Casino Minimums

[ParrotRob]

Well said! When a player makes a bad play but everyone wins because of it, nothin is said. It's only when other players lose a hand after a "bad play" that the complaining starts...I don't like seeing the newbies at a BJ table given a rough time by the more experienced players. Everyone has to learn somewhere and if a person has the basics down, a cruise casino is a great way to start playin "real" blackjack...it's just not the same playin online.

 

Yep, I can't believe how many so-called "experienced" players complain about newbie mistakes on their tables. The very fact that they think it affects their play tells exactly how smart a player they really are ;)

[smpd24]

For real, play by the book people! It doesn't always work but your table mates will be more happy with you for doing it.

 

I hate when someone has 12, the dealer is showing a 6 and they take the hit that would have bust the dealer!! :mad:

[ParrotRob]

For real, play by the book people! It doesn't always work but your table mates will be more happy with you for doing it.

 

Only if they are inexperienced and/or naive enough to believe it affects anything.

 

I hate when someone has 12, the dealer is showing a 6 and they take the hit that would have bust the dealer!! :mad:

 

Do you hate it just as much when the same player hits and draws the 5 that would have given the dealer twenty-one? And then the dealer busts with a face card?

 

Of course you never remember THAT situation, do you?

[CynCyn]

How did you know the dealer had 13 when you hit? The dealer should have had a card face down. Do you mean the dealer had a 3 face up and the assumption was 13? If the dealer has a 3 face up and you have 11, your best play is to double, not to hit.

 

Right, sorry, he was showing a 3. Too scared to double hehe!!

 

Thanks all!

[smpd24]

Only if they are inexperienced and/or naive enough to believe it affects anything.

 

 

 

Do you hate it just as much when the same player hits and draws the 5 that would have given the dealer twenty-one? And then the dealer busts with a face card?

 

Of course you never remember THAT situation, do you?

 

That's what I am saying, it doesn't always work but I never seem to be quite as mad since they did play by the book. Gotta hate those 21s by the dealer with 4+ cards.

[LowRiderMomma]

I do mind dealers that play my hand for me :mad:

 

This last cruise there was one dealer that was flying so fast in the dealing that she wouldn't even stop long enough for me to indicate a stay or hit on 15. After the first time, I asked her to give me a chance to say something. The second time, I picked my things up and said "I want to play my hand, not have the dealer decide for me." as I left. She stared at me like "What did I do?". I did notice others start say something to her. She was indimidating to the newbies.

[ClerkPatsy]

For real, play by the book people! It doesn't always work but your table mates will be more happy with you for doing it.

 

I hate when someone has 12, the dealer is showing a 6 and they take the hit that would have bust the dealer!! :mad:

 

 

I wasn't going to say anything until this comment. 12 is a gut call. You either play it or stay ... depending on your gut feeling. It's the only gut call with a 6 or lower showing.

 

And the Roulette table is $5 minimum with $1 chips. Since I had to say something :D

[J Free 203]

And the Roulette table is $5 minimum with $1 chips. Since I had to say something :D

 

not true! First night is is .50 minimum inside!

[Scotto97]

For those of you saying "play by the book" in blackjack - They sell that book in every casino gift shop. "The Book" simply won't get it done, all it will do is result in a slow death in the long run.

 

I live in Vegas and have played BJ for many years. I applaud a player that takes chances to beat the game. Don't play at my table if you get upset by someone that doesn't play like a robot. You have to watch the cards being played and adjust to it. If ten small cards have been played in a row - better look out for a larger card, that's just common sense, even in the six deck shoes common on cruise ships.

[smpd24]

Well it's all for entertainment. I don't count cards although, I was accused of it in Vegas last month. I try and be observant and watch the cards and do take that not by the book hit from time to time when I get that gut feeling. ;) Win or lose I have fun and it's not that serious really. Thanks for reminding me of that. :)

[scperk]

This is totally True!

 

but if you do not know how to play please save your money! you mess it it up for those who play big bets! I am reffering to BJ!

I've found that a LOt of time this is the only time some people gamble..so if you set down at a $5 table you are going to get some in-experienced people..I just play my hand the way I want to play and not let someone else tell me how to play my hand...I can't tell you the number of times I've gotten up and left a table because a persons is playing badly..I only offer advice if I'm asked......Dennis

[tomboyy]

The Sensation in june 2007 had a Texas holdem table, 2 of them that wasn't video.... had a dealer there, but it was not in the casino but in the back of the ship all by itself in a corner. Minimun buy in was $60.00

[jiggs]

For those of you saying "play by the book" in blackjack - They sell that book in every casino gift shop. "The Book" simply won't get it done, all it will do is result in a slow death in the long run.

 

I live in Vegas and have played BJ for many years. I applaud a player that takes chances to beat the game. Don't play at my table if you get upset by someone that doesn't play like a robot. You have to watch the cards being played and adjust to it. If ten small cards have been played in a row - better look out for a larger card, that's just common sense, even in the six deck shoes common on cruise ships.

 

By that logic, you'd of expected a 'large card' after the 5,6,7,8,9 and 10th small card. Its like saying that red is due after black hit 10 times in a row on the wheel. Cards have no memory. I've played at blackjack tables where 7 people got both their cards with no face cards, 6 deck shoe, decent cut. Telling anyone who can not do a sophisicated count not to play by the book is foolish. Even most people that play by the book make mistakes on the tougher calls (like soft hands againts a 4).

 

I play blackjack from $1 -$50 a hand, if you're at a low ($3) limit table, I don't care how you play because I'm there only for the fun of it, and I'll likely take more chances. If you're going to sit and play green chips, please understand the game. I'm not saying you're changing the outcome for me, but you may as well throw your money overboard.

[MustardMan]

I've been scared off of tables! I played in Vegas and had 11. I hit and got a 10. The dealer had 13. Another player screamed at me and wanted to fight me over hitting when the dealer had 13. Hey, I played for me. Wasn't that the right thing to do? The other players didn't give each other money!!!

 

Play away! Hope the people you play with have more manners than that lady in Vegas.

 

You almost made the right play! The correct play was to double down! But taking a card with an 11 is ALWAYS the right move (doubling down would be based on the dealer card)!

I'm guessing the other player had a 15 or something that needed a dealer bust to win!

[MustardMan]

For real, play by the book people! It doesn't always work but your table mates will be more happy with you for doing it.

 

I hate when someone has 12, the dealer is showing a 6 and they take the hit that would have bust the dealer!! :mad:

 

 

I agree with that but it's not my money they are taking away when the guy with the 12 gets a 10 (I never hit a 12 with the dealer showing a 6!) For every guy that takes the "dealer's" face card, the is another guy who takes a three when the dealer's 6 up has a 2 under it! It all works out in the end!

[MustardMan]

[quote name='smpd24']That's what I am saying, it doesn't always work but I never seem to be quite as mad since they did play by the book. Gotta hate those 21s by the dealer with 4+ cards.[/quote]


And they usually get them when you have a 20, right?? (I know I've seen that movie too many times!) ;)

[MustardMan]

[quote name='jiggs']By that logic, you'd of expected a 'large card' after the 5,6,7,8,9 and 10th small card. Its like saying that red is due after black hit 10 times in a row on the wheel. Cards have no memory. [/quote]

[COLOR=blue][B]Cards have no memory but once they are out of the shoe, they can't come back! In a six deck shoe if six 4 of hearts are turned up, they will not be available until the cards are shuffled. Every book I have ever read on blackjack says that if a bunch of little cards come out, it's time to raise your bets since more larger cards means more blackjacks and the player gets 3/2 for that. [/B][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=blue][B]#5 never leaves the roulette wheel and can be hit an infinite number of times consecutively! (Once the cards are dealt they have to wait for a reshuffle to get back in.)[/B][/COLOR]

[big_duck]

[quote name='MustardMan'][COLOR=blue][B]Cards have no memory but once they are out of the shoe, they can't come back! In a six deck shoe if six 4 of hearts are turned up, they will not be available until the cards are shuffled. Every book I have ever read on blackjack says that if a bunch of little cards come out, it's time to raise your bets since more larger cards means more blackjacks and the player gets 3/2 for that. [/B][/COLOR]

[COLOR=blue][B]#5 never leaves the roulette wheel and can be hit an infinite number of times consecutively! (Once the cards are dealt they have to wait for a reshuffle to get back in.)[/B][/COLOR][/quote]

Well since Carnival uses continuous shuffling machines as shoes, that blows your theory right out the window.

[Scotto97]

[quote name='big_duck']Well since Carnival uses continuous shuffling machines as shoes, that blows your theory right out the window.[/quote]

Please don't tell me every blackjack table on carnival is serviced by one of those machines. Don't a few of the tables have a standard six deck shoe?

If not - I will not be playing any blackjack on this cruise line - you're essentially playing a slot machine.

[salty dingo]

I never have understood why some BJ players think it is a team sport. Everone is playing as an individual, against the dealer. There is no way an inexperienced player can mess anyone else up but themselves.

You see, if they make a dumb move, they are just as likely to change the cards so as to make the other players win as they are to make the other players lose. In the long run, it doesn't matter how anyone else at the table plays!

I always feel sorry for the newbies who split 10s and get groans from other players. It only hurts the newbie.

[big_duck]

[quote name='Scotto97']Please don't tell me every blackjack table on carnival is serviced by one of those machines. Don't a few of the tables have a standard six deck shoe?

If not - I will not be playing any blackjack on this cruise line - you're essentially playing a slot machine.[/quote]

I've not been at every table on every ship, but I understand they are standard now.

[Uncle Fester]

[quote name='salty dingo']I never have understood why some BJ players think it is a team sport. Everone is playing as an individual, against the dealer. There is no way an inexperienced player can mess anyone else up but themselves.

You see, if they make a dumb move, they are just as likely to change the cards so as to make the other players win as they are to make the other players lose. In the long run, it doesn't matter how anyone else at the table plays!

I always feel sorry for the newbies who split 10s and get groans from other players. It only hurts the newbie.[/quote]

I had a wise bit-boss explain it to me once years ago at the old Silver Slipper in Vegas that made perfect sense. He said "if an inexperienced player could really impact the game, don't you think we would just have shills waiting around to come into a game and make bad plays?" He said he was only concerned about counters (not illegal) and people using shinners and marking cards (illegal). Other than that he said, we'll let the vig take care of itself.

[smgardner]

I have played alot of black jack over the last 20 or so years...too much to even think about. I do not think players "screw up the deck" as others do. However, I do get up and find another table when a person sits down and starts splitting tens or needs to be advised on most hands. Nothing against them, but I prefer to sit at a table where the game flows and alot of goofy stuff is not going on. I do not get snobbish like I see others do. I prefer to look at it as I am sitting at the wrong table, not them. Everybody learned the game at one point or the other and they are certainly entitled to do that....if I do not want to be at that table I can move....which I do.
No fuss, no muss.

[Uncle Fester]

[quote name='smgardner']I have played alot of black jack over the last 20 or so years...too much to even think about. I do not think players "screw up the deck" as others do. However, I do get up and find another table when a person sits down and starts splitting tens or needs to be advised on most hands. Nothing against them, but I prefer to sit at a table where the game flows and alot of goofy stuff is not going on. I do not get snobbish like I see others do. I prefer to look at it as I am sitting at the wrong table, not them. Everybody learned the game at one point or the other and they are certainly entitled to do that....if I do not want to be at that table I can move....which I do.
No fuss, no muss.[/quote]

I wish more people had your attitude. I don't know what it is about casinos that brings out the rude and snide comments (besides the copious amounts of free drinks). If you don't like how someone is playing, the smell of their cigar or perfume, or the sound of their laugh, then just find another table. There's usually many more, especially if you're in Vegas.

[sfagent]

As I was reading through the thread I was going to make the comment about the continous shuffle machines being used fleetwide but luckily someone else has made it.

Here's a question about etiquette. After playing blackjack a few years I started to make it a standard practice to ask if I can join in a game mid-shoe (during a six deck deal) or wait until the end of the shoe to join a table.

Personally, during a few big winning shoes (I typically play very large hands) I've been very appreciative of someone else doing the same (it's amazing how winning several thousand dollars during a hand will draw others in.)

But here, is the question. If you believe in asking the courtesy of the players currently in a shoe to let you in or wait until the shoe is over, how do you personally handle a continous shuffle machine? Since the tables I sit at are never full and usually only have one or at the most two people, during our last cruise I came to the table and just stated "let me know when you are comfortable for me to come in" Usually they said it was fine right then, however on a couple of occassions they waited maybe ten or so hands and then welcomed me in. I know not everyone adheres to this custom, and realize not everyone wants to do this, but I personally like it and just wondered if anyone else had a thought or idea on handle these situations.