No smoking in cabins & veranda

[greeneg]

Actually, they do enforce the no carry-on liquor policy, if they find it. Not to say that they always find it, but if they do.......

[STXCruisers]

Even though the passenger smoked, I thought the fire was ruled to be electrical........in the end.

 

AS for smoking, It should be allowed outside on the verandas, but not in the staterooms...IMHO.

 

IDave:eek:

 

Dave, I must respectfully disagree with allowing smoking on the verandahs.

 

Hubby and I are nonsmokers and on a recent cruise we were unable to enjoy the verandah on our Sky Suite (for which we paid dearly) much of the time due to smokers in the next cabin. They not only smoked on the verandah, but left their door open when smoking inside the cabin. The smoke blew directly onto our verandah.

 

Doris

[Drew B]

There should be designated smoking areas - period. IMHO.

 

 

There ARE designated smoking areas. For the moment, though, balconies and staterooms are included on that list of designated smoking areas. Your humble opinion, I assume, is that balconies should no longer be designated smoking areas. I don't disagree. It's a semantic difference, but I think a difference that has some meaning.

[usha]

Drew, I agree wholeheartedly; it is a difference that has meaning.

How nice it would be to simply enjoy the clean, fresh ocean air on our balcony?:)

[Ttowntreasures]

Even though the passenger smoked, I thought the fire was ruled to be electrical........in the end.

 

AS for smoking, It should be allowed outside on the verandas, but not in the staterooms...IMHO.

 

I think there could be other causes as well...Travel irons, curling irons left plugged in, 18 appliances plugged ito 1 extension cord, candles.....and of course CHILDREN playing with matches or lighters...( which is a good reason children shouldn'r cruise at all).

 

AS for an update, I haven't heard of one, except for the fact that the AZAMARA ships are non-smoking in allpublic areas except for 2 designated areas.

 

Dave:eek:

 

I just spoke to Celebrity regarding this - smoking is allowed in all staterooms and verandahs - also in designated smoking areas.

 

Kathy

[Ttowntreasures]

I doubt if it was the same person but they posted the same rumor on Princess threads, I guess they think if they say it enough times it will be a truth! When they outlaw smoking world-wide (like Prohibition worked too), all us scum-sucking smokers will have to stay home or go to the smoke-easy to get a cigarette and have the Untouchables come busting through the door to tell me how to live my life! For all you whiners, WAAAAAHHHHH! You want some cheese with that! By the way, for the cigar-smoking gorilla, he should have followed the rules and gone to the designated areas for cigar smoking but I guess Elliot Ness wasn't there to bust him. There are inconsiderate people smokers and nonsmokers everywhere and all your whining won't solve that one.:rolleyes:

 

You all have a nice cruise!

 

Funny post - ever notice that when smoking was allowed in restaurants and there were no tables in non-smoking that 99% of non-smokers would take "smoking" or "first available"???

 

Never understood that.

[Captain Jake]

Drew, I agree wholeheartedly; it is a difference that has meaning.

How nice it would be to simply enjoy the clean, fresh ocean air on our balcony?:)

 

Be patient.The time is near(IMHO).The industry is swinging in that direction.If X want to be truly an upscale cruiseline that will take the steps the cruiselines that are truly upscale are taking,IMHO---------BT

[DC2OC]

Drew, I agree wholeheartedly; it is a difference that has meaning.

How nice it would be to simply enjoy the clean, fresh ocean air on our balcony?:)

 

The new ships have a spa deck,an indication of X attempt to attract the health concious cruiser.I feel non-smoking cabins including balconies are around the corner.There is a market of reepeat cruisers who want something more than a drunken pigout...........Frank:)

[Drew B]

It would be so easy to make one side smoking and one side non-smoking. That would be better for BOTH smokers and non-smokers than the current situation.

[Cruising Bill]

I called Celebrity and asked an agent what he knew of upcoming smoking rule changes. He said that in 2008 (but didn't know when in 2008), all cabins and MOST verandas would be non-smoking, and that there would be a small smoking area near or on the pool area, as well as one lounge.

 

I asked what he meant by MOST verandas, and he said a certain area on one side would allow smoking on verandas, presumably toward the rear.

 

Take it for what its worth, since clearly there is some conflicting info floating about!

[sasset]

Funny post - ever notice that when smoking was allowed in restaurants and there were no tables in non-smoking that 99% of non-smokers would take "smoking" or "first available"???

 

Never understood that.

 

99%, huh?

 

Regards

[dkjretired]

If they do announce this policy, you might be able to get some cabins open up that previously had been closed out on certain cruises. When Azamara came out and they announced the changes, a lot of people cancelled their bookings that they had made when they thought they were going on the Zenith.

[dkjretired]

It would be so easy to make one side smoking and one side non-smoking. That would be better for BOTH smokers and non-smokers than the current situation.

 

Not as easy as you think, the one thing they don't want to do is sail with empty cabins. Below is a quote from an excellent article written by cruise critic.

 

It's an issue of "spoilage" (the industry's lingo for unsold cabins) that keeps them from dedicating non-smoking rooms on ships. "It would present an inventory mess," says a spokesperson for CLIA, the cruise industry's official trade association. "The cruise lines' yield management people want the ships to sail full at all times; you can't do that if you set aside non-smoking rooms."

[Susan-M]

Funny post - ever notice that when smoking was allowed in restaurants and there were no tables in non-smoking that 99% of non-smokers would take "smoking" or "first available"???

 

 

We were in the "1%" that chose not to eat at the restaurant if "non-smoking" wasn't available, but whether you were in "smoking" or "non-smoking" didn't seem to make much difference in the amount of second hand smoke that you were inhaling.

[Drew B]

Not as easy as you think, the one thing they don't want to do is sail with empty cabins. Below is a quote from an excellent article written by cruise critic.

 

It's an issue of "spoilage" (the industry's lingo for unsold cabins) that keeps them from dedicating non-smoking rooms on ships. "It would present an inventory mess," says a spokesperson for CLIA, the cruise industry's official trade association. "The cruise lines' yield management people want the ships to sail full at all times; you can't do that if you set aside non-smoking rooms."

 

I was under the impression that way more than half of the people who cruised were non-smokers. If that's the case, then I'm not sure why this change would lead to unsold cabins. It would be much easier for smokers to get their preference than for non-smokers to get theirs (although better than now, when 100% of non-smokers cannot get a non-smoking cabin).

 

 

I called Celebrity and asked an agent what he knew of upcoming smoking rule changes. He said that in 2008 (but didn't know when in 2008), all cabins and MOST verandas would be non-smoking, and that there would be a small smoking area near or on the pool area, as well as one lounge.

 

And, I would assume, the casino. If they make the casino non-smoking, they will lose a lot of money.

[CatServants]

OK - I called X this AM - was told that no policy change had been handed down yet for X ONLY RC.

 

I just called again - this time I mentioned that I have an existing reservation and gave the ID #. She actually started listing the various lounges, which will/will not allow smoking beginning early 08. Sorry guys, I don't write that fast! I know she said the dr (big surprise there!:rolleyes:) and the theater will be non-smoking. I had to stop her so I could ask about the cabins/verandahs. She said...NO smoking in ANY cabin, but smoking will be allowed on ALL verandahs. I'll bet if I called again I would get a third answer!:rolleyes:

 

I have to wonder if X is going to be as sloppy designating their smoking policy as they are with their dress code policy. I love X, but there seems to be a real inability to list EXACTLY what a policy is and then stick to it.:rolleyes:

 

Anyway...to the smokers and non-smokers alike... Happy cruising!:D

 

Denise

[crazybus]

Funny post - ever notice that when smoking was allowed in restaurants and there were no tables in non-smoking that 99% of non-smokers would take "smoking" or "first available"???

 

Never understood that.

 

Yea, and then complain about the smoke!:eek:

[Drew B]

I love X, but there seems to be a real inability to list EXACTLY what a policy is and then stick to it.:rolleyes:

 

 

I know, right? What is that about? It would actually be easier and more cost-effective to have clear and consistent policies. I see no good reason for the confusion and misinformation...

[Shipyard Cruiser]

I have to wonder if X is going to be as sloppy designating their smoking policy as they are with their dress code policy. I love X, but there seems to be a real inability to list EXACTLY what a policy is and then stick to it.:rolleyes:Denise

 

And we all know how much people out here love talking about "The Rules".

 

Lucky for the rest of us that "The Rules " never seem to be a big deal on board.

[Shipyard Cruiser]

I know, right? What is that about? It would actually be easier and more cost-effective to have clear and consistent policies. I see no good reason for the confusion and misinformation...

 

Could it be that some of us just don't think most of this stuff is a big deal.

 

Can't be that:)

[usha]

I emailed Captains Club with the question about smoking in staterooms & verandas as of Feb, 2008, since they seem to be better informed than the Celebrity/Royal Caribbean customer service people, (and lots, lots more cordial). Wonder what their response will be?:o

[Drew B]

Could it be that some of us just don't think most of this stuff is a big deal.

 

Can't be that:)

 

I don't see the relevance...

 

If THEY didn't think it was a big deal (or if they thought that enough of their customers didn't think it was a big deal), they wouldn't have any rules. Rules are limiting and difficult/expensive to enforce. If they are going to bother having rules, why not have CLEAR rules that are in writing and the same everywhere you look? Even if you think it is not a big deal, do you see any advantage for you (or for anybody else) to have vague and conflicting information?

[Shipyard Cruiser]

I don't see the relevance...

 

If THEY didn't think it was a big deal (or if they thought that enough of their customers didn't think it was a big deal), they wouldn't have any rules. Rules are limiting and difficult/expensive to enforce. If they are going to bother having rules, why not have CLEAR rules that are in writing and the same everywhere you look? Even if you think it is not a big deal, do you see any advantage for you (or for anybody else) to have vague and conflicting information?

 

On the cruises I've been on smoking and non-smoking areas have been very clear.

 

As a matter of fact I've seen very few smokers at all.

 

Don't see the problem.

 

If "The Rules" change I'm sure they will let you(and me) know.

 

No big deal.

[CatServants]

Could it be that some of us just don't think most of this stuff is a big deal.

 

Can't be that:)

 

 

 

No, Shipyard Cruiser, I don't think that's true at all!:o Nor do I believe that of you.

 

You and I have been on enough dress code threads together for you to know (assuming you've ever read any of my posts) that while I stick to the dress code, the only thing I require you (or any other pax) wear is a smile because you're having a great time ( other than that the 'moon' is the limit!;)). I absolutely agree that when discussing dress codes we're not debating the fate of the universe - smoking, and rules/regulations in general, is a whole different animal.

 

I don't smoke - I truly and sincerely hate smoking:mad:, I wish everyone would quit, it's BAD for you - but I don't hate the smoker, nor do I think there's no place in the world or on a cruise for smokers. I think it's very important to smokers and non-smokers alike to know where they can find their own form of safety.

 

From reading your posts, I've often thought that individuality and independence were pretty big deals to you. Smoking policies - whether allowing or disallowing - let us all know WHERE we can indulge those bits of ourselves which may bother others. Smoking involves the health of the smoker and the people around the smoker, a monstrous addiction, and even personal pleasure/taste/comfort. I think smoking policies/rules/regulations are a "big deal" when measured by anyone's yardstick - come on...don't you?;)

 

Happy cruising to all of you...smokers and non-smokers alike!:D

 

Denise

[dkjretired]

I was under the impression that way more than half of the people who cruised were non-smokers. If that's the case, then I'm not sure why this change would lead to unsold cabins. It would be much easier for smokers to get their preference than for non-smokers to get theirs (although better than now, when 100% of non-smokers cannot get a non-smoking cabin).

 

 

 

 

And, I would assume, the casino. If they make the casino non-smoking, they will lose a lot of money.

 

Drew:

 

But the demographics are that although someone may not smoke their husband or wife may or may not. Same goes for traveling companions or maybe large groups from countries that seem to encourage smoking. If you look at it realistically, it is a nightmore for the cruiselines and their goal of keeping people in the cabins.