Does EVERYONE Smoke??? (don't flame me, please)

[LeftatGator]

Just back from the Conquest (our second time) and my wife and I could not get over how smoky the ship was. We are both sensitive to smoke (perhaps too sensitive, I will admit), but the ubiquitous smoke was overwhelming.

 

1. Our cabin smelled like a bar. Whenever we walked in we were hit with the stench of old smoke.

2. Our balcony was always awash in smoke. The three cabins forward of ours, the one below, above and aft of ours, all had people smoking. Smoke hung on our balcony constantly. We could not enjoy our balcony without smelling someone's smoke.

3. Our deck (Lido) always smelled (very strongly) of smoke. All the smoke from the Lobby (as well, I believe, as some from the casino) rose upward to the Lido deck where it just hung.

4. To go to dinner in the Renoit Dining Room, we had to go through the Lobby, which was filled with people smoking.

5. To go outside on the lobby deck, we had to go through the Lobby.

6. Three times we got into the elevator where someone was smoking.

7. To view photos on deck 4, you were pummeled with smoke coming up from the Lobby.

8. To go shopping on deck 5, there was smoke from the Lobby, from people smoking in the chairs on deck 5, and from the Casino.

9. The promenade obviously smelled like smoke because it's open to the casino.

 

I understand bars smelling like smoke. And I understand the casino smelling like smoke. But the smell everywhere on the ship was bothersome. On Thursday of the cruise my allergies were going nuts, and when I got home I had to go to the doctor. I had a really bad sinus infection, which I believe was affected by the constant stench of smoke.

 

I don't care if people smoke, but why do I have to smell it on my vacation, in my room, on my balcony that I paid for??? I didn't pay for the added blessing of someone else's smoke. It's not my fault they can't break the addiction and control themselves.

 

So that I'm not just a complainer, here are some suggestion (that I'm sure Carnival will never employ). Please note, I am not suggesting a ban on smoking.

1. Designate smoking areas that are either outside, or can be closed off (with a door- like in the bars).

2. Install a serious air filtration system in the casino (like most casinos use - where you can't even detect the smell of smoke). Install these in all the bars.

3. Prohibit smoking in the main lobby. It's the main public space and shouldn't be polluted and shouldn't cause all higher decks to smell the smoke.

4. Make one side of the ship smoking and one side non-smoking. OR, make the aft of the ship smoking, and the forward sections non-smoking.

5. Put smoke detectors in the elevators.

 

Just my thoughts. Our cruise wasn't ruined, but it was tainted a bit. We are now planning our next cruise, and I can say, I don't think it will be on Carnival as long as smoke is everywhere.

[Payd]

Just back from the Conquest (our second time) and my wife and I could not get over how smoky the ship was. We are both sensitive to smoke (perhaps too sensitive, I will admit), but the ubiquitous smoke was overwhelming.

 

1. Our cabin smelled like a bar. Whenever we walked in we were hit with the stench of old smoke.

2. Our balcony was always awash in smoke. The three cabins forward of ours, the one below, above and aft of ours, all had people smoking. Smoke hung on our balcony constantly. We could not enjoy our balcony without smelling someone's smoke.

3. Our deck (Lido) always smelled (very strongly) of smoke. All the smoke from the Lobby (as well, I believe, as some from the casino) rose upward to the Lido deck where it just hung.

4. To go to dinner in the Renoit Dining Room, we had to go through the Lobby, which was filled with people smoking.

5. To go outside on the lobby deck, we had to go through the Lobby.

6. Three times we got into the elevator where someone was smoking.

7. To view photos on deck 4, you were pummeled with smoke coming up from the Lobby.

8. To go shopping on deck 5, there was smoke from the Lobby, from people smoking in the chairs on deck 5, and from the Casino.

9. The promenade obviously smelled like smoke because it's open to the casino.

 

I understand bars smelling like smoke. And I understand the casino smelling like smoke. But the smell everywhere on the ship was bothersome. On Thursday of the cruise my allergies were going nuts, and when I got home I had to go to the doctor. I had a really bad sinus infection, which I believe was affected by the constant stench of smoke.

 

I don't care if people smoke, but why do I have to smell it on my vacation, in my room, on my balcony that I paid for??? I didn't pay for the added blessing of someone else's smoke. It's not my fault they can't break the addiction and control themselves.

 

So that I'm not just a complainer, here are some suggestion (that I'm sure Carnival will never employ). Please note, I am not suggesting a ban on smoking.

1. Designate smoking areas that are either outside, or can be closed off (with a door- like in the bars).

2. Install a serious air filtration system in the casino (like most casinos use - where you can't even detect the smell of smoke). Install these in all the bars.

3. Prohibit smoking in the main lobby. It's the main public space and shouldn't be polluted and shouldn't cause all higher decks to smell the smoke.

4. Make one side of the ship smoking and one side non-smoking. OR, make the aft of the ship smoking, and the forward sections non-smoking.

5. Put smoke detectors in the elevators.

 

Just my thoughts. Our cruise wasn't ruined, but it was tainted a bit. We are now planning our next cruise, and I can say, I don't think it will be on Carnival as long as smoke is everywhere.

 

I am an ex smoker and also notice smoke smells, not matter how strong. But, I must be missing something - I have never noticed anyone smoking in the lobby - ever - on any cruise. As for the elevators - it is against the rules, don't get on (report it if you wish), perhaps take the stairs if you can.

 

Smoking on the balconies is just the luck of the draw I guess. You must have gotten really unlucky to be so surrounded by smokers.

 

Payd:)

[crusinmama06]

My husband smokes (outside the home and cars only) so I am not overly sensitive to smoke but I can tell you, when I walked on our Sensation cruise it was like walking into a nightclub after a long night of people smoking. The air was so full of stale smoke. I had never smelled that on any cruise before.

 

I never mind cigarette smoke but for some reason, on Sensation it even got to me. :eek:

 

At one point I went into the restroom outside the dining room and there was a woman smoking in the stall. I could smell the smoke as soon as I walked in. She walked out still smoking it. Then when I came out, I noticed the cigarette sitting on the side of the sink (she did at least wet the darn thing first)

 

Of course, on the flip side...we were in the CIGAR bar and a group of woman sat down next to us at the bar and preceded to making choking sounds and waved their hands in their faces. :rolleyes:

[In2why]

Just back from the Conquest (our second time) and my wife and I could not get over how smoky the ship was. We are both sensitive to smoke (perhaps too sensitive, I will admit), but the ubiquitous smoke was overwhelming.

 

1. Our cabin smelled like a bar. Whenever we walked in we were hit with the stench of old smoke.

2. Our balcony was always awash in smoke. The three cabins forward of ours, the one below, above and aft of ours, all had people smoking. Smoke hung on our balcony constantly. We could not enjoy our balcony without smelling someone's smoke.

3. Our deck (Lido) always smelled (very strongly) of smoke. All the smoke from the Lobby (as well, I believe, as some from the casino) rose upward to the Lido deck where it just hung.

4. To go to dinner in the Renoit Dining Room, we had to go through the Lobby, which was filled with people smoking.

5. To go outside on the lobby deck, we had to go through the Lobby.

6. Three times we got into the elevator where someone was smoking.

7. To view photos on deck 4, you were pummeled with smoke coming up from the Lobby.

8. To go shopping on deck 5, there was smoke from the Lobby, from people smoking in the chairs on deck 5, and from the Casino.

9. The promenade obviously smelled like smoke because it's open to the casino.

 

I understand bars smelling like smoke. And I understand the casino smelling like smoke. But the smell everywhere on the ship was bothersome. On Thursday of the cruise my allergies were going nuts, and when I got home I had to go to the doctor. I had a really bad sinus infection, which I believe was affected by the constant stench of smoke.

 

I don't care if people smoke, but why do I have to smell it on my vacation, in my room, on my balcony that I paid for??? I didn't pay for the added blessing of someone else's smoke. It's not my fault they can't break the addiction and control themselves.

 

So that I'm not just a complainer, here are some suggestion (that I'm sure Carnival will never employ). Please note, I am not suggesting a ban on smoking.

1. Designate smoking areas that are either outside, or can be closed off (with a door- like in the bars).

2. Install a serious air filtration system in the casino (like most casinos use - where you can't even detect the smell of smoke). Install these in all the bars.

3. Prohibit smoking in the main lobby. It's the main public space and shouldn't be polluted and shouldn't cause all higher decks to smell the smoke.

4. Make one side of the ship smoking and one side non-smoking. OR, make the aft of the ship smoking, and the forward sections non-smoking.

5. Put smoke detectors in the elevators.

 

Just my thoughts. Our cruise wasn't ruined, but it was tainted a bit. We are now planning our next cruise, and I can say, I don't think it will be on Carnival as long as smoke is everywhere.

 

I smoke.....but I don't like smoky areas either. I have zero problem with smoking areas and even not smoking in cabins. I feel bad that you had a balcony that you couldn't use....and in that instance I would be an offender. I AM going to smoke on my balcony. I think anywhere they allow smoking should have a decent ventilation system and I am sorry that your experience was so bad. As for your cabin it is my understanding that you can have the room steward clean the carpets and bedding if your room smells.

As for the highlighted part....I don't want to control myself and I don't want to stop smoking. It is legal, puts bread on my table and I enjoy it. But I will out of respect for others try to compromise whenever possible with those around me. Even outside I ask others if smoke bothers them before lighting up, and since we all have our pet peeves my smoking peeve is that people throw butts out car windows or all over the place. Have fun on your next cruise...I do believe there are cruise lines that restrict smoking more than others.

[above sea level cruiser]

OMG I smell smoke!.....or hot air.......or.....?....Are trolls flammable?:confused: (not flame-a-ble - flammable).

[Lady Patriot]

Of course, on the flip side...we were in the CIGAR bar and a group of woman sat down next to us at the bar and preceded to making choking sounds and waved their hands in their faces.

 

Now THAT'S anal!!

 

DH plans to visit the cigar bar on the Sun, and I would love to be a fly on the wall if some moron did that to him. He has a low tolerance for that kind of stupidity.

[GoinCruisin]

I've never seen smoking in the lobby either (wait, I take that back, they used to allow it, but not in several years it seems)

 

Did you mention to your steward the smell in your cabin? Most people are able to get them to use their magic stuff and it really makes a difference...

 

I think this is going to be a big problem for RCCL when they go to no smoking in the staterooms... more and more smokers will be booking balconies...

 

I'm sorry you had a tough time :(

[crusinmama06]

Have fun on your next cruise...I do believe there are cruise lines that restrict smoking more than others.

 

Yep, RCCL is making ALL cabins non-smoking on Jan 1, 2008. Except for the balcony. And if they change THAT, I will be :mad:

[crusinmama06]

Now THAT'S anal!!

 

DH plans to visit the cigar bar on the Sun, and I would love to be a fly on the wall if some moron did that to him. He has a low tolerance for that kind of stupidity.

 

Oh I was mad. I said "THIS IS A CIGAR BAR. THERE IS GOING TO BE SMOKE IN THE CIGAR BAR!" :mad:

 

I mean it was cigar bar with cigars for sale and the only thing in the menu was, guess what, you guessed it, CIGARS. :rolleyes:

 

Of course, one of the women in the party sat there and argued with the bartender for an hour because someone spilled her drink at one of the dance clubs and she expected the bartender to refill her drink for FREE. :rolleyes:

 

So those women were delusional to begin with.

[Rob42]

Just back from the Conquest (our second time) and my wife and I could not get over how smoky the ship was. We are both sensitive to smoke (perhaps too sensitive, I will admit), but the ubiquitous smoke was overwhelming.

 

1. Our cabin smelled like a bar. Whenever we walked in we were hit with the stench of old smoke.

2. Our balcony was always awash in smoke. The three cabins forward of ours, the one below, above and aft of ours, all had people smoking. Smoke hung on our balcony constantly. We could not enjoy our balcony without smelling someone's smoke.

3. Our deck (Lido) always smelled (very strongly) of smoke. All the smoke from the Lobby (as well, I believe, as some from the casino) rose upward to the Lido deck where it just hung.

4. To go to dinner in the Renoit Dining Room, we had to go through the Lobby, which was filled with people smoking.

5. To go outside on the lobby deck, we had to go through the Lobby.

6. Three times we got into the elevator where someone was smoking.

7. To view photos on deck 4, you were pummeled with smoke coming up from the Lobby.

8. To go shopping on deck 5, there was smoke from the Lobby, from people smoking in the chairs on deck 5, and from the Casino.

9. The promenade obviously smelled like smoke because it's open to the casino.

 

I understand bars smelling like smoke. And I understand the casino smelling like smoke. But the smell everywhere on the ship was bothersome. On Thursday of the cruise my allergies were going nuts, and when I got home I had to go to the doctor. I had a really bad sinus infection, which I believe was affected by the constant stench of smoke.

 

I don't care if people smoke, but why do I have to smell it on my vacation, in my room, on my balcony that I paid for??? I didn't pay for the added blessing of someone else's smoke. It's not my fault they can't break the addiction and control themselves.

 

So that I'm not just a complainer, here are some suggestion (that I'm sure Carnival will never employ). Please note, I am not suggesting a ban on smoking.

1. Designate smoking areas that are either outside, or can be closed off (with a door- like in the bars).

2. Install a serious air filtration system in the casino (like most casinos use - where you can't even detect the smell of smoke). Install these in all the bars.

3. Prohibit smoking in the main lobby. It's the main public space and shouldn't be polluted and shouldn't cause all higher decks to smell the smoke.

4. Make one side of the ship smoking and one side non-smoking. OR, make the aft of the ship smoking, and the forward sections non-smoking.

5. Put smoke detectors in the elevators.

 

Just my thoughts. Our cruise wasn't ruined, but it was tainted a bit. We are now planning our next cruise, and I can say, I don't think it will be on Carnival as long as smoke is everywhere.

 

Every non-smoker out there can somehow come up with the coment that smoke just hit them in the face and ruined everything. I sit here wondering why they don't see the airborne allergins that are attacting their bodies in every day life. I don't hear near as much from the people that where unlucky enough to contract Norvo on a cruise ship. People just feel the need to complain about something...anything that makes them feel better for the moment.

 

A person that is on a cruise ship on a balcony that Claims they can smell smoke when the ship is doing 22 knots is just full of it. Go ahead try it...take your favorite Yankie Candle light it and then put a fan on high....smells good right? Wrong! Get a life be happy and stop trying to pass your phobia onto every other American that has the same rights as you.

[cmsmuse]

Just back from the Conquest (our second time) and my wife and I could not get over how smoky the ship was. We are both sensitive to smoke (perhaps too sensitive, I will admit), but the ubiquitous smoke was overwhelming.

 

1. Our cabin smelled like a bar. Whenever we walked in we were hit with the stench of old smoke.

2. Our balcony was always awash in smoke. The three cabins forward of ours, the one below, above and aft of ours, all had people smoking. Smoke hung on our balcony constantly. We could not enjoy our balcony without smelling someone's smoke.

3. Our deck (Lido) always smelled (very strongly) of smoke. All the smoke from the Lobby (as well, I believe, as some from the casino) rose upward to the Lido deck where it just hung.

4. To go to dinner in the Renoit Dining Room, we had to go through the Lobby, which was filled with people smoking.

5. To go outside on the lobby deck, we had to go through the Lobby.

6. Three times we got into the elevator where someone was smoking.

7. To view photos on deck 4, you were pummeled with smoke coming up from the Lobby.

8. To go shopping on deck 5, there was smoke from the Lobby, from people smoking in the chairs on deck 5, and from the Casino.

9. The promenade obviously smelled like smoke because it's open to the casino.

 

I understand bars smelling like smoke. And I understand the casino smelling like smoke. But the smell everywhere on the ship was bothersome. On Thursday of the cruise my allergies were going nuts, and when I got home I had to go to the doctor. I had a really bad sinus infection, which I believe was affected by the constant stench of smoke.

 

I don't care if people smoke, but why do I have to smell it on my vacation, in my room, on my balcony that I paid for??? I didn't pay for the added blessing of someone else's smoke. It's not my fault they can't break the addiction and control themselves.

 

So that I'm not just a complainer, here are some suggestion (that I'm sure Carnival will never employ). Please note, I am not suggesting a ban on smoking.

1. Designate smoking areas that are either outside, or can be closed off (with a door- like in the bars).

2. Install a serious air filtration system in the casino (like most casinos use - where you can't even detect the smell of smoke). Install these in all the bars.

3. Prohibit smoking in the main lobby. It's the main public space and shouldn't be polluted and shouldn't cause all higher decks to smell the smoke.

4. Make one side of the ship smoking and one side non-smoking. OR, make the aft of the ship smoking, and the forward sections non-smoking.

5. Put smoke detectors in the elevators.

 

Just my thoughts. Our cruise wasn't ruined, but it was tainted a bit. We are now planning our next cruise, and I can say, I don't think it will be on Carnival as long as smoke is everywhere.

 

I'm going to get into trouble for this :rolleyes: You know, what really gets me is people who enjoy smoking, and yet when they're in their cars they hang the cancer stick out of the window so it wafts into my car! People should smoke in their cabins with the doors shut if they like it soooo much!

[Wennfred]

I don't smoke because I tend to burn the front of my hair and my eye brows when I light up a cig on the stove. :rolleyes:

 

 

Fred

[cmsmuse]

Every non-smoker out there can somehow come up with the coment that smoke just hit them in the face and ruined everything. I sit here wondering why they don't see the airborne allergins that are attacting their bodies in every day life. I don't hear near as much from the people that where unlucky enough to contract Norvo on a cruise ship. People just feel the need to complain about something...anything that makes them feel better for the moment.

 

A person that is on a cruise ship on a balcony that Claims they can smell smoke when the ship is doing 22 knots is just full of it. Go ahead try it...take your favorite Yankie Candle light it and then put a fan on high....smells good right? Wrong! Get a life be happy and stop trying to pass your phobia onto every other American that has the same rights as you.

 

People who don't smoke are so healthy they can smell smoke when someone passes them on the highway...true!

[tnrnchick74]

I smoke.....but I don't like smoky areas either. I have zero problem with smoking areas and even not smoking in cabins. I feel bad that you had a balcony that you couldn't use....and in that instance I would be an offender. I AM going to smoke on my balcony. I think anywhere they allow smoking should have a decent ventilation system and I am sorry that your experience was so bad. As for your cabin it is my understanding that you can have the room steward clean the carpets and bedding if your room smells.

As for the highlighted part....I don't want to control myself and I don't want to stop smoking. It is legal, puts bread on my table and I enjoy it. But I will out of respect for others try to compromise whenever possible with those around me. Even outside I ask others if smoke bothers them before lighting up, and since we all have our pet peeves my smoking peeve is that people throw butts out car windows or all over the place. Have fun on your next cruise...I do believe there are cruise lines that restrict smoking more than others.

 

Thank your for being a polite person & respectful smoker. I posted in another thread that I have asthma and have a hard time with smoke. BUT I do respect the right for smokers to smoke. If I'm at a bar and someone is blowing towards me, I will either move or politely ask them to blow it the other way. A respectful and nice request has RARELY been rejected. I also "suck it up" if I'm in a place where smoking is the "norm" - like the casino.

 

So thanks to all the respectful smokers out there. I will respect your rights and you respect mine!

[GoinCruisin]

People who don't smoke are so healthy they can smell smoke when someone passes them on the highway...true!

 

Just as I know many smokers that have bad health (not always caused by smoking), I know PLENTY of non smokers that are not healthy... I know non smokers that died before the age of 20, and I've known smokers that lived well into their 90's. I know you were trying to make a point, but not all non smokers are healthy...

[Sandi149]

My husband smokes (outside the home and cars only) so I am not overly sensitive to smoke but I can tell you, when I walked on our Sensation cruise it was like walking into a nightclub after a long night of people smoking. The air was so full of stale smoke. I had never smelled that on any cruise before.

 

I never mind cigarette smoke but for some reason, on Sensation it even got to me. :eek:

 

At one point I went into the restroom outside the dining room and there was a woman smoking in the stall. I could smell the smoke as soon as I walked in. She walked out still smoking it. Then when I came out, I noticed the cigarette sitting on the side of the sink (she did at least wet the darn thing first)

 

Of course, on the flip side...we were in the CIGAR bar and a group of woman sat down next to us at the bar and preceded to making choking sounds and waved their hands in their faces. :rolleyes:

 

Did you say anything to the women in the Cigar bar? I would have been mad since it is a smoking section. I am a smoker, hubby is an ex-smoker but smokes cigars now and he liked to have a nice stogie after dinner with a drink. If someone gave us dirty looks about smoking in a designated smoking area, I would have said something.

[Duffys wife 1957]

lol.... r u kidding me...I can smell cigarette smoke if someone is in a car in front of me smoking with the windows down..The smoke literally comes in my car through the vent.. The reason you can't smell it is because you smoke.. I think that in the future every public place will be smoke free.. Whether it is a popular decision or not.. I also think that it is a personal decision..(as long as the air I am breathing is smoke free) Everyone should be able to make their own decisions, so a smoking section, rooms included should be an option for the smokers and a non smoking section, rooms included for them. I am sure non smokers and smokers alike wouldn't have a problem with that.:)

[cmsmuse]

lol.... r u kidding me...I can smell cigarette smoke if someone is in a car in front of me smoking with the windows down..The smoke literally comes in my car through the vent.. The reason you can't smell it is because you smoke.. I think that in the future every public place will be smoke free.. Whether it is a popular decision or not.. I also think that it is a personal decision..(as long as the air I am breathing is smoke free) Everyone should be able to make their own decisions' date=' so a smoking section, rooms included should be an option for the smokers and a non smoking section, rooms included for them. I am sure non smokers and smokers alike wouldn't have a problem with that.:) [/color']

 

Beautifully said Duff's wife...;)

[Duffys wife 1957]

Thank you ;)

[cathyz]

One good thing about living in California, there is virtually no smoking in any public place and in some towns not even on the street now or in multi-unit apartment buildings. In our rather large group of friends there is 1 smoker and he's very polite about it.

[Snoozeman]

...I have never noticed anyone smoking in the lobby - ever - on any cruise.

 

I've never seen smoking in the lobby either (wait, I take that back, they used to allow it, but not in several years it seems)

 

They do allow smoking on the port side of the lobby (next to doors going on the deck) on the Conquest. Always have. And there were a lot of people smoking there last week.

 

I do agree that they should NOT allow smoking in the lobby/atrium area at any time, but they do.

[Illinoisgal]

I'm going to get into trouble for this :rolleyes: You know, what really gets me is people who enjoy smoking, and yet when they're in their cars they hang the cancer stick out of the window so it wafts into my car! People should smoke in their cabins with the doors shut if they like it soooo much!

 

I dont care about if the windows are up or down but I HATE it when the used up Cig comes sailing towards my car when it has been flicked out a window. WHY do SOMe people do that ? Littering and trying to catch me on fire ? :)

[LAX2???]

I wish they would make certain areas smoking rooms, otheres non smoking. On the conquest, no matter what time I went out on my balcony to smoke, someone would start lously coughing and trying to make a point (yes, I know.) That isnt comfortable for any of us. I do feel bad about it. I paid for a balcony so I could smoke, they paid so they could enjoy it without the death cloud nailing them in the face. I think there should be nonsmoking rooms and clubson one half, and then smoking rooms and clubs on the other. Make it easier on all of us. :) Oh, and Carnival - stop making people walk through the smoky casino! Not fair to the non-smokers (and on that note please dont make the casino all non-smoking!) :D

[Mikel1733]

Like it or not everyone including crew and passengers are smoking on the ship. Some smokers are actively smoking and the balance are passively smoking. There is no way to bypass this smoke if you move around the ship. In your room the steward may be able to elimate the visible odor yet the contaminants still filter thru the air in the room. Obviously the level of 2nd hand smoke get greater when you use the casino and the clubs that allow smoking. Its a no win situation for folks who have asthma and allergies.

[Peto]

I don't want to control myself and I don't want to stop smoking. It is legal, puts bread on my table and I enjoy it.

 

 

Just curios. How does smoking 'put bread on your table' ? Are you a cancer specialist ?