I get your point Selbourne but not diminishing as much as you think. We now have the huge market of those inheriting parents properties which made lots of money in 80s and 90s booms. I am public sector pension and maybe around 10 years left, although it was not as good as those before me, it is not that much worse and will see me comfortably cruising several times a year. I presume Ventura and Azura will probably become adult ships only once Aurora and Arcadia are retired. I do agree on different expectations though as I was P&O through and through until I tried other lines and then I am hooked on them now as once you compare to P&O, in most cases there is only one winner. That being said I still love P&O for a lot of reasons and will continue to use them as suits.