Our Cruise on Carnival Miracle sucks

[KroozNut]

No my tablemates didn't notice and mentioned so when I told them about it later.

 

But you said you didn't express your displeasure with the lobster to your tablemates.. :confused:

 

..really enjoyed their company (they didn't even know my lobster was waaay undercooked and horrible),..

[Crusin Karen]

Aug 12 2000 Horizon

Sept 1 2001 Zenith

May 2(?) 2002 Zenith

Sept 2002 Zenith or Horizon???

Horizon 9/19-9/26/92, 9/29-10/6/01

Zenith 9/11-9/18/99, 10/5-10/12/02

So we weren't on the same cruises! :cool:

[trock]

Horizon 9/19-9/26/92, 9/29-10/6/01

Zenith 9/11-9/18/99, 10/5-10/12/02

So we weren't on the same cruises! :cool:

 

 

..i loved those ships...

[ikelmay]

It's rather ironic; one can post to the point of devoted fanaticism about their cruiseline of choice without comment; yet post an entirely negative review of a cruise (and don't think that because you've never had an entirely bad cruise that it doesn't happen) and suddenly it absolutely, positively, has to be a troll.

 

But IMO this one really doesn't pass the sniff test -

 

Is it balanced (have you ever been on a cruise where there hasn't been SOMETHING positive? I've had disasters happen, but some aspect has always been good)

 

Does the poster respond (if I had endured such a dreadful experience, I'd be back for sure to blast anyone who contradicted my opinion) I don't think there are many shrinking violets on here who would take off at the first sign of criticism

 

Is it the first and only post ever made by the OP

[rpclmc]

But you said you didn't express your displeasure with the lobster to your tablemates.. :confused:

 

Let me clarify something. At dinner and while on the cruise, I never expressed my displeasure about any of the cruise with my tablemates. My tablemates are now very good friends and I have expressed some of my displeasures with them (in casual conversations over email and about our cruise) about the cruise. They have mentioned, they never new that I had any displeasures because I was having so much fun and never complained (and I was not drinking, I was just plain old having a good time with good people).

 

These conversations were just casual and were just comparitive in our emails about the cruise. Actually, let me clarify myself again, there really wasn't any comparison. Like I said many times before, it is all opinions and they didn't experience poor lobster or service. I did a review that stated it was only 1 persons opinion and then listed out my experiences.

[CRUZ-AHOLIC]

This review was unfair, unbalanced, and contained lies. How did you expect it to be received? Dan

 

What made it unfair, unbalanced and full of lies? Can anyone truly say that the events posted did not take place? Good or bad, that was one person's perspective of events. If it truly is a troll, then the mods should delete this thread right now, as is usually the case with troll-created threads.

 

cathyoo, you wrote:

"Cindy, I've been on 4 cruises and each one has been wonderful but I don't understand that "the worst day on a cruise is better than the best day" ... at wherever, work, home, land. When people state their air conditioning did not work, non-working toilets, lound noises in the cabin, nah, I'd rather be at work earning money than stuck in the middle of the ocean paying for a non-working toilet.

 

....But I guess I better not expect any sympathy from this board if my cruise goes bad."

 

Cathy, I agree with you, I never did agree with that catchphrase. Perhaps the sentiment behind it is that when you're on a cruise, you can still have crummy things happen to you and it's still better than being at home. LOL, I did feel that way on Voyager---the cruise was just such an awesome one (it's still my fav) that even the bathroom problem was manageable. But that was my experience on that particular cruise and everything else was just great. Overall, I still feel that given the right..or should I say wrong..circumstances, I'd be wishing for my home. It still hasn't happened, but there's always a first time :) And BTW--if you have a bad cruise, you've got my sympathy vote :)

 

Cindy

[bigred4770]

just curious - what is a "troll" ?

[meresener]

[travelgrammy]

"casino was very smokey"

 

Uh its a casino DUH

Go to bingo if you dont like smoke

 

 

Next she'll be saying she was shocked, SHOCKED to find gambling going on..!!

 

Ok, as a non-smoker who likes slots, I've gotta say that the smoky comment isn't as dumb as it may sound. If a casino doesn't have a good ventilation system and a decent non-smoking section, or the attendants let people smoke in the non-smoking section, it's going to affect how I feel about that casino. In Reno or Las Vegas, I can choose to go to another casino, but I can't do that on a ship. And I don't like bingo. Personally, I thought the one Carnival ship I've been on (Paradise) did a stellar job keeping us non-smokers comfortable in the casino, but I do understand the comment.

 

Anne

[dan40]

What made it unfair, unbalanced and full of lies? Can anyone truly say that the events posted did not take place? Good or bad, that was one person's perspective of events. If it truly is a troll, then the mods should delete this thread right now, as is usually the case with troll-created threads.

 

Unfair, and unbalanced? the fact that she claims that nothing was good, all was bad to a greater or lesser degree. Lies? The claim that all were in agreement about all being bad. That just does not happen. But that claim is ever present in the reports by the never satisfied constant unhappy complainer. It is never just them, it is always EVERYONE was complaining. When, actually, it was just them, having the bad cruise they were determined to have.

I have cruised for 40 plus years, never had a perfect cruise, but always had terrific cruises. Even on lines long gone out of business. Never had an ALL bad cruise, nor have I ever met anyone that did have an all bad cruise. But the one post wonder troll always makes the claim that everybody was unhappy. That's never true, so not true = a lie.

 

Dan

[cathyoo]

And BTW--if you have a bad cruise, you've got my sympathy vote :)

 

Cindy

 

Thank you, but I'm hoping I never have to take you up on that offer.

[cruisinsooners]

sailed Carnival Fascination March of 2007 with kids and had the time of our lives. Husband and I going on Carnival Miracle May 1st 2008 for 10th Anniversary and can't wait. Hopefully there aren't any strange noises.:o

[Rowtyd]

Why would "Abigail" from RCCL's head office be cruising Carnival? :D

[oceanv]

Probably a matter of degree... I susprect that some people can get the very slightest wiff of smoke, and they will judge that the ship is a "smokey ship".

 

I think its ascerbated by the fact that if you're a non-smoker and live in non-friendly smoker province / state (ie. British Columbia for me) smokers aren't allowed to smoke anywhere other than entrances to building and those are banned to 15 feet or something on some buildings. no restaraunts no bars etc... so i can go months and months - years without ever having to come into contact with a smoker, or walk through cigarette smoke. i just got back from las vegas three weeks ago and i thought it was the worst trip ever for cigarette smoke - it prob. wasn't but because i'm not used to having to deal with it anymore i was in shock (and coughing reaching for inhaler:cool: ), vegas for smokers must seem like a great vacation from non-smoking rules, they get to shed the smoking rules for their time there. ships to me are the same, they can be shocking to non-smokers.... but smoking is allowed in some areas currently so i guess we have to go with it.

[Snorkel2Much]

Unfair, and unbalanced? the fact that she claims that nothing was good, all was bad to a greater or lesser degree. Lies? The claim that all were in agreement about all being bad. That just does not happen.

That is NOT what the OP said, they said that everyone they asked agreed that it was the "worst ship we have been on". There is a huge logical difference. If everyone they asked constituted the people sharing their table (and servers)....

 

But that claim is ever present in the reports by the never satisfied constant unhappy complainer. It is never just them, it is always EVERYONE was complaining. When, actually, it was just them, having the bad cruise they were determined to have.

I have cruised for 40 plus years, never had a perfect cruise, but always had terrific cruises. Even on lines long gone out of business. Never had an ALL bad cruise, nor have I ever met anyone that did have an all bad cruise. But the one post wonder troll always makes the claim that everybody was unhappy. That's never true, so not true = a lie.

Your claim that the OP stated that "everybody was unhappy", is itself a lie by your definition.

 

Dan

Words in red = mine

[dan40]

Words in red = mine

 

 

You think she was totally accurate? On her unknown and uncorroborated word, the ship should be avoided? Boycotted? Scuttled? How about we shoot all the officers too?

But I'll bet she still wouldn't be happy.

 

I'll stay with my first assessment, her review is complete bullchit. To me, it has all the earmarks of the chronically unhappy with dissatisfaction complications.

 

Dan

[salty dingo]

Miracle seems to get consistently highly rated reviews. That does not mean that one person may not have a disappointing experience every now and then, but overall it is a good ship.

 

I am always skeptical when someone comes here and rates a terrible cruise on the very first post. I wonder what is the point - if you don't like it just don't go back.

[Pegs222]

One post, hit and run. Why even bother and come here and complain if you do not bother to stick around? There are just some people that you can not make happy and I believe you are one of them. A cruise is what you make of it. You can enjoy it or not, your choice. I for one do not believe for one minute that everyone on that cruise was unhappy, or at the very least many of them. You could have take Carnival up on their promise, if you do not like your cruise after the first day they will fly you back home. Sweet deal, why did you not take it?

[Snorkel2Much]

You think she was totally accurate? On her unknown and uncorroborated word, the ship should be avoided? Boycotted? Scuttled? How about we shoot all the officers too?

But I'll bet she still wouldn't be happy.

 

I'll stay with my first assessment, her review is complete bullchit. To me, it has all the earmarks of the chronically unhappy with dissatisfaction complications.

 

Dan

Again, you're claiming that the OP said something that they QUITE CLEARLY did not say. By your own definition, you have lied yet again.

 

It happens that I don't disagree with your opinion that the review lacked balance, but I strongly believe you are way out of line / over the top / flat out wrong with your liar claims.

[djwood24]

You think she was totally accurate? On her unknown and uncorroborated word, the ship should be avoided? Boycotted? Scuttled? How about we shoot all the officers too?

But I'll bet she still wouldn't be happy.

 

I'll stay with my first assessment, her review is complete bullchit. To me, it has all the earmarks of the chronically unhappy with dissatisfaction complications.

 

Dan

 

 

I agree with your accessment of the original post...but on the other hand I truly belive this is a person who did have a bad cruise ...in their opinion!

I really do like this board but find way too many people here bash people for expressing their opinion especially when it is not agreeable with the mainstream. If in fact the OP never came back to defend themselves would not surprise me in the least.

I am cruising the Miracle in May and cannot wait to be able to post my review....good bad or indifferent as it will be MY opinion.

If I actually took a poll about the Miracle I am sure I would get MORE people who like the ship than not, but I do not choose a cruise by the ship I choose by the intinerary...I found this board after I choose the cruise and do not have many posts...so If I do not like my cruise IMHO...what will I be called?

[cruisin'since'75]

She can take my spot on NCL....last october was my last cruise on them...Dennis

 

Agree with you regarding NCL. I took MY last cruise with them in 2002! I've gone on and on about that awful experience in other posts. Truly the worst.

 

As far as Carnival Miracle is concerned., great ship. Sailed her in the past, loved the layout, the decor (yes, even those grapes in the Dining Room!), the staff & crew, and my balcony. As far as inanimate objects are concerned, I love my balcony more than anything else in the whole wide world!

 

But lets think about this...you were sailing on the sea. Okay, that's it. You were aboard a ship, on the ocean, sailing into the sun. That does it for me.

 

Hopefully your next cruise vacation will prove to be a much better experience.

 

Hey, how come we haven't heard anything else from you? Or was your first posting the very last bit you could muster?

[Socref124]

Queens Park Rangers??? Give me a break, Man U forever:) ....LOL

[dan40]

Again, you're claiming that the OP said something that they QUITE CLEARLY did not say. By your own definition, you have lied yet again.

 

It happens that I don't disagree with your opinion that the review lacked balance, but I strongly believe you are way out of line / over the top / flat out wrong with your liar claims.

 

If you cannot see how the OP was trying to say that all were in agreement that the ship, food, service, entertainment, ports, Capitan's breath, and Pursers complexion were ALL BAD. It wasn't just her, EVERYBODY she talked wirh, even a CruiseCritic member agreed how bad the ship et all, was.

That is the hallmark of the true baloney reviews. In her mind she might not have even known she was lying. But she certainly was not and is not painting a true picture. And the word for that is WHAT????

 

And over the top or under the mud, what are we doing arguing over the vomitus of a one post troll?

 

Dan

[Snorkel2Much]

If you cannot see how the OP was trying to say that all were in agreement that the ship, food, service, entertainment, ports, Capitan's breath, and Pursers complexion were ALL BAD.

Oh really? I thought they wrote:

"Food was nothing special, Entertainment wasn't all that good, and service was ok at best. The casino was very smokey."

Those words, at least for those not blinding themselves by ferverent shaking of Carnival pom-pom's, are not even close to what you are saying.

 

It wasn't just her, EVERYBODY she talked wirh, even a CruiseCritic member agreed how bad the ship et all, was.

 

No, they said that others agreed that it was the "worst ship they had been on", which is not even close to the same thing as you're saying.

 

That is the hallmark of the true baloney reviews. In her mind she might not have even known she was lying. But she certainly was not and is not painting a true picture. And the word for that is WHAT????

Can you not see that you are still, even now, doing what you accuse the OP of doing?

 

And over the top or under the mud, what are we doing arguing over the vomitus of a one post troll?

 

Because, even if you can't see how poorly you're treating someone who YOU feel deserves it, perhaps others will read this and think twice before they make a fool out of themselves trying to emulate your actions.

Dan

Red = mine

[tls630]

We sailed the Miricale 3 weeks ago, the western and it was the best cruise we ahve ever had. the ship was great,food quality was excellant and the service was great. It was smoky in the Casino, but we avoided that for the most part! Sorry you had a bad time! We loved it and Carnival has bent over backwards to satisfy us IN EVERY WAY!:)