Ncl Is Going Smoke Free!

[RachieLnnn]

Second hand smoke is as provable as Global Warming. Just another Liberal scare tactic so they can govern you to death.

 

PE

 

Unfortunately I don't think that liberals are the only ones to use scare tactics. :rolleyes:

[Planer's Edge]

Unfortunately I don't think that liberals are the only ones to use scare tactics. :rolleyes:

 

Yea, but Conservatives don't want to govern you to death.:rolleyes:

 

PE

[glorya]

Hallelujah! I hope the casino will be next.

 

All I can add to this is "AMEN" !!!!!!!!!

[RachieLnnn]

Yea' date=' but Conservatives don't want to govern you to death.:rolleyes:

 

PE[/quote']

 

I wonder which would be less painful.

 

Breathing second-hand smoke to death

 

or

 

Being governed to death?

 

I'm not making much sense I know, it's the end of the day and I'm kind of loopy! :D

[seahorse]

Carnival's smoke-free Paradise was always full and very popular, the only Carnival ship we would sail on. The problem for Carnival was that Paradise had the lowest bar and casino revenue of any ship in it's fleet. Obviously, non-smokers do not drink or gamble as much as smokers and the bottom line prevailed.

 

I applaud NCL's new smoking restrictions. On the Dawn there was always a problem at the bar in Gatsby's with the smoke effecting the pianist there, the people waiting to enter Impressions and those in the Asian restaurant directly above.

 

Don`t smoke, but I sure drink:D bottom line.......you could not book groups on the Paradise, there are only so many non-smoking organizations out there.

 

I have to agree, sometimes Gatsby`s was disgusting, could not stay there and have a drink and listen to the entertainment:(

 

I would imagine the Jewel Class ships have the same problem being the bars are so close together.

[seahorse]

I wonder which would be less painful.

 

Breathing second-hand smoke to death

 

or

 

Being governed to death?

 

I'm not making much sense I know, it's the end of the day and I'm kind of loopy! :D

 

At least we have a choice where to breath:D

[Retired not Expired]

I just read this whole thread. I don't believe you have to go on a ship to see smoke blowing. WOW.

[jetskier]

I love to shock people...he he he!!!:D

 

Sort of like that photo of you on the Sun.:eek: How have you been doing Marcus?

 

Dave

[Welove2cruise2]

SO, your DH was the one who ruined our morning breakfast on our balcony while smoking his cigar :) :) !

 

No, he doesn't smoke cigars until later in the day...;)

[Welove2cruise2]

Beginning July 15, 2007

 

Staterooms

 

Cigarette smoking in staterooms and on balconies will be permitted.

 

Non-smoking guests concerned about sailing in a stateroom that may have been previously occupied by a smoking guest should be advised of the following:

 

Staterooms with smokers will be deep-cleaned after disembarkation.

 

Ionizers and carpet freshener will be used to rid the stateroom of the smell of smoke

 

Bedspreads will be dry cleaned and replaced.

 

If the stateroom was previously occupied with heavy smokers, drapes, pillows and other upholstery will be dry cleaned and the walls wiped down and carpets will be steam cleaned as necessary.

 

Cigar and pipe smoking in staterooms and on balconies will be prohibited.

 

Indoor Spaces

 

All interior venues, with the exception of the enclosed cigar bars and the casino, will be non-smoking. Smoking will be prohibited in all restaurants, bars, theatres, meeting rooms, restrooms, corridors, stairwells and lobbies.

 

Cigarette smoking in the casino will be permitted.

 

Cigarette, cigar and pipe smoking will be permitted in enclosed cigar bars.

 

Outdoor Spaces

 

Cigarette, cigar and pipe smoking will be permitted in outdoor public guest spaces and open decks, where designated by ship’s management, based on the ship’s specific characteristics. No smoking will be permitted in or near venues serving food, the jogging track, outdoor sporting venues and children’s pool areas.

 

Ship’s management may also prohibit outdoor smoking at certain times such as during safety drills, tendering operations or while refueling.

 

 

Where did this come from? I've checked NCL's website and don't see this anywhere...

 

You know, after 7 pages or so of discussion, we haven't seen anything "official" from NCL -- heresay, rumors, and information from corporate -- and we know how that goes...:rolleyes:

[salty dingo]

I am glad to learn NCL is tightening down on smoking. It is happening everywhere else, why not on the ship too.

 

I am saddened that the casino is exempt - it can get pretty bad in there with all the smoke. Maybe that will be a reason for me not to lose money there!!

 

I was struck by the statement that smokers' cabins would be cleaned extra-thoroughly. That make me ask two questions:

 

1) why don't they just clean all cabins thoroughly

 

2) if they expend more effort cleaning smokers' cabins, maybe a smoking surcharge is in order to pay for the extra effort? Sounds fair to me.

[garycarla]

For those with issues of "last minute changes"....

 

Few people have a clue what the policy really is, but in today's world, smoling is seriously restricted in most public areas in real life anyways. So no big issue there.

 

As to their "stated policy" of deep cleaning, dry cleaning, etc. That is a bunch of B.S. They turn these ships around in a few hours. The best they can manage to do is change the sheets. No way will they do all that dry cleaning and ionization crap inside of a few hours.

 

But, congrats to NCL for trying.

[Droopy_Sails]

But, this is a free country (or it was) and the government should not step in and pass laws like the one in Ohio to ban smoking. If NCL or a private vendor wants to do it, fine, that's the market at work. But the government should not step in and decide what people can and cannot do.

 

When you think about it, non-smoking laws and ordinances are the market at work, too. Non-smokers now outnumber smokers by such a degree--and people opposed to breathing secondhand smoke in places of public accommodation (restaurants, bars, etc.) are now so much more numerous than people who want to smoke in bars and restaurants--that these laws and ordinances are just codifying overwhelming public preferences.

 

It will be nice to be able to sit in an NCL/NCLA bar and actually enjoy some music instead of gagging on the smoke. I'm an ex-smoker, but even when I smoked I had no problems with any restrictions. If I could have smoked without bothering others, I'd have had a right to complain, but that's not how smoking works. I figured the right to swing my arm ended where the other person's nose began, as the old expression goes.

[Droopy_Sails]

This guy watches Fox"News" and still believes Iraq was behind 9-11 and had WMD's aimed at us with somebodies finger touching the giant red button on Jesus W. Bush did something about it...

 

Don't even waste your time. The backwashers create their own reality. Smirky W. McLush even brags about it.

[Droopy_Sails]

I am saddened that the casino is exempt - it can get pretty bad in there with all the smoke. Maybe that will be a reason for me not to lose money there!!

 

Until the day that some ships go all non-smoking (that's a long way off), I don't see them banning smoking in the casino. Stats show that smokers are also more likely to be big drinkers, and big drinkers are what they want in the casinos because they let down their guard and bet more freely.

 

It would be interesting to know if there's a measurable correlation between smoking, drinking AND gambling.

[ddoll]

There are no more public places that allow smoking around here. It was very hard for the local smoking residents to get used to, but they had no choice but to adapt and they did. Now it's much nicer to go out to restaurants and bars.

 

I'm thrilled to hear we will now be able to enjoy the public rooms on our cruise without coming out smelling like smoke.

 

Smoking in cabins will be the next to go, I'm sure. That kind of heavy cleaning gets to be expensive.

[NYCFTC]

Hallelujah! I hope the casino will be next.

 

Agreed. I could not stay in the Spirit's casino for very long because of all the cigarette smoke. I absolutely can not stand cigarette smoke around me. It literally makes me choke. :mad:

[kdg51]

Maybe this is what it takes to stop people from smoking in the non smoking areas on the ship also. Some folks think if they can move the ashtray to another area it must be OK. Many smokers don't see what difference it makes but I'm the one who can't breathe when they light up. :eek: I've had to change hotel rooms because of smoke but so far I've never had a problem on NCL. I did make a call about this before my 1st cruise and they assured me that smoke would not be a problem.

 

On my last cruise I could never get far enough away from a man who stunk and was constantly dropping ashes everywhere. They followed him around the casino with a dustpan and broom. Not only do I have a problem breathing in a smoky area but I also worry about everyone's safety when someone like this is dropping those ashes in his cabin. I've never had a balcony but now that people have talked about the smoking issue I'll stop longing for the day when we book one.

 

Some people have trouble breathing in a smoky environment and others feel that their rights are being violated when they can't smoke where the want to. Hum, the answer to this should be a no brainer but it's not.

[fsupharm77]

Just think how much more money you would have if you just quit smoking. My parents were 2 pack a day smokers/4 packs between them. 28 packs a week times $5/pack.......HMMMM.......Cruise away!!!!

[briangl]

Washington State went non-smoking within the last few years. You can't even smoke outside if you are 25 feet away from a door. This means that if you read the letter of the law smoking is banned even outside in most of downtown Seattle.

[Cosmopolitan]

2) if they expend more effort cleaning smokers' cabins, maybe a smoking surcharge is in order to pay for the extra effort? Sounds fair to me.

 

And...a surcharge for the overweight passengers who eat alot more than passengers who maintain their weight/exercise and eat less:)

 

Sounds fair to me.

[POOHISME2]

The main thing that upsets me here is not the fact they have made certain areas non-smoking, it's the fact NCL did not tell anyone of this policy that starts in 2 days! And made no compensations for the smokers.

 

Yes, I'm a smoker. I do not visit the casino because if the noise. So, If I want to socialize and drink and have a cigarette where am I to go.. To my cabin? Is that what I paid for? I can drink and smoke at home!

 

They should have made at least ONE designated SMOKING bar that is inside.

[E&B]

 

I do agree that NCL should have provided more notice and left enough window for people to cancel without penalty.

 

I LOVE that this is happening before my cruise (7/29). But I do agree that more advance notice should have been given - not just for the smokers, but for the rest of us too. There will be too many people who have taken prior cruises and may not be aware of the new regs and not happy about them. I think enforcing this rule will be very difficult in the beginning, and unfortunately ours will be one of the first cruises after the change. I don't think it will benefit me as a non-smoker for a while yet.

[Baitman19]

We're from Long Island where you can't smoke anywhere. Being liife-long non-smokers this was a blessing for us. Cruising will be an even more enjoyable experience now. The Casino will be even more smoke filled and will see less of us on future cruises.

 

NCL has been toying with this idea for more than a year now. We heard about this in 2006.

 

Happy Cruising:)

Monty

[MrLee]

So, if it's raining out and you want a cigarette you go to your room or the Casino. I spend a LOT of time in the casino but occassionally need to stretch my legs. Now I guess the only place to do it is in my cabin.

 

I would lose too mich money if I cancelled my next cruise but I'm certainly looking to change my January cruise to another line. :(