Does Carnival have no Smoking Cabins

[franncos]

Can someone please tell me if Carnival has no smoking cabins?

[lukegr]

Can someone please tell me if Carnival has no smoking cabins?

 

no, unfortunately. the paradise used to be non-smoking, but then it changed to smoking for some reason.. not sure why.

[chitown cruisers]

They don't have smoking restrictions, but what ever they do to clean, works well. I'm from a non smoking family and never had a problem noticing any smoky smell in a cabin.

[Kurbanfan]

Not at this time.

[caribbean dreams]

You should have no problems in the cabin, never smelled smoke, i wish some hotels would use the same spray as Carnival.

[Yellow_Jacket]

the paradise used to be non-smoking, but then it changed to smoking for some reason.. not sure why.

 

It is an intelligence thing... Non-smokers don't drink as much or gamble as much as smokers, and CCL was losing a fortune in revenues as a result.

[silentbob007]

It is an intelligence thing... Non-smokers don't drink as much or gamble as much as smokers, and CCL was losing a fortune in revenues as a result.

 

If you want to generalize, fine, but is it necessary to make fun of people who take part in a legal activity?

[funone2]

It is an intelligence thing... Non-smokers don't drink as much or gamble as much as smokers, and CCL was losing a fortune in revenues as a result.

 

I disagree ... non-smokers do drink and gamble as much, it's just that they can't deal with all the smoke in the bar or casino so they can't stay there as long. So, it appears that non-smokers don't.

 

Believe me, if the ship was non-smoking, there would still be plenty of people in the bars and casinos. I was on the Paradise in 2002 when it was non-smoking and the bars and casinos were always packed.:p

[huxlemo]

Our cabin on our last cruise smelled disgusting. Obviously heavy smokers were in the cabin before us. I asked our cabin steward if the cabin could be sprayed. That was done and it still stunk. The pillows smelled, even with fresh pillow cases. The comforter smelled. When I took a shower, I could smell smoke. It was the shower curtain. We were very disappointed that we had to spend a week smelling cigarette smoke in our cabin.

[johnritt]

I disagree ... non-smokers do drink and gamble as much, it's just that they can't deal with all the smoke in the bar or casino so they can't stay there as long. So, it appears that non-smokers don't.

 

Believe me, if the ship was non-smoking, there would still be plenty of people in the bars and casinos. I was on the Paradise in 2002 when it was non-smoking and the bars and casinos were always packed.:p

 

If I remember correctly, the Paradise was a less expensive cruise when it was a nonsmoking ship (compared to other similer Carnival cruises).

 

If the Paradise made money as a nonsmoking ship, why did they change it?

[LHP]

If I remember correctly, the Paradise was a less expensive cruise when it was a nonsmoking ship (compared to other similer Carnival cruises).

 

If the Paradise made money as a nonsmoking ship, why did they change it?

 

The Paradise had problems booking up for several reasons:

 

1. With no smoking, this eliminated groups. Groups are the lifeblood of any cruise line. Even small family groups usually have one smoker...so they went else where. One small change - 2 smoking areas like Oceania would be made the difference.

 

2. They stuck it at the furtherest point in the United States at a time when more and more people are driving to their cruises. Had they put it more centrally located...even in Tampa, with the above listed Oceania change...it would still be here today!!!

 

BTW, the Paradise always MADE MONEY. It never LOST MONEY. It did not make ENOUGH money. It fell short of the MARS of the other ships and corporate expectations.

[LHP]

Our cabin on our last cruise smelled disgusting. Obviously heavy smokers were in the cabin before us. I asked our cabin steward if the cabin could be sprayed. That was done and it still stunk. The pillows smelled, even with fresh pillow cases. The comforter smelled. When I took a shower, I could smell smoke. It was the shower curtain. We were very disappointed that we had to spend a week smelling cigarette smoke in our cabin.

 

Sorry to hear of this. Perhaps you were unlucky enough to get a cabin of cigar smokers.

 

This does not happen often...but it can happen and if it does the solution is simple.

 

Give the Cabin Steward this list to perform while you are out and about exploring the ship:

 

1. Shampoo the carpets. A light shampoo will do it and it dries in 3 hours.

 

2. Change out EVERYTHING (including mattresses if it is bad enough)

curtains, shower curtains, duvets, pillows ...the works

 

3. Spray their magic spray again!!

 

4. Then go to the Purser's Desk with the request you have given the Cabin Steward and tell them why you have made this request. If they see all the extra work their folks are having to do, maybe they will enforce the no cigar in the cabin rule. The Capers clearly state certain locations for cigar smoking with the large bold print ONLY.

 

Also remember there are other alternatives. Oceania only allows smoking in 2 areas of the ship and not in the caibins or on the balconies.

 

RCCL (starting January 1st) will not allow smoking in the cabins. Only on the balconies.

 

Other cruise lines are following suit.

[johnritt]

The Paradise had problems booking up for several reasons:

 

1. With no smoking, this eliminated groups. Groups are the lifeblood of any cruise line. Even small family groups usually have one smoker...so they went else where. One small change - 2 smoking areas like Oceania would be made the difference.

 

2. They stuck it at the furtherest point in the United States at a time when more and more people are driving to their cruises. Had they put it more centrally located...even in Tampa, with the above listed Oceania change...it would still be here today!!!

 

BTW, the Paradise always MADE MONEY. It never LOST MONEY. It did not make ENOUGH money. It fell short of the MARS of the other ships and corporate expectations.

 

Combine point 2 with point 1 and I would agree. Severely restrict smoking but not totaly prohibit it and move the Paradise to a centrally located port, and I think it would be a popular cruise.

 

IMHO, not making enough money in the long term is not making money.

[AllenF]

I have never had a problem with my cabin smelling like smoke but on our last cruise (we had an aft balcony) I did smell a VERY strong cig smell in the hallway when walking back to the cabin there must have been 2 or 3 cabins that had people who smoked 24/7. This was a 12 day cruise and smelled like that every day I walked past so I know who ever had those cabins next had to smell cig smoke.

[Rirruto]

I didn't even know smoking was allowed in the cabins. I've never smelled any hint of smoke in any of my past cabins. Good job stewards.

 

And I drink and gamble plenty :D

[LHP]

Combine point 2 with point 1 and I would agree. Severely restrict smoking but not totaly prohibit it and move the Paradise to a centrally located port, and I think it would be a popular cruise.

 

IMHO, not making enough money in the long term is not making money.[/QUOTE]

 

 

It wasn't a matter of "barely getting by". The Paradise MARS were more than half of the expected. But apparently that wasn't "enough".

 

I am certain that corporations here in the US would LOVE to be able to decide "how much profit" is enough (ie doing away with all the health and safety restrictions that eat into their bottom line). But thankfully, they are not allowed to do so.

 

Unfortunately, ships registered in foreign countries do not have such restrictions.

[BobBeaSea]

It's only a matter of time as to when Carnival will end smoking in the cabins, following RCI's change of policy. If they follow RCI's lead, smoking will still be permitted on balconies. I am a smoker but I can see this coming, perhaps soon. All the lines are treading carefully as smokers, who only make up approx. 21% of the population, travel with non smokers, so it's not just 21% who are affected, it's a great deal more people. This is why you will never see fleet wide smoking bans on mass market cruise lines.

[LHP]

I have never had a problem with my cabin smelling like smoke but on our last cruise (we had an aft balcony) I did smell a VERY strong cig smell in the hallway when walking back to the cabin there must have been 2 or 3 cabins that had people who smoked 24/7. This was a 12 day cruise and smelled like that every day I walked past so I know who ever had those cabins next had to smell cig smoke.

 

On the Fantasy in August, every morning we would be greeted to cigarette smoke from 3 cabins down coming under our door. Apparently, they were "cracking their cabin door" to air out their cabin into the hallway.

(which is a violation since the Capers clearly state no smoking in the hallways) But we all know how efficient Carnival is about enforcing their rules. :rolleyes:

 

Thankfully, after I isolated the problem, I made sure we had a towel under the door every night before we went to bed.

 

The problem you described (and we experienced) and the cost and time to "reclean" cabins is probably why RCCL implemented the no smoking in cabins rule starting January 1st. But that is just a guess....

[firefly333]

Disney and Royal Caribbean starting in 2008 do not allow smoking in the cabins, only out on your balcony. Im wondering if this is going to make the balconys more expensive than ever since smokers will need to book balconys on RCI or walk out of their cabins to catch a smoke.

 

People on Disney have been complaining for years their balcony was ruined because of heavy smoking from their neighbors on the sides, but since they have to go out on the balcony....? Im still thinking this problem will be heard a lot more on RCI when they start making the switch over. Lots posted they were going to cancel, but as predicted the hub bub died down now.

[LHP]

It's only a matter of time as to when Carnival will end smoking in the cabins, following RCI's change of policy. If they follow RCI's lead, smoking will still be permitted on balconies. I am a smoker but I can see this coming, perhaps soon. All the lines are treading carefully as smokers, who only make up approx. 21% of the population, travel with non smokers, so it's not just 21% who are affected, it's a great deal more people. This is why you will never see fleet wide smoking bans on mass market cruise lines.

 

I am a nonsmoker (and having experienced way to many family deaths to lung cancer and having seen the tortue that came with it~ I certainly don't want to experience that) HOWEVER...

 

with today's technology you can not convince me that there is not a better way than continuing to "restrict" smokers.

 

These cabins are 185 -220 sq feet. If someone is a smoker, why not require that they have a Oreck "smoke machine" in their cabin. They could pay a deposit and pick it up at the Purser's desk and get their deposit back when they returned it. It would allow them to smoke in comfort in their own cabin without "drifting" to someone else's. I know these machines don't do much in huge rooms...but they could easily handle even a chain smoker in these small cabins.

 

Instead of building "bigger ships"...why haven't they built smarter ones? There has to be an air filtration system out there that (installed from construction) would keep the casino, piano bar and smoking bars smoke free. Years ago, I suggested a filtration system that used "tubes" that came down from the ceiling covered in something silly like twinkle lights (that would fit right into Carnival's decor) that would draw the smoke out.

 

Personally, I don't think Carnival has tried hard enough and I believe our smoking friends are worth the effort!!

 

It is just easier to "restrict" and loyal Carnival cruisers deserve better than that. IMHO

[johnritt]

Combine point 2 with point 1 and I would agree. Severely restrict smoking but not totaly prohibit it and move the Paradise to a centrally located port, and I think it would be a popular cruise.

 

IMHO, not making enough money in the long term is not making money.[/QUOTE]

 

 

It wasn't a matter of "barely getting by". The Paradise MARS were more than half of the expected. But apparently that wasn't "enough".

 

I am certain that corporations here in the US would LOVE to be able to decide "how much profit" is enough (ie doing away with all the health and safety restrictions that eat into their bottom line). But thankfully, they are not allowed to do so.

 

Unfortunately, ships registered in foreign countries do not have such restrictions.

 

Again, my opinion, but, if I need to make a 10% profit by doing a a particular project but can only make a 5% profit on that certain project, I am not making enough money to make money on that project.

 

I will instead look to move or focus my limited resources where I can make the profit I need.

[Chigirlcruzin]

 

Again, my opinion, but, if I need to make a 10% profit by doing a a particular project but can only make a 5% profit on that certain project, I am not making enough money to make money on that project.

 

I will instead look to move or focus my limited resources where I can make the profit I need.

 

Right, it wasn't making enough money. I'm a category manager for a retailer, and run into this. An item is making money, but profit/inch compared to the rest of the items in the dept falls below the average, so it gets discontinued and replaced with something that makes more money. I think the big thing was group cruises. As somebody else stated, most groups, even small ones, are going to have at least one smoker. While more and more states are barring smoking from bars and restaurants (Illinois is effective Jan 1), a smoker can survive a few hours without a cigarette. But several days at sea is asking a lot.

 

I agree with LHP - there has to be better filtration systems available to install in the bars and casino. 2 years ago, the city of Chicago passed a law that gave bars until July 2008 to install filtration systems or become smoke-free - their choice (of course, then Illinois passed the law banning it, so there goes the filtration systems). The point is, the filtration systems are available.

 

I've never had an issue with my cabin smelling like smoke. I'm an asthmatic that actually had to leave a bachelorette party early last night due to the heavy smoking in Coyote Ugly - I couldn't breathe. In January, that won't be a problem, and I really didn't mind doing it - just the way things are. However, I didn't like having to leave the piano bar last week. I'm only on the cruise ship a limited amount of time and don't want to have to leave due smoking/lack of filtration.

[LHP]

 

Again, my opinion, but, if I need to make a 10% profit by doing a a particular project but can only make a 5% profit on that certain project, I am not making enough money to make money on that project.

 

I will instead look to move or focus my limited resources where I can make the profit I need.

 

Or it could just be a case of wanting to make as much money as a corporation can and not having a regulatory agency around to prevent them from doing so....

 

As a Carnival stockholder, I am all about making the money. But sadly there were some "forces" that wanted this project to fail and it did.

[johnritt]

 

Or it could just be a case of wanting to make as much money as a corporation can and not having a regulatory agency around to prevent them from doing so....

 

As a Carnival stockholder, I am all about making the money. But sadly there were some "forces" that wanted this project to fail and it did.

 

A corporation is supposed to make as much money as possible.

 

I have no specific knowledge of the lack of regulatory agency or forces you are refering to, so I have no opinion on that.

[WeatherGeek]

We had a problem with the smoke smell in the cabin the first couple of days we got on the Legend a couple of weeks ago. I guess we must have gotten used to it because we didn't notice it after that. The smokers that were in there before us used the mailbox outside of the door as an ashtray and the steward missed cleaning it initially. Walking into the room, I would have to hold my breath as I bypassed the mailbox ashtray. Once she cleaned it, the smell from that went away immediately.

 

I normally gamble on a cruise, but I did not this time because the smoke really bothered me in the casino. I didn't even like walking through it to get to the showroom lounge, so by the end of the cruise, I learned to walk on a different floor until I got far enough past the casino to enter the lounge without having to walk through the smoke. I was extra vigilant about avoiding the smoke on this trip though, because I am pregnant.

 

I did come across one inconsiderate person smoking in the elevator, but for the most part the smokers did not bother me because I avoided the areas where they are allowed to smoke as much as possible.