Smoking on QM2

[Alberich]

I have to comment on the smoking part. I have asthma, and never have really been bothred with the smells, except in certain areas that are smaller and closed in. Which brings me to the elevators/lifts, will someone tell some of these women who must bathe in their perfume, that a little goes a long way and a lot can choke a horse. I have had to get off because of the choking smells of pefume.

 

 

Not only women either...

 

The "more is more" school of thought can leave anyone choking for breath. Healthy or otherwise. It's a good point that you make - it is (to me) far more offensive than a light touch of tobacco.

[shazz56]

A small correction. The Commodore Club has the Cigar lounge attached, but it is completely isolated, and has a seperate ventilation system.

 

Hi,

Having returned around 3 months ago from 28 days onboard the QV, there are only 2 indoor public areas for smoking, the Casino and the Churchill Room (next to the Commodore room).

My other half is a non smoker, and when we boarded in Sydney. he commented that there was no smell of stale smoke. I always, regardless of the weather or time of day/night, always sat on the balcony for my smoke. I rarely heard or saw my neighbours on their balcony, except as we left port.

The other outdoor area for smoking was on deck 10 (not sure if it was port or starboard) side and deck 3,

The outside smoking areas were always quiter and had plenty of chairs and tables, so often would have non smokers joining us for a quiet drink.

I can assure you that onboard the QV, you wont smell smoke in any of the public areas.

Overpowering perfume and aftershave is a different matter! Nothing is worse than a full lift with so many different combinations of perfumes and aftershave! And we wont mention other body odours!!!!!

 

cheers

 

shazz

[CruznTom]

Obviously the nonsmokers won't be satisfied until it is "all nonsmoking". It doesn't matter if they smell smoke or not, it shouldn't be allowed. Well, it won't be long, so please be patient.

I'm looking forward to our round trip TA on July 30, and I will be dressing to the code, I will not wear too much purfume and I will stand in line to have a drink and a cigarette in the Pub because there are only 4 tables for smokers and a whole empty room for non smokers. I'm so excited. :D

[brigittetom]

Sorry, Tom didn't sign out and he would not want to take responsibility for my last post.

PM. Thank you. What a pleasure.

[ThePennyHasDropped]

So long as I can still hold court in Churchill's I won't get too mad.

[Ericktina]

We have today arrived back from our 6 days on the QM2.

 

When we first went down to the pub, the smell of cigarette smoke hit us immediately we left the lift, and was completely unexpected!

 

I am amazed that Cunard have not banned smoking in public rooms throughout the ship, we enjoy the Trivia quizzes but we always ended up coughing when we left. Whilst there are only four tables where smoking is allowed no-one seems to have realised that smoke drifts and does not go straight up into the air and disappears!

 

Thr casino, too, was out of bounds to us and it absolutely stunk of stale smoke.

 

I asked a crew member why smoking is allowed and I was told that Cunard would like to ban it but there is opposition from regular cruisers.

 

Funny how they have to accept a ban in the UK and USA !

 

I filled in my comments form and said that I would not book again until a total ban is in place, Fred Olsen have just gone to a complete ban this week I understand, too.

 

This was our first with Cunard, the service and food were excellent, the high teas were superb.

 

However, we found the activities boring and the entertainment was abysmal, surely people want something more that a few singers and dancers these days. The exception were the Night club band Fusion who were very good

 

The safety drill was a total shambles, no-one checked which cabins were represented, they simply went through the motions, this has never happened to us before and surely was breaking the law.

 

Finally, much praise for the Medical Centre, I was unwell during the journey and was there four days for varying times the whole of the staff there were excellent and it is reassuring to know that I was in good hands.

 

I bet this post will receive a lot of replies!

Have not sailed on QM2 for 18 months---checked the website for the smoking policy--it is very different from what I read here--says smoking is permitted in ALL bars and lounges in certain sections--I do not believe that is correct,

[The Real PM]

Have not sailed on QM2 for 18 months---checked the website for the smoking policy--it is very different from what I read here--says smoking is permitted in ALL bars and lounges in certain sections--I do not believe that is correct,

Well, I went a year ago and what you read was the way it was. But it may have changed since then. Smoking sections don't bother me. Cunard does it very nicely, as I remember.

[The Real PM]

Obviously the nonsmokers won't be satisfied until it is "all nonsmoking". It doesn't matter if they smell smoke or not, it shouldn't be allowed. Well, it won't be long, so please be patient.

 

I'm looking forward to our round trip TA on July 30, and I will be dressing to the code, I will not wear too much purfume and I will stand in line to have a drink and a cigarette in the Pub because there are only 4 tables for smokers and a whole empty room for non smokers. I'm so excited. :D

 

 

 

 

 

What really, really bothers me about the entire smoking ban is that

SMOKING IS LEGAL!!!

So until it becomes illegal then they should leave smokers alone. All those anti smokers have had their way and managed to cancel smoking, but I believe they will get theirs one day, just you wait. Because most of them like to drink and eat unhealthy foods, but both are already on the chopping block. Who knows what will be next. I can't wait to see their shocked faces when it happens to them!

 

Oh, and by the way, I am a non-smoker, but I really am not fond of holier than thou people.

[moniquet]

What really, really bothers me about the entire smoking ban is that

SMOKING IS LEGAL!!!

So until it becomes illegal then they should leave smokers alone. All those anti smokers have had their way and managed to cancel smoking, but I believe they will get theirs one day, just you wait. Because most of them like to drink and eat unhealthy foods, but both are already on the chopping block. Who knows what will be next. I can't wait to see their shocked faces when it happens to them!

 

Oh, and by the way, I am a non-smoker, but I really am not fond of holier than thou people.

 

Real PM....I love you:cool:

[Dorchester]

What really, really bothers me about the entire smoking ban is that

SMOKING IS LEGAL!!!

So until it becomes illegal then they should leave smokers alone. All those anti smokers have had their way and managed to cancel smoking, but I believe they will get theirs one day, just you wait. Because most of them like to drink and eat unhealthy foods, but both are already on the chopping block. Who knows what will be next. I can't wait to see their shocked faces when it happens to them!

 

Oh, and by the way, I am a non-smoker, but I really am not fond of holier than thou people.

 

How refreshing to have a sensible and un-biased reply to this old chestnut!

 

Surely the crux of the matter is that all passengers should have proper regard and consideration for their fellow traveling companions, and conduct themselves accordingly at all times. Such consideration may well be not to splash on half a bottle of cheap perfume before getting into a crowded lift (elevator) to go to the dining room for dinner, or to insist on reciting ones life history at close quarters with alcohol-laden breath laced with the odour of garlic from the chicken Kiev that they had for dinner some hours before!

 

Let's face it, almost anything that we put into our mouths can kill if taken to excess; alcohol, sugar, saturated fats, and - yes, smoking. I well recall walking past Churchill's Cigar Lounge with my Wife, following two extremely overweight ladies, one of who commented "Hold you breath whilst we pass, or you could get cancer".

 

My layman's take on this is that the lady would probably be more likely to suffer from some cardio-vascular related disease due to being grossly overweight, rather than inhaling one or two breaths of diluted carcinogenic smoke.

 

I agree with your view on the "Holier than Thou" brigade, most of whom seem to have a somewhat blinkered outlook on life.

 

Incidentally both my Wife and I are smokers, but we always ensure that we do not inconvenience or affect any of our fellow traveling companions when we do indulge in our 'filthy and loathsome habit'.

 

Regards,

David

[Andiamo]

What really, really bothers me about the entire smoking ban is that

SMOKING IS LEGAL!!!

So until it becomes illegal then they should leave smokers alone. All those anti smokers have had their way and managed to cancel smoking, but I believe they will get theirs one day, just you wait. Because most of them like to drink and eat unhealthy foods, but both are already on the chopping block. Who knows what will be next. I can't wait to see their shocked faces when it happens to them!

 

Oh, and by the way, I am a non-smoker, but I really am not fond of holier than thou people.

 

Gail,

 

Thanks so much for your above post.

 

On our first QM2 voyage there was a section in the Queens Room that was for smokers. That meant that we could have drinks, a cigarette, and dance all at the same time. Can you imagine! From that year, until recently, we could enjoy a cigarette in Sir Samuel's, Chart Room, the Pub, and Commodore. Everything has changed to protect the public. Well, the public is now so protected and governed, from smoking to food warnings. What happened to common sense and having personal decision making?

 

Anyway, as a result of all of these changes, we may end up spending more time in the safety and comfort of our cabin--not spending money in the bars and instead enjoying our drink and stinking up our cabin. Until smoking in cabins is eliminated, all you non smokers can be thankful that they do a good job eliminating the odor. If it is still there, remember that you got you wish about "public" smoking.

 

Jeanne

[The Real PM]

How refreshing to have a sensible and un-biased reply to this old chestnut!

 

Surely the crux of the matter is that all passengers should have proper regard and consideration for their fellow traveling companions, and conduct themselves accordingly at all times. Such consideration may well be not to splash on half a bottle of cheap perfume before getting into a crowded lift (elevator) to go to the dining room for dinner, or to insist on reciting ones life history at close quarters with alcohol-laden breath laced with the odour of garlic from the chicken Kiev that they had for dinner some hours before!

 

Let's face it, almost anything that we put into our mouths can kill if taken to excess; alcohol, sugar, saturated fats, and - yes, smoking. I well recall walking past Churchill's Cigar Lounge with my Wife, following two extremely overweight ladies, one of who commented "Hold you breath whilst we pass, or you could get cancer".

 

My layman's take on this is that the lady would probably be more likely to suffer from some cardio-vascular related disease due to being grossly overweight, rather than inhaling one or two breaths of diluted carcinogenic smoke.

 

I agree with your view on the "Holier than Thou" brigade, most of whom seem to have a somewhat blinkered outlook on life.

 

Incidentally both my Wife and I are smokers, but we always ensure that we do not inconvenience or affect any of our fellow traveling companions when we do indulge in our 'filthy and loathsome habit'.

 

Regards,

David

David,

 

Fifthy and loathsome and legal. Don't forget!

[Cruiser765]

David,

 

Fifthy and loathsome and legal. Don't forget!

 

Way to go Gail...David...quite simply brilliant!

 

 

Jackie :)

[The Real PM]

It is just too bad our opinions don't seem to change anything. Does anyone suppose a poll would do any good--or some sort of of petition? I have always felt that smokers were a bit too passive, so they became easy pickings for those holier than thou bullies.

[capnpugwash]

It is just too bad our opinions don't seem to change anything. Does anyone suppose a poll would do any good--or some sort of of petition? I have always felt that smokers were a bit too passive, so they became easy pickings for those holier than thou bullies.

 

Aren't passive smokers the other lot. :)

[The Real PM]

Aren't passive smokers the other lot. :)

 

 

I believe you are right Cap'n. And that is the only way I was able to quit many years ago, by smoking passively and lots and lots of dreams.

[david,Mississauga]

What really, really bothers me about the entire smoking ban is that

SMOKING IS LEGAL!!!

So until it becomes illegal then they should leave smokers alone. All those anti smokers have had their way and managed to cancel smoking, but I believe they will get theirs one day, just you wait. Because most of them like to drink and eat unhealthy foods, but both are already on the chopping block. Who knows what will be next. I can't wait to see their shocked faces when it happens to them!

 

Oh, and by the way, I am a non-smoker, but I really am not fond of holier than thou people.

 

I will not indulge in unnecessary shouting, but good grief, talk about over-simplifications. "Smoking is legal" - well, not exactly. It is only legal where not prohibited by law or by the order of the owner of the property. All aeroplanes and trains that I have been on in recent years are non-smoking and it's about time. In many countries restaurants, bars and many hotels are also non-smoking - even when not required by law. This issue has nothing to do with being "holier than thou." It's very simple: a person's right not to smoke must take precedence over a person's right to smoke. If I forced someone to indulge in one of my "sins" such as pouring a G&T or a butter tart down their throat this would be considered a criminal assault. So why should any smoker have the right to force an unwilling victim to indulge in their chosen habit or addiction?

 

Those of us of a certain age well remember the days when smokers were in the majority (or appeared so to be; some statistics say this was never the case) and very few ever gave any consideration to the effects of their actions. Indeed, when a person's lungs revolted against the carcinogenic attack and went into involuntary coughing, they were accused of putting on a performance. Forty years ago I used to hear the ridiculous expression: "The whole world smokes. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Well, the tide has turned and society is increasingly saying enough is enough. Many smokers don't like it, of course, but if they feel they are being victimised they need only remember the old days.

 

Having said that, I am not against people smoking. I have no objection to Churchill's cigar bar on the QM2, for example, because I don't have to go into it and even when sitting nearby in the lounge I would not have known what was going on inside if I hadn't looked. So if a restaurant or bar wants to have a totally separate room for smokers I have no objection, but of course that is not a decision I can make because the law says otherwise in many jurisdictions.

[The Real PM]

I will not indulge in unnecessary shouting, but good grief, talk about over-simplifications. "Smoking is legal" - well, not exactly. It is only legal where not prohibited by law or by the order of the owner of the property. All aeroplanes and trains that I have been on in recent years are non-smoking and it's about time. In many countries restaurants, bars and many hotels are also non-smoking - even when not required by law. This issue has nothing to do with being "holier than thou." It's very simple: a person's right not to smoke must take precedence over a person's right to smoke. If I forced someone to indulge in one of my "sins" such as pouring a G&T or a butter tart down their throat this would be considered a criminal assault. So why should any smoker have the right to force an unwilling victim to indulge in their chosen habit or addiction?

 

Those of us of a certain age well remember the days when smokers were in the majority (or appeared so to be; some statistics say this was never the case) and very few ever gave any consideration to the effects of their actions. Indeed, when a person's lungs revolted against the carcinogenic attack and went into involuntary coughing, they were accused of putting on a performance. Forty years ago I used to hear the ridiculous expression: "The whole world smokes. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." Well, the tide has turned and society is increasingly saying enough is enough. Many smokers don't like it, of course, but if they feel they are being victimised they need only remember the old days.

 

Having said that, I am not against people smoking. I have no objection to Churchill's cigar bar on the QM2, for example, because I don't have to go into it and even when sitting nearby in the lounge I would not have known what was going on inside if I hadn't looked. So if a restaurant or bar wants to have a totally separate room for smokers I have no objection, but of course that is not a decision I can make because the law says otherwise in many jurisdictions.

 

I am a simplistic person, what can I say. But I still maintain that smoking is legal--it is not illegal as far as I know in any place in the US with the exception of state of Vermont. There are many places that have banned legal smoking, but none the less it is not illegal--at least not yet. And those bans are because of whom?

 

My mother was a very wise, I am now finding out, and rather thoughtful about all things political. She always said and I shall quote, "Governments can not effectively legislate what is put into one's mouth." And I believe her shrewd quote. Just look at booze in the days of prohibition and the drugs of today. So prohibit smoking and watch its importance grow. Simplistic, perhaps, but very true!!! So people should be careful of what they wish for.

 

Simpistically,

 

Gail

[yarlenna]

I don't care what you put in your mouth - or any other part of your body. Please give me the same right. I do not want to have smoke in my body in any way. I think cruise lines need to give smokers places for them so they can smoke - and then when they are finished they can enjoy the rest of the ship - with out smoke. I would LOVE to try a cruise on Cunard, but I have to go where I am comfortable - and safe - away from lots of second-hand smoke.

[The Real PM]

I don't care what you put in your mouth - or any other part of your body. Please give me the same right. I do not want to have smoke in my body in any way. I think cruise lines need to give smokers places for them so they can smoke - and then when they are finished they can enjoy the rest of the ship - with out smoke. I would LOVE to try a cruise on Cunard, but I have to go where I am comfortable - and safe - away from lots of second-hand smoke.

On Cunard that is the way it is. Smokers have places where they must go if they smoke. There are smoking areas all through the ship as well as non smoking areas.:)

[Ericktina]

There are only two bars/lounges on the QM2 that allow smoking in very small areas. All others, including the Chart Room, Commodore Club, Sir Samuel's, Queen's Room, Winter Garden, Veuve Clicquot Bar, Atlantic Room, etc. are non-smoking. Plus, the casino has non-smoking nights.

 

Cruise lines, Cunard included, try to accommodate everyone.

I apologize--as I know this subject has bean beaten to death--BUT--the answer is still not clear. On the Cunard website under FAQ's, it specifically states

 

"Onboard QM2, each public room and bar have designated smoking sections..."

 

From what I read here, it seems there is no smoking in the Commodore Club--unless they are refering to Churchill's---and no smoking in the Chart Room. Can any recent cruisers clarify?? Thanks...

[capnpugwash]

I apologize--as I know this subject has bean beaten to death--BUT--the answer is still not clear. On the Cunard website under FAQ's, it specifically states

 

"Onboard QM2, each public room and bar have designated smoking sections..."

 

From what I read here, it seems there is no smoking in the Commodore Club--unless they are refering to Churchill's---and no smoking in the Chart Room. Can any recent cruisers clarify?? Thanks...

 

There are four or five tables plus the darts area in the Golden Lion Pub that allow smoking EXCEPT for about 90 to 120 minutes at lunchtime when lunch is served. The casino is smoking unless the one no-smoking night is in operation. The other area to smoke is Churchills in the Commodore Club.

[phillipahain]

The problem with the Casino area on the QV is that its right in the middle of the ship open to the whole area you have to walk through to get to restuarants etc

 

Smoking may well be Legal but theres an abysmal failure on the part of Carnival Corp and smokers themsdelves to understand the hell it causes many non smoking passengers

 

For some posters to also suggest that non smokers stuff themselves with other food thats bad for them is equally insulting

 

Many passengers these days are actually very careful about both what they eat and drink and do and this includes the amount of perfume or after shave they slosh around

 

Consideration for others is what is needed all ways around

 

We are not born with cigarettes hanging out of our mouths they are are bad "drug " habit that does affect other people

[Andiamo]

There are four or five tables plus the darts area in the Golden Lion Pub that allow smoking EXCEPT for about 90 to 120 minutes at lunchtime when lunch is served. The casino is smoking unless the one no-smoking night is in operation. The other area to smoke is Churchills in the Commodore Club.

 

 

Hi Cap.

 

I just left the ship this morning. The Queens Grill Lounge permits smoking. I had read the opposite. Yudani, bar staff, confirmed that for the World Cruise they had eliminated it, but it is reinstated. Anybody's guess for how long.

 

Regards,

 

Jeanne

[smoothdancer]

I too have no desire to debate this, but to the specific question.

Although at one time smoking was allowed in the Chart room, today this lounge is 100% smoke free. In addition, even when smoking is allowed in the casino smoking is not allowed ever at the casino bar.