yogimax Posted September 28, 2007 #201 Share Posted September 28, 2007 All the non-smokers are asking is that they also be allowed to enjoy the cruise for which they've also paid. Well said! My guess is that non-smokers really don't care if you smoke on a designated open deck and are responsible for your ashes and butts. Interior areas of the ship are another story, however, and Royal Caribbean has wisely taken the lead to address this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrLee Posted September 28, 2007 #202 Share Posted September 28, 2007 We also have laws here that permit you from smoking on some of our beaches. Seems the smokers were not throwing those nasty little butts in their ash trays they were all over the beach:eek: And no they are not biodegradable go figure:rolleyes: Just a technicality but, the cigarettes ARE biodegradable. Filters on the other hand I don't think are. So I guess everyone should switch to non-filtered cigarettes. (Just to throw something new into the debate ;) ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted September 28, 2007 #203 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Just a technicality but, the cigarettes ARE biodegradable. Filters on the other hand I don't think are. So I guess everyone should switch to non-filtered cigarettes. (Just to throw something new into the debate ;) ) Yep it's the plastic material in the butts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted September 28, 2007 #204 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Filters make great fish food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedInStThomas1807 Posted September 28, 2007 #205 Share Posted September 28, 2007 poor fish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted September 28, 2007 #206 Share Posted September 28, 2007 poor fish Hey, they gotta eat too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted September 28, 2007 #207 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Oh my:eek: how did we survive all of these years without the government telling us how to live our own lives and raise our children. Although I agree that government steps in more than they should, I have to say that it's totally irresponsible, selfish and reprehensible to be in a confined space such as a car, and puffing away with your children in there, so I think that law is LONG overdue and I wish it were a law in all states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedInStThomas1807 Posted September 28, 2007 #208 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I agree.. Parents should NOT smoke anywhere near their kids. We always smoke outside and before we get in the car. It's just common sense to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirsty Cruiser Posted September 28, 2007 #209 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Hey, they gotta eat too... And they get a little nicotine jolt in the process. Sounds like a win-win to me:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted September 28, 2007 #210 Share Posted September 28, 2007 It's just common sense to us. You would think, wouldn't you?? Thank goodness someone has some. Everyone is talking on here about 'considerate smoking'...how can people not consider their own kids????:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurbanfan Posted September 28, 2007 #211 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Everyone is talking on here about 'considerate smoking'...how can people not consider their own kids????:confused: Sadly there are too many that don't:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedInStThomas1807 Posted September 28, 2007 #212 Share Posted September 28, 2007 One thing that really bothers me is when people bring their kids into bars when everyone there is smoking! But this state's going smoke free in bars and restaurants Oct. 1st. So I better go enjoy it while I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetocruise444 Posted September 28, 2007 #213 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I don't smoke but any of my friends who do are welcome to do so in my car, house, where ever they want to. I'm sorry but I think non-smokers make WAY too big of a deal about smokers. I don't buy into the whole second hand smoke thing either. There are too many other factors in our world that can be linked to cancer for anyone to be able to link someones cancer to only second hand smoke. Not a debate I wish to get into, just my opinion. I'd rather be stuck in a room with a smoker than with someone who wears too much perfume or cologne. That gives me a horrible headache. There aren't any laws against that though. Maybe when our government figures out a way to tax perfume wearers there will be. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted September 28, 2007 #214 Share Posted September 28, 2007 But this state's going smoke free in bars and restaurants Oct. 1st. That's manpris'ish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedInStThomas1807 Posted September 28, 2007 #215 Share Posted September 28, 2007 That's manpris'ish... I thought I told you to watch what you say if you weren't going to tell me what the heck you're talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted September 28, 2007 #216 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I thought I told you to watch what you say if you weren't going to tell me what the heck you're talking about It's code for "that's gay" :p But if I actaully say "that's gay" I get accused of being homophobic:rolleyes: FTR...I don't agree w/smoke-free bars and eats. I don't agree with not smoking in the car but i do agree with not taking kids into the bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarriedInStThomas1807 Posted September 28, 2007 #217 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Ahhh... I got ya:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskatab Posted September 28, 2007 #218 Share Posted September 28, 2007 One thing I havent seen anyone mention is the pollution that the ship is giving off. We were on the aft and the trail of smoke from the funnel went on for miles. We also had some soot one morning. Also all you people know that smoking is allowed on the ship. If it bothers you so much and your so against it then why are you cruising. I am a very considerate smoker and only smoke where its allowed. I dont smoke in the room. I even bring my own ash tray so no cigarettes are being thrown overboard. I smoke on the balcony and have had an aft the last 3 cruises. Ive seen several comments on how the cigar bar smelled....why are you in the cigar bar if you so offended by smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L2J Posted September 28, 2007 #219 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I smoke on the balcony and have had an aft the last 3 cruises. Shame on you...don't you know that the smoke from your aft cabin makes a u-turn and makes a beeline for the other balcony cabins?:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseasbabe Posted September 28, 2007 #220 Share Posted September 28, 2007 One thing I havent seen anyone mention is the pollution that the ship is giving off. We were on the aft and the trail of smoke from the funnel went on for miles. We also had some soot one morning. Also all you people know that smoking is allowed on the ship. If it bothers you so much and your so against it then why are you cruising. I am a very considerate smoker and only smoke where its allowed. I dont smoke in the room. I even bring my own ash tray so no cigarettes are being thrown overboard. I smoke on the balcony and have had an aft the last 3 cruises. Ive seen several comments on how the cigar bar smelled....why are you in the cigar bar if you so offended by smoke? Well said!!!!!! There's nothing worse than sitting next to someone in the cigar bar who is doing the "cough, cough" thing. :mad: If you don't like it, then stay out of the smoking rooms. There are plenty of other places on the ship for the non-smokers. Is the Paradise still non-smoking? Maybe the offended can sail on her.......:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskatab Posted September 28, 2007 #221 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Shame on you...don't you know that the smoke from your aft cabin makes a u-turn and makes a beeline for the other balcony cabins?:p LOL!!! Im sure someone will make this claim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted September 28, 2007 #222 Share Posted September 28, 2007 I don't smoke but any of my friends who do are welcome to do so in my car, house, where ever they want to. I'm sorry but I think non-smokers make WAY too big of a deal about smokers. I don't buy into the whole second hand smoke thing either. There are too many other factors in our world that can be linked to cancer for anyone to be able to link someones cancer to only second hand smoke. Not a debate I wish to get into, just my opinion. You don't make a big deal out of it for one of 2 reasons: A) It HONESTLY doesn't physically bother you...you don't get red eyed or a sore throat or headache or mind smelling like stale tobacco after being confined in a car with people who smoke...or B) You're just not able to voice your discontent to people so you let it go. Now, if perfume bothers you so much, would you put up with people bathed in it to ride in your car every day? If the answere is yes, then I assume that your answer to the above would be B... I don't prohibit people from smoking in my home or my car just to be a b*tch. I don't like it and I'll be darned if I'm going to have that odor in my furniture/drapes or car upholstery just to be kind to someone with this habit....I outgrew being passive quite a while ago. Mostly all my family (other than DH and kids) smoke...when I visit them, for the most part, all I can think about is getting home and into the shower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yogimax Posted September 28, 2007 #223 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Filters make great fish food. Ugh! http://www.cigarettelitter.org/index.asp?PageName=Facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garrisonl Posted September 28, 2007 #224 Share Posted September 28, 2007 Look out folks, somebody started another one. I'm glad I'm getting on the ship on Sunday. We Smoke-on the Main deck, if anyone wants to try to change rooms:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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