MyImagination Posted March 1, 2009 #1 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Interesting read, for those that werent aware. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/03/01/news/CB-FEA-Cruise-Pollution.php Excerpts The U.N.'s International Maritime Organization outlawed dumping in 1993 for the Caribbean, a largely enclosed area where the string of islands blocks currents that would flush waste into the Atlantic Ocean. It will not take effect, however, until enough of the surrounding nations report their capacity for treating trash from cruise ships — information that the vast majority of nations so far have withheld. ***************************************************** In one notorious example, Carnival Cruise Line withdrew from Grenada in 1999 amid a dispute over $1.50-a-head tax to pay for a new landfill. "Countries haven't forgotten that," said Christopher Corbin, a Jamaica-based officer with the United Nations Environmental Program. "They are worried that they will get played off against each other." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koshlong Posted March 1, 2009 #2 Share Posted March 1, 2009 That's an interesting angle. I can really see the problem for ships based on Caribbean islands, where it really isn't possible for them to "take it back home". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioJeff Posted March 1, 2009 #3 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Can you imagine the amount of trash a ship like Oasis will create on a weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Mach* Posted March 1, 2009 #4 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Interesting read, for those that werent aware. http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2009/03/01/news/CB-FEA-Cruise-Pollution.php Excerpts The U.N.'s International Maritime Organization outlawed dumping in 1993 for the Caribbean, a largely enclosed area where the string of islands blocks currents that would flush waste into the Atlantic Ocean. It will not take effect, however, until enough of the surrounding nations report their capacity for treating trash from cruise ships — information that the vast majority of nations so far have withheld. ***************************************************** In one notorious example, Carnival Cruise Line withdrew from Grenada in 1999 amid a dispute over $1.50-a-head tax to pay for a new landfill. "Countries haven't forgotten that," said Christopher Corbin, a Jamaica-based officer with the United Nations Environmental Program. "They are worried that they will get played off against each other." Carnival dumps nothing at sea. In fact, Carnival has been recognized as one of the most environmentally responsible cruise line in the world: http://www.carnival.com/CMS/Articles/environmental_virtual_.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pechez Posted March 1, 2009 #5 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Carnival dumps nothing at sea. In fact, Carnival has been recognized as one of the most environmentally responsible cruise line in the world: http://www.carnival.com/CMS/Articles/environmental_virtual_.aspx VERY interesting, Mach, I did not know that but am PROUD to be on a Cruise line that is so concerned about the environment. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfrodo Posted March 1, 2009 #6 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I'm curious as to what the OP angle was here. As I read the article, the discussion is about cruiselines that BASE their operations out of certain carribbean countries. This article is not speaking of the main mass cruiselines such as RCCL, NCL, Carnival, Celebrity and others. Heck, if you want to talk about dumping garbage into the oceans talk about the US Navy and or NYC :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee777 Posted March 1, 2009 #7 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I think the thread is rather interesting. In my own little head-in-the-sand way, I never gave a single thought to where the waste from a ship goes. When I think cruise, I think sun, fun, food, relaxation. I don't (didn't) stop to wonder where the dirty diapers went, or the biowaste from the clinic, the plastics, glass, paper, cardboard, aluminum, etc. I am impressed that a cruise line I chose to carry me away from my day to day worries both last year and next month, cares to address those issues in such a responsible way. Kudos to ALL cruise lines who are doing their part to ensure the oceans are habitable not only for us to enjoy, but for all marine life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted March 1, 2009 #8 Share Posted March 1, 2009 The Mediteranean has a similar problem with the increased cruise traffic the last few years. It doesn't get the flow through it to exchange a large volume of water, so they have to do all they can to limit the amount of waste discharged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Familyforce6 Posted March 1, 2009 #9 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Can someone tell me if there are special cans for recycling plastic bottles on carnival ships?:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZjones12 Posted March 1, 2009 #10 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I wonder how many cruise lines will follow carnivals lead? Good point about how much the Oasis of the seas will produce in a week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDogChief Posted March 1, 2009 #11 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I'm curious as to what the OP angle was here. As I read the article, the discussion is about cruiselines that BASE their operations out of certain carribbean countries. This article is not speaking of the main mass cruiselines such as RCCL, NCL, Carnival, Celebrity and others. Heck, if you want to talk about dumping garbage into the oceans talk about the US Navy and or NYC :eek: Uhhh, the Navy stopped dumping solid waste into the ocean years ago. In fact the last time I ever remember a Navy vessel dumping trash over the side was 1990... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDogChief Posted March 1, 2009 #12 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Can someone tell me if there are special cans for recycling plastic bottles on carnival ships?:) I do believe there are receptacles labelled for specific items such as plastic...will be able to confirm that on October 17th...YES!!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brittfan Posted March 1, 2009 #13 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Carnival dumps nothing at sea. In fact, Carnival has been recognized as one of the most environmentally responsible cruise line in the world: According to our galley guide on the Liberty, all left over food, minus the bones and lobster shells, are ground up and "fed to the fish" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klfrodo Posted March 1, 2009 #14 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Uhhh, the Navy stopped dumping solid waste into the ocean years ago. In fact the last time I ever remember a Navy vessel dumping trash over the side was 1990... Not according to my sources at Bremerton and Bangor. Most of it maybe,,, all of it,,NOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanK Posted March 1, 2009 #15 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Can someone tell me if there are special cans for recycling plastic bottles on carnival ships?:) ..yes, saw a couple of bins marked on the Imagination last November. JoanK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisefromNY Posted March 1, 2009 #16 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Can someone tell me if there are special cans for recycling plastic bottles on carnival ships?:) I have seen those marked receptacles on Lido. We always leave our recyclables out of the cabin trash. The steward has always taken care of it. I have seen separate containers on the carts they use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDogChief Posted March 1, 2009 #17 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Not according to my sources at Bremerton and Bangor.Most of it maybe,,, all of it,,NOT sources at Bremerton and Bangor??? I have been on both coasts and every major body of water on the globe and not since 1990 have I seen solid waste allowed to be dumped overboard...now, food and the like is ground and dumped, which is biodegradable and serves as fish food...sewerage is not dumped either, it is treated on the ship (much like your municipal waste water treatment plant) and is pumped out as "gray water" which is exactly what land based water treatment plants do...oil and such from the bilge is not pumped out either, it first is processed through an oil/water separator, the oil is kept onboard and the water is pumped out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Steve Posted March 1, 2009 #18 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Interesting good news/bad news read. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorkel2Much Posted March 1, 2009 #19 Share Posted March 1, 2009 sources at Bremerton and Bangor??? I have been on both coasts and every major body of water on the globe and not since 1990 have I seen solid waste allowed to be dumped overboard...now, food and the like is ground and dumped, which is biodegradable and serves as fish food...sewerage is not dumped either, it is treated on the ship (much like your municipal waste water treatment plant) and is pumped out as "gray water" which is exactly what land based water treatment plants do...oil and such from the bilge is not pumped out either, it first is processed through an oil/water separator, the oil is kept onboard and the water is pumped out... I believe frodo was referring to the US Navy Submarine Service's waste practices. A topic you appear to be minimally aware of, despite your stated tour on the Emory Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDogChief Posted March 1, 2009 #20 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I believe frodo was referring to the Submarine Service's waste practices. A topic you appear to be minimally aware of, despite your stated tour on the Emory Land. Yeah, that's it, I don't know anything about the dump chute on a submarine :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbroons Posted March 1, 2009 #21 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Carnival dumps nothing at sea. In fact, Carnival has been recognized as one of the most environmentally responsible cruise line in the world: According to our galley guide on the Liberty, all left over food, minus the bones and lobster shells, are ground up and "fed to the fish" I believe they're talking about human waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G'ma Posted March 1, 2009 #22 Share Posted March 1, 2009 While there are those ships that disregard pollution concerns, CLIA members agree to the Maritime laws and policies.....most are responsible. http://www.cruising.org/industry/environment.cfm and--Carnival has no problem...... http://www.carnival.com/CMS/Articles/environmental_virtual_.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Mach* Posted March 1, 2009 #23 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Can someone tell me if there are special cans for recycling plastic bottles on carnival ships?:) Yep!!! But you don't have to worry about it as that's all done by the staff!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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