gingerwolf Posted December 20, 2007 #1 Share Posted December 20, 2007 how much is this, you get dip in the sea, a private boat ride and instant fame on board the ship. all joking aside, how normal is this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongerob Posted December 20, 2007 #2 Share Posted December 20, 2007 All I can say is that while there appears to be a limit to man's knowledge and intelligence, there is no limit to his stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spikesgirl Posted December 20, 2007 #3 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Seriously, man's stupidity has no boundries. Kidding aside, I'm starting to get really concerend about some of the stuff on Youtube. I know this type of behavior existed before it, but people seem to be going out of their way for their 15 minutes of fame - like that one person who taught a 2 year old to smoke and filmed it. It's sort of scary! Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druke I Posted December 20, 2007 #4 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Spikesgirl is correct - no limit to man's stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dforeigner Posted December 20, 2007 #5 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Stupid man's last words before he dies: "Watch me do this!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinwoman Posted December 20, 2007 #6 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Seriously, man's stupidity has no boundries. Kidding aside, I'm starting to get really concerend about some of the stuff on Youtube. I know this type of behavior existed before it, but people seem to be going out of their way for their 15 minutes of fame - like that one person who taught a 2 year old to smoke and filmed it. It's sort of scary! Charlie One good thing about it <youtube> those people are getting arrested for the stupid things they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylandtk Posted December 20, 2007 #7 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Normal? Not at all. Frequency? About 12 people overboard from cruise ships on average per year. That's out of ~15 million passengers. And alcohol is involved in most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noblepa Posted December 20, 2007 #8 Share Posted December 20, 2007 how much is this, you get dip in the sea, a private boat ride and instant fame on board the ship. all joking aside, how normal is this? It happens. According to www.cruisejunkie.com, there have been 20 so far in 2007. That's not very many considering the number of cruise ships in service and the number of people who sail on them. In virtually every case, liquor (large quantities of it) are involved. There have been a few that were apparent suicides, over excessive casino losses or failed love affairs among crew members. I don't think I've heard of a single case, in which a person was going about his/her business in a normal, reasonable manner and somehow "fell" overboard. The last couple of times this has happened, the person who went into the drink survived. Most aren't so lucky. The fall from a cruise ship deck is usually at least 60-70 feet. A fall from that distance, unless you're a trained diver (and sober) can often be fatal. Then there's the possibility of being drawn under the ship into the propellers. Even if the fall doesn't kill you, it can easily render you unconscious. Then you drown. If you've ever done a belly-flop off of a 3-meter diving board, you know how hard the water surface can be. Usually, they don't even find the body, let alone rescue the moron alive. So, just don't get too drunk, limit your casino losses, don't have a fight with your SO and don't do anything stupid on your cruise. You'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinbuddy Posted December 20, 2007 #9 Share Posted December 20, 2007 All I can say is that while there appears to be a limit to man's knowledge and intelligence, there is no limit to his stupidity. Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm wondering what the penalty is for something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noblepa Posted December 20, 2007 #10 Share Posted December 20, 2007 Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm wondering what the penalty is for something like that. Unfortunately, all too often, the penalty for being stupid is death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moxie99 Posted December 21, 2007 #11 Share Posted December 21, 2007 I believe this video is of the rescue at sea on the Valor - the story goes the man had been drinking, argued with his wife and said "well I'll just jump overboard" and he did. This was on the night before we were to arrive back in Miami. On our 2nd night out on our cruise, we helped a RCCL ship look for a man overboard that was never found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetf Posted December 21, 2007 #12 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Normal? Not at all. Frequency? About 12 people overboard from cruise ships on average per year. That's out of ~15 million passengers. And alcohol is involved in most of them. And Carnival leads the pack......;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idratherbeatsea Posted December 21, 2007 #13 Share Posted December 21, 2007 This character was almost a candidate for the Darwin Awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Chick Posted December 21, 2007 #14 Share Posted December 21, 2007 It happens. According to www.cruisejunkie.com, there have been 20 so far in 2007. That's not very many considering the number of cruise ships in service and the number of people who sail on them. In virtually every case, liquor (large quantities of it) are involved. There have been a few that were apparent suicides, over excessive casino losses or failed love affairs among crew members. I don't think I've heard of a single case, in which a person was going about his/her business in a normal, reasonable manner and somehow "fell" overboard. The last couple of times this has happened, the person who went into the drink survived. Most aren't so lucky. The fall from a cruise ship deck is usually at least 60-70 feet. A fall from that distance, unless you're a trained diver (and sober) can often be fatal. Then there's the possibility of being drawn under the ship into the propellers. Even if the fall doesn't kill you, it can easily render you unconscious. Then you drown. If you've ever done a belly-flop off of a 3-meter diving board, you know how hard the water surface can be. Usually, they don't even find the body, let alone rescue the moron alive. So, just don't get too drunk, limit your casino losses, don't have a fight with your SO and don't do anything stupid on your cruise. You'll be fine. Also, don't hold your toddler while putting your cabin card back in your purse while on a gangway. Oops, toddler is in the water. Yes, that happened on my last cruise (I didn't see it but others on the roll call did). It made cruisejunkie. And was the talk at dinner that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodofpine Posted December 21, 2007 #15 Share Posted December 21, 2007 How frequently? Well they haven't made style scoring a listed activity yet, so not very. Once the gangway is up, there is virtually no way to "fall" overboard accidentally. Copious quantities of alcohol are nearly always involved. Despite the 'joie de vivre' of cc posters, overboard has an unfortunate 'fatal attraction' to the suicidal. Alcohol being a depressant, its often a factor in those jumps too. The question I'd be morbidly curious to know is the fatality rate of jumps. Even those that are witnessed are often fatal. Jumps usually occur at night. It takes a lot of time and space to stop a ship underway to initiate recovery at the guestimated jump location. Currents, impact, and other toothy stuff can all carry away the forelorn or idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylandtk Posted December 21, 2007 #16 Share Posted December 21, 2007 ...The question I'd be morbidly curious to know is the fatality rate of jumps...The raw data is available at cruisejunkie, which shows that most do not survive. 2007 was actually a banner year for survival-of the 14 overboards from cruiselines (discounting the ferries, shore excursion falls and the fatal falls onboard ship) 6 people were rescued alive. Compare that to the 2006 numbers, where only one person out of fifteen was rescued alive. Do note that several of the fatalities are known or reasonably presumed suicides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noblepa Posted December 22, 2007 #17 Share Posted December 22, 2007 And Carnival leads the pack......;) Considering that Carnival has more ships than any other cruise line, by far, and has some of the largest ships afloat, it is not surprising that they have had more jumpers than other cruise lines. I would be amazed if they DIDN'T lead the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted December 22, 2007 #18 Share Posted December 22, 2007 And Carnival leads the pack......;) I wonder why?? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetf Posted December 24, 2007 #19 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Considering that Carnival has more ships than any other cruise line, by far, and has some of the largest ships afloat, it is not surprising that they have had more jumpers than other cruise lines. I would be amazed if they DIDN'T lead the pack. Problem is the relationship of the number of jumpers to the number of passengers / ships for Carnival is way above average. Here are the raw numbers. For instance Canival had 28 overboard while Princess had 5 and HAL had 4 in the same time frame. ...... And Carnival is not 5 times larger than either of those lines. http://www.cruisejunkie.com/Overboard.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetf Posted December 24, 2007 #20 Share Posted December 24, 2007 I wonder why?? :rolleyes: My three guess are..... alcohol, alcohol and alcohol. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colo Cruiser Posted December 25, 2007 #21 Share Posted December 25, 2007 My three guess are..... alcohol, alcohol and alcohol. :D And we have a winner. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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