 #31 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Being an ex-smoker I cannot abide the smell of cigarette smoke. I also feel sad for the social and medical damage people still inflict on themselves and others. To expect a long term heavy smoker, not to smoke for longer than 24 hours though is just impossible. I would prefer that smoking be limited to outdoor areas on one side of the ship (including only balconies on one side of the ship) + the casino. But, where in place, this policy must be policed and upheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2OC Posted May 17, 2007 #32 Share Posted May 17, 2007 It seems this poll is running 60/40 which shows that we need to increase non-smoking to at least half the staterooms.Of course someone would think the smokers got the best side of the ship.Some would say the non-smoking was the best side and this would happen on the same cruise........Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katiebeth Posted May 17, 2007 #33 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Dear Usha, Please let me know what you hear from Celebrity. If in fact, pipe and cigar smoking is not allowed on the balconies, that is a good thing to know. I never felt that I could call guest services because I thought it was allowed. We are cruising on the Constellation in June on a 14 night Baltic cruise and have a balcony. Thanks for the information. Nancy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Jake Posted May 17, 2007 #34 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Great News that Cigars/Pipes are banned on balconies.It's a start.:DBT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted May 17, 2007 #35 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Great News that Cigars/Pipes are banned on balconies.It's a start.:DBT It will be interesting to see what Usha gets as a response as banning Cigara and pipes on balconies has never been their policy. In general the rules cited are for the public areas of which the balcony is not. If this is the case it is a change in policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbelian Posted May 17, 2007 #36 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Great News that Cigars/Pipes are banned on balconies. They are not banned on balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Sweet Posted May 17, 2007 #37 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Years ago when I was a small child, I woke up in the middle of the night and smelled smoke. It turned out that our housekeeper's cigarette was not fully extinguished when she threw it away, and it started a fire in her waste paper basket. It was fortunate for our family that I smelled it and took care of the problem at a very early stage, because the housekeeper was sound asleep and didn't even realize there was a problem until I came into her room and woke her up. My parents were out at the time, and my younger siblings were asleep. That experience left its mark on me, and I have always been concerned about people smoking in their cabins because of safety issues. Needless to say, the thought of a fire at sea is much scarier than in a land based building. For this reason, I would be thrilled if Celebrity had the same smoking policy as Azamara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2OC Posted May 17, 2007 #38 Share Posted May 17, 2007 The rules printed state cigarettes allowed in staterooms and suites cigars a pipes in designated areas.The policy mentions cigarettes in cabins but not cigars.To me that means cigars are banned on balconies..........Frank:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted May 17, 2007 #39 Share Posted May 17, 2007 The rules printed state cigarettes allowed in staterooms and suitescigars a pipes in designated areas.The policy mentions cigarettes in cabins but not cigars.To me that means cigars are banned on balconies..........Frank:) That is why it will be interesting to see Celebrity's response. That is your interpretation and it has not been Celebrity's interpretation in the past. It could also be a new policy. The policy has always been Cigars/Pipes are allowed on the balconies. I base this on personal observations and the numerous complaints made over many years on these boards... My guess is that Usha will get a response back quoting the policy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldIrish Posted May 17, 2007 #40 Share Posted May 17, 2007 As a long time smoker (38 years) who managed to quit, I never realized how bad cigarette smoke smells. My car and my clothes always stunk and I didn't realize it. I was amazed when people complained about the smell. I thought they were crazy or just being a pain in the butt. You really don't realize it until you stop.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbelian Posted May 17, 2007 #41 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I think its funny how people interpret things to suite 'their' needs (read that, 'what they want to believe'). Similar to the 'requested/required' transalations. By omitting specific mention of something, it is therefore, by default, prohibited? That is not true. It is not true for smoking on your balcony. Cigarettes, cigars, or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbelian Posted May 17, 2007 #42 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Would you call a booze smuggler an arrogant drinker? There is a rule for that. Would you call someone who dresses how they want an arrogant dresser? There is a rule for that. Who need rules? If you read enough here, you begin to believe that celebrity has rules and doesn't enforce them anyway, and, their ships are filled with arrogant people who ignore rules....:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chessbriar Posted May 17, 2007 #43 Share Posted May 17, 2007 It seems this poll is running 60/40 which shows that we need to increase non-smoking to at least half the staterooms.Of course someone would think the smokers got the best side of the ship.Some would say the non-smoking was the best side and this would happen on the same cruise........FrankSince smoke rises, we'll make the top 2 decks of balconies smoking balconies. The rules printed state cigarettes allowed in staterooms and suitescigars a pipes in designated areas.The policy mentions cigarettes in cabins but not cigars.To me that means cigars are banned on balconies..........Frank:) In cabins and on balconies are not one and the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalGal Posted May 17, 2007 #44 Share Posted May 17, 2007 On one of our cruises on the Summit which was two weeks to Alaska my sister and her husband had the misfortune of their neighbor being a chain smoker. The smokers cabin was ahead of theirs so the smoke drifted into their room and balcony. My sister was recovering from lung cancer surgery and was extemely uncomfortable with the situation. The Summit was sold out so they had no hope for another stateroom. Since the ship does have designated smoking areas, (port-side only in public areas) I think it would be a great idea to have all smokers staterooms on one side of the ship. The only problem with that is less than 25% our population still smoke....I believe Europeans have a higher percentage of smokers. These morons that insist on smoking those smelly cigars are another problem that needs to be addressed. Sorry folks, but to me it is the height of rudeness and insensitivity inflicting your nasty habit onto others. And yes, I am proud to be an ex-smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbelian Posted May 17, 2007 #45 Share Posted May 17, 2007 These morons that insist on smoking those smelly cigars are another problem that needs to be addressed. Along with the morons who insist on not following the dress code, the morons who insist on smuggling booze, the morons who insist on hogging chairs, the morons who insist on drinking and passing out in the hallway... yep, there sure are a lot of morons on cruise ships. Why do we go an cruises again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasTX Posted May 17, 2007 #46 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I haven't sailed yet on Celebrity (2 weeks from today!!), but my main concern is a smoker on the neighboring balcony, or that the room I am in was just vacated by a heavy smoker. The biggest change they could make would be non-smoking room sections, just like hotels do. It wouldn't have to be half the ship even as some have suggested. It could be the forward part of Deck 4, aft-portside of Deck 5, balconies on Starboard deck 7, etc until they had the right capacity. Based on itenirary, they could have more or less smoking rooms and divvy them out accordingly. It wouldn't add much of anything to the cost of doing business and would be a great customer satisfier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkjretired Posted May 17, 2007 #47 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I haven't sailed yet on Celebrity (2 weeks from today!!), but my main concern is a smoker on the neighboring balcony, or that the room I am in was just vacated by a heavy smoker. The biggest change they could make would be non-smoking room sections, just like hotels do. It wouldn't have to be half the ship even as some have suggested. It could be the forward part of Deck 4, aft-portside of Deck 5, balconies on Starboard deck 7, etc until they had the right capacity. Based on itenirary, they could have more or less smoking rooms and divvy them out accordingly. It wouldn't add much of anything to the cost of doing business and would be a great customer satisfier. Although your post is well thought out, apparently the cruise lines are not prepared to take those steps yet, perhaps in a couple of years. Below is a great article from cruise critic on smoking on cruise ships which explains the idea of spoilage, which is the reason cruise lines don't assign smoking or non smoking sides or cabins. http://www.cruisecritic.com/features/articles.cfm?ID=225 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDeck Posted May 17, 2007 #48 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Along with the morons who insist on not following the dress code, the morons who insist on smuggling booze, the morons who insist on hogging chairs, the morons who insist on drinking and passing out in the hallway... yep, there sure are a lot of morons on cruise ships. Why do we go an cruises again? These morons are not giving me diseases,burning my clothes, or interferring with the use of my private space for which I paid a good deal of money. They are not making my hair stink, clothes stink nor are they a fire hazzard to the other couple thousand people or so. Chair hogs are a pain, tacky dressers are well....tacky dressers, booze smugglers are breaking a rule that does not effect me, they have to deal with their own conscience. The smoking interferes with my bought and paid for vacation in a clean,nice smelling, free from danger,breathable atmosphere. So,IMVHO I think it's comparing apples to oranges to compare these things, to smoking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDeck Posted May 17, 2007 #49 Share Posted May 17, 2007 Since smoke rises, we'll make the top 2 decks of balconies smoking balconies. In cabins and on balconies are not one and the same. Then they will flick ashes on peoples heads.Someones hair would probably catch on fire!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claud925 Posted May 17, 2007 #50 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I was terribly disappointed that the Champagne Bar was smoking & the Martini Bar was not. I would have loved to enjoy the Champagne Bar on an occasional evening. I would have loved to enjoy the Martini Bar on an occasional evening . . . P.S.: I'm a smoker.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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