sfaaa

Meanwhile down in the crowded bars on Deck 7, people were smiling. They spoke about the Islanders' way, how they love the beaches. And the cruisers came from everywhere, to the Columbus Cove. Seeking a beach cabana to chill, or the zip line to thrill. They call Labadee a paradise, I don't know why. You call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye.

I 've got a peaceful easy feeling there will be plenty of Tequila Sunrise served at Amber Cove but not at Columbus Cove.

3 hours ago, Laszlo said:

The DR has a good chance of being overrun 

Overrun by Haitian refugees, a possibility. Overrun by Haitian gangs, not a chance.

Unfortunately, things haven't gotten better in failed states like Somalia, Libya, Sudan and the likes. And Haiti is now in the same league as them.

2 hours ago, marshalltp said:

Are any Haitians or Dominicans concerned that Carnival is releasing 4000 in Amber Cove almost daily?

4,000 dangerous men with money in the pockets and 24k magic in the air. Who wouldn't be concerned?

On 3/12/2024 at 1:19 AM, sfaaa said:

"the transitional presidential council will operate by majority vote and be made up of seven voting members and two nonvoting members. The latter group will include one member of civil society and another of the interfaith community. It will exclude anyone under indictment or U.N. sanctions, or anyone who has been convicted of a crime."

 

No deal. This unrealistic proposal has now been rejected by various factions in Haiti besides BBQ.

Unless cartels want to engage in a heavy fire fight with Mex national guard rolling around in gun trucks mounting M2 Browning and M249, it would be wise for them to stay away on the day a cruise ship is in port. Cartels can have the run of the town again after the cruise ship leaves and Mex NG returns to their barrack..

Mexico takes security issue seriously in order to protect its tourism industry. That's why the Mexican navy, national guard and police always put on a show of force when a cruise ship is in town.

36 minutes ago, elcuchio24 said:

 

How many of those in Labadee?...hmmmm

Labadee becomes a ghost town after the ship leaves at 4PM and the place shut down. There is no one hanging around to get murdered.

1 hour ago, karena1 said:

.  We got out there before 8 and did not leave until almost 4.  It was so perfect!  Love Labadee.  

8AM is too late and 4PM too early. Well plan attacks usually take place at dawn or around 

O-dark-thirty. 

18 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Apparently a Haitian jet ski invasion is on its way loaded with souvenirs from Labadee.

Everyone should be worried. Lots of BBQ food joints in LA.

3 minutes ago, A&L_Ont said:

They were airlifted by chopper to DR when we were there in 2017/18.  

No go. DR air space is closed.

9 minutes ago, Ocean Boy said:

Because we have a spare 100 million hanging around.

I got more bad news. Kenya wants $230M bribe money before it will send 1k cops to Haiti as walking paper targets and cannon fodder. $100M is chump change.

"the transitional presidential council will operate by majority vote and be made up of seven voting members and two nonvoting members. The latter group will include one member of civil society and another of the interfaith community. It will exclude anyone under indictment or U.N. sanctions, or anyone who has been convicted of a crime."

 Yeah, brilliant plan. I am sure BBQ and his gangster criminal gunmen will agree to this and comply. 

57 minutes ago, UNCFanatik said:

ok… please let me know when they launch an invasion of Labadee from Cap-Haitien…

 

he just looked on google maps and said “look!! What’s that town closer to Labadee than Port Au Prince??!!!” It’s the well known staging point for a Labadee invasion!!!”

 

not ever gonna happen no matter how much hyperbole and overreaction ppl have 

They don't need to invade. Once BBQ gang overpowers the Haitian police and captures Port An Prince, they will become the next government and own the entire country including Labadee.

2 hours ago, phoenix_dream said:

Many posts here are always talking about the main point of these groups is taking down current leadership. Yes there is an intent to do that. But we are talking about thousands of prisoners.  Does anyone with any smarts actually believe they are all worried about that only and they have no intent to commit any other crime?!? 

Gangsters do what gangsters do especially when police are not around to stop them.

Labadee has no defense. There is no need to charge up the beach with Amtracks and guns blazing. Just walk up the beach brandishing some weapons will do the trick.

If capital Port Au Prince falls, the whole country and what's left of it also fall. It happened in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq under Saddam Hussein and Libya under Ghaddafi just to name a few. Distance alone does not offer any protection when the central government of a country is eliminated and its ability to defend itself no longer exists. 

I used San Pedro Princess shuttle a few times. It worked but can be confusing the first time. There was no signage or special instruction telling you where to go. I had to ask around before I found the right line up.   

US has also flown in additional marines to reenforce embassy MSG already stationed there. Troop deployment and staff evacuation all done by helicopters from embassy ground. Image of Saigon 1975 popped in my head.

Just now, NMTraveller said:

Was he referring to "Barbeque" the coup leader?

Both are deadly. High cholesterol or full of lead poison. 

4 hours ago, Pinboy said:

“ passengers head for a bbq ?

The answer:  That’s a “ Good One “ !
The question:  Where would we be during our visit (?) to Haiti?

Don't go near BBQ. Also stay away from all the black flies.

May be. But the looters will have to go through these bad azz looking dudes first and these aren't the outgunned Haitian police or Labadee mall cop A-Team.

https://www.haitilibre.com/en/news-41806-haiti-security-the-dominican-republic-strengthens-border-surveillance.html

I think Labadee has a better chance of being taken over by Haitian refugees than the BBQ gangs. When starving people run out of bare necessities to sustain lives, they will start walking towards areas that offer them a better chance of survival. It happens in every conflict zone around the world and Labadee will not be immune from this. 

DR is worry about  thousands of Haitian refugees rushing over the border more than Haitian gangsters. DR has rushed troops and armored vehicles to the border and will seal it shut as soon as there is sign of trouble.