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mayleeman

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    DIY home renov, gardening & piano (wife), reading, photoshop, swimming, Jayhawks
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    Celebrity
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  1. I read all that without any problem. @Sandman799 As I posted earlier, I was impressed with your honorable intentions. The trouble you've gone to explaining your rationale, and this follow-up conversation with RC asking specifically whether your plan is ok, are further proof. I wish you good luck with you imbibing on board. As always, hopefully the ship acts as the rep assured you. But you should know it is impossible to put any thread to bed on CC!
  2. Yes, if only everyone adopted racist policies to exclude Chinese earlier we all would be healthier and safe. Pay no attention to the non-Chinese who have carried the disease.
  3. @Hlitner Than you for discussing the details involved. That is my problem with the "don't need it, just assess the risks" advice--people reading that don't get the nitty gritty details of what might be entailed in a problem situation. I know you have sailed all over, and I would guess your post is the fruit of conversations with many people.
  4. By some posters' apparent definition, confining people, including American citizens, of Japanese descent (as little as 1/16 lineage) who lived in the western states and Hawaii in WWII (because it was considered they likely would sympathize with Japan) was not racist because most Japanese-Americans in Hawaii were not rounded up. Indeed, only a couple of thousand in Hawaii were confined out of @125,000 living there. (Interestingly, the number not confined in Hawaii was roughly the same as were interned on the mainland.) Both the Chinese passport policy and the Japanese-American "detentions" were based on 2 things: 1, a classification of a grouping based on race (technically a national grouping where only one race comprise/comprises virtually the entire nation), and 2, an unfounded assumption that someone who is identified under that classification is of sufficient danger to the community/country as to justify depriving that person of freedoms which are granted freely to people not in that classification. Yes, it was, and is, racist because of the assumption that the person is a threat because of a document, or ancestry, rather than any characteristic or action of that person. It has happened throughout history. It is the justification, precisely, for why Jews were forced to register early in Nazi Germany--the Party explained to the German citizenry that Jews were responsible for their defeat in WWI and all the economic chaos the Versailles Treaty reparations caused afterwards. For German humiliation to be expunged and the Fatherland to be protected from future Jewish predation, the Nazis claimed they needed to be able to control the threat, which would require identification, registration, curtailment of economic freedom, and eventual rounding up--and annihilation. Millions died ending that crime. Calling something racist is not a weapon designed to end conversation. It is designed to examine. Perhaps the policy was unintentional. That doesn't make it not racist. What is frightening to me is how many people are willing to sell other people's freedom down the river for even an irrational sliver of thinking they will be safer from an infection.
  5. This is really a silly argument. Okay, perhaps exceptions can be made, blah bblah blah... But why rely on getting a waiver or an emergency passport in a situation requiring medical care in a foreign country where you have no local transportation, probably don't speak the language, and need to take care of an injured or sick person, when you can avoid that mess of proving special circumstances by having a passport to begin with?
  6. @iancal The solution to just refuse sounds easy, but when it is a close family member like the OP mentioned there may be many other ongoing relationships involved, with the jerk being the gatekeeper to further contact with kids, cousins, etc. You sometimes have to face the inevitability of breaches akin to divorce tearing a family apart. Those may ultimately be the responsibility of the jerk, but it still involves complicated navigation. The question most of us deal with ultimately is, which is more exhausting? Dealing with an unending series of shorter messes, or dealing with the cataclysmic mess once?
  7. Unfortunately, that should be true but I have to say it positively isn't -- at least when a certain chemical compound available on ships in large, even unlimited, quantities is involved.
  8. Soda isn't free. Covered by any beverage package.
  9. Ditto on Blanton's. It isn't generally distributed in retail US markets. There is a great liquor store in Ste. Maarten that sells it. If that is on your itinerary, make another post, and I will look it up in my folder from my Oct Allure trip.
  10. Wouldn't you just love it if you took out travel insurance, your kid develops a severe eye infection, and when you found out you can't fly home some internet poster says, hey, no problem, just take you kid on a 30 hour bus ride to the border? Other helpful suggestions come to mind: she could build a raft, beg, find aluminum cans, make calls pretending to be the bank for a Nigerian prince...
  11. Yes, as he says--PLEASE take it elsewhere!
  12. @kathy49 Mask use is common in China even when no epidemic is threatened. Edit: I see @Psoque posted simultaneously.
  13. @Charles4515 @sparks1093 Certainly no warning from Carnival. In fact, the page cited by Charles specifically excludes cruises from the idea that passports are recommended! Wow, the effect is to say no need at all. Certainly no discussion of any risks. When traveling outside of the U.S. a passport is always recommended, but cruises are the exception to the rule.
  14. @Host CJSKIDS To clarify, does that mean no cutting and pasting with any content? I try to post a small excerpt and a link for attribution, which is expressly permitted under copyright law. Is CC policy stricter?
  15. @sparks1093 The problem is that most responses to questions from newbies do not give any advice about what the risks of not having passports might be. I have seen people then try to inform the questioner about med evacs, etc, and in reply there is a deluge of posts about how the odds are so low, never had a problem, etc. I agree people can and should assess the risks to make the decision, but it is very hard to have any idea what that means without reading extensively on CC for example. Percentage odds against needing it are meaningless in and of themselves (not saying that is how you do it; speaking generally). Here, the ability to use her travel insurance medical evac policy was useless--a novice like her might have no idea.
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