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  1. From the Washington Post travel section by Lisa Abend, they had this headline: “A local’s guide to Copenhagen” with these highlights: “When Copenhagen’s urban planners realized that cyclists coming over the bridge from Norrebro were riding over the sidewalk to turn down a one-way street, they didn’t post police to stop them from making the illegal crossing; they installed a new bike lane to make it easier for the cyclists. It’s that kind of attention that makes the Danish capital the most livable of cities. With ample green spaces, an inner-city harbor clean enough that anyone can — and does — swim in it, and laws that require all housing to be within 500 meters of public transportation, the municipal government takes its citizens’ well-being seriously.” The author has lived in Copenhagen since 2014 and shares a wide range of ideas and options for where to stay, dining, attractions, etc. Here is one of her dining insights and suggestions: "Smorrebrod — the open-faced sandwiches that are Denmark’s greatest culinary contribution — is as much a ritual as it is a dish. There’s no shortage of classic places famous for their huge menus and vast collection of schnapps. But for a more modern and seasonal take on the possibilities of bread, butter and toppings, there’s no place better than Selma. Here, the herring gets pickled in black currant vinegar; the beef tartar is studded with sea lettuce and wood sorrel; and even an old standby like boiled potatoes gets crunch from a sprinkle of hazelnuts and crispy chicken skin." We loved our canal boat tour in Copenhagen. Here is another angle/aspect to consider: "After a gawk at the 'Little Mermaid' statue, an organized canal tour is probably the most touristy thing you can do in Copenhagen. Real Copenhageners like to float around the harbor as much as anyone; they just prefer to do it themselves. These solar-cell-powered motorboats can be rented by the hour, seat up to eight, and come equipped with a picnic table perfect for propping up those bottles of rosé." Full story at: https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/denmark/copenhagen-local-guide/ THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio AFRICA?!!?: Fun, interesting visuals, plus travel details from this early 2016 live/blog. At 54,594 views. Featuring Cape Town, South Africa’s coast, Mozambique, Victoria Falls/Zambia and Botswana's famed Okavango Delta. www.boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2310337
  2. Appreciate this excellent follow-up and these great links. Very helpful! Don't be shy in sharing any other updates, important links, etc. Will post more Copenhagen visuals later. For a photographer and lover of "eye candy", Copenhagen is a dream. I also appreciate the unique and excellent history connected with this city and Denmark. It is a fairly small country now, but their traditions are charming and its major world position was very significant at one time. THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Amazon River-Caribbean 2015 adventure live/blog starting in Barbados. Many visuals from this amazing river and Caribbean Islands (Dutch ABC's, St. Barts, Dominica, Grenada, San Juan, etc.). Now at 72,277 views: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2076101-live-amazon-river-caribbean-many-pix’s-terryohio/
  3. Great above summary for the "trade-offs" and questions as to whether it is actually about "capacity control" or not!! From following closely the finances of parent Royal Caribbean, they are digging out of a serious fiscal hole created by the Covid shutdowns. Now, they are managing the rebounding demand and raising prices as allowed. But, if you are an all-inclusive line, you cannot be seen as too "greedy" in over-charging your loyal customers who expect both luxury and reasonable "value". Will be interesting to see how Silversea manages this dining location and its future charges. THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Norway Coast/Fjords/Arctic Circle cruise from Copenhagen, July 2010, to the top of Europe. Scenic visuals with key tips. Live/blog at 248,131 views. https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1172051-livesilver-cloud-norway-coastfjords-july-1-16-reports
  4. From our visits to Copenhagen in 2008 and 2010, below are just a few of my favorite visuals from this wonderful and charming city. Love Copenhagen totally!! Great for walking around as it is so flat and interesting. Excellent architecture, history, character and style. What is not to love and experience there? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Sydney to NZ/Auckland Adventure, live/blog 2014 sampling/details with many exciting visuals and key highlights. On page 23, post #571, see a complete index for all of the pictures, postings. Now at 244,628 views. https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1896175-solstice-live-australianzhawaii-many-pix’s-jan-20-feb-3/ Copenhagen's City Hall and its large Square are in the heart of the main downtown, near Tivoli and the central train station. Completed in 1905, it was designed in the "National Romantic" style with inspiration from the Siena City Hall. Dominated by its richly-ornamented front wth the gilded statue of Absalon just above the balcony, its tall, slim clock tower is 345.6 feet or 105.6 meters tall. It is one of the tallest buildings in Denmark.: (Open your screen/viewer wider to see these visuals larger/better!) Copenhagen’s Nyhavn or “new” Harbor is actually old and charming. This waterfront entertainment district is lined by brightly colored 17th and early 18th century townhouses and bars, cafes and restaurants. Serving as a "heritage harbor", the canal also has many historical wooden ships. Lots of people and fun activity!! It was constructed from 1670 to 1673, being dug by Swedish prisoners of war. It was a key "opening" from the sea to the old inner city where ships handled cargo and the catch of fishermen. It was "famous" for beer, sailors, and prostitution!! Surprised? Danish author Hans Christian Andersen lived at Nyhavn for 18 years.: A guard and statue in front of the current Royal Palace in Copenhagen. Amalienborg Slot includes four rococo-styled residences of Denmark’s royal family. This site includes a museum surrounding an octagonal cobblestone courtyard. You can witness the Royal guards walk from Rosenborg Castle to Amalienborg Palace for the Changing of the Guard daily at noon. Adult fee for museum about $13. For more info, see: ses.dk/amalienborg.: Rosenborg Castle in central Copenhagen now holds the Royal treasures. It was originally built in 1606 as a summer palace, expanded and put into its current condition in in 1624. It houses a museum exhibiting the Royal Collections, late 16th to the 19th century. This includes the Crown Jewels and the Danish Crown Regalia. Rosenborg is also a garrison for the Danish Royal Guard. They depart for duty at Amalienborg Palace’s Changing of the Guards at around 11:15 or 11:30 am and it ends at Amalienborg a little bit before noon.: Copenhagen's new Opera House across the canal from a charming fountain and near the current Royal Palace. This structure opened in 2005, costing $500 million with most of the funds coming from a Danish shipping company owner. Below are two different views/angles for this impressive new architecture.: This is the Gefion Springvandet fountain we walked past on our afternoon stroll back to our docked ship. This is Copenhagen’s largest monument and was built in 1908. It is based on a Scandinavian mythical tale of the goddess Gefion who plowed the island of Zealand out of Sweden. It was donated by the Carlsberg Foundation on the occasion of the brewery’s 50-year anniversary. Legend has it that the Swedish King promised the goddess Gefion as much land as she could plow overnight. She turned her four sons into oxen and set about accomplishing this herculean task. By the time dawn broke, she had ploughed a sizeable chunk, which she then tossed into the sea. From it sprung the island of Zealand, where Denmark’s capital now sits.: Here are my closer and longer shots of the Little Mermaid statute in Copenhagen’s harbor. This bronze statue by Edvard Eriksen is displayed on a rock and is 4.1 feet tall and weighs 385 pounds. It is based on the fairy tale by Danish author Hans Christian Andersen. While somewhat small and unimposing, it is a Copenhagen icon and has been a major tourist attraction since 1913. The statue was commissioned in 1909 by Carl Jacobsen, son of the founder of Carlsberg. In recent decades it has become a target for defacement by vandals and political activists.:
  5. Sorry, have not been, yet, to any of these locations. All sound good and interesting. More reasons to head back to Greece, explore more, enjoy their food and people, soak up the great history and culture, etc. THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  6. Glad to be the "winner" even with a little web assistance to find it more quickly. What's my prize? A free cruise to Iceland? From a quick web search, I found this info about the port: "Grundarfjörður is known for its extremely unique climate and nature, while a small peninsula is formed by the nearby mountain Kirkjufell. The Kirkjufell Mountain is indeed the most photographed place in Iceland and reflects the immense beauty of nature." Looks like a very scenic and interesting location. Right? Love your picture of the two horse. Share more!!! Please!! Saw this one visual from the web: More at: https://icelandtravelguide.is/locations/grundarfjordur-village/#:~:text=Grundarfjörður is known for its,the immense beauty of nature. THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Norway Coast/Fjords/Arctic Circle cruise from Copenhagen, July 2010, to the top of Europe. Scenic visuals with key tips. Live/blog at 248,131 views. https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1172051-livesilver-cloud-norway-coastfjords-july-1-16-reports/
  7. Are you in or around Grundarfjörður, Iceland?? From this website: https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:-23.252/centery:64.928/zoom:15 I found the location of the "Silver Store". Is that cheating? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  8. From the London/UK Times, they had this headline: “India travel guide" with this sub-head: "What to do, where to stay and why you’ll love it.” Here are a few of their key highlights by Prachi Joshi: “Travelling in India can overwhelm your senses with myriad sights, smells and sounds. One moment you might be gazing at the snowclad Himalayas in Ladakh and the next sipping beer and eating fried fish at a beach shack in Goa. Then there’s the contrasting architecture: swanky malls in Bengaluru and ancient archaeological wonders. What you will remember the most are the people; the warm smiles and hospitality of more than 1.3 billion souls, a largely young population embracing modernity while firmly holding on to traditions and culture.” This summary/suggestions fit perfectly for our starting schedule/plan for February 2024: "One of the first travelling tips for India is 'do not attempt it all'. With an area equivalent to most of western Europe, a single trip will barely scratch the surface. Spend a few days in the capital city of New Delhi ticking off the big-name sights: Mughal-era Red Fort, Jama Masjid, Qutub Minar, and Humayun’s Tomb. Immerse yourself in the frenetic markets of Chandni Chowk before finding a moment of peace at the landscaped Lodhi Gardens. Then there’s Agra for the Taj Mahal — best visited in the early morning or towards sunset to avoid the tourist hordes." Full story at: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/travel/destinations/asia/india/ THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Barcelona/Med: June 2011, with stops in Villefranche, ports near Pisa and Rome, Naples, Kotor, Venice and Dubrovnik. Great visuals with key highlights, tips, etc. Live/blog now at 256,748 views. https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1362155-solstice-livefirst-timer-reportspix’s-italycroatian-june-7-19/
  9. Appreciate this great wifi update and follow-up. Keep us posted as to how things are working on the Silver Moon. Getting ready for a February 2024 Silver Moon sailing, 18-day, Mumbai to Singapore. Nice to be "connected" when sailing in distant and exotic locations. THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  10. Love the great comments and follow-up above from our skilled and experienced neighbor in the Philadelphia suburban areas. Yes, there are challenges as some ports/cities do not want too many of the big cruise ships dumping thousands of tourists to over-run their communities. Also, agree that those younger, new customers want interesting and unique experiences and destinations. That's part of their challenge . . . and opportunities for the future. BUT, reading the economic crystal ball is still a factor that is hard to predict. As this below article details, experts are worrying less about a major recession coming soon. Will there be a "safe landing"?? During Thursday's Royal Caribbean executive briefing with analysts, there were no questions about the economy slowing down and its potential negative impacts on the cruise lines. That's a change from previous financial briefings. From the Wall Street Journal this morning, they had this headline for their lead story: “How the U.S. Economy Is Sticking the Soft Landing" with this sub-headline: "Companies are pulling back but are reluctant to make job cuts that could spur a recession.” Here are some of their reporting highlights: “To see what an economic soft landing looks like, search no further than business hiring. Parts of the economy are cooling, just as the Federal Reserve would like to see to combat inflation. Freight railroads, for instance, are seeing shipping volumes decline. Construction firms are cutting back on equipment purchases. A vending-machine company’s customers are negotiating prices downward. Yet the key to a measured, inflation-busting slowdown that doesn’t sink the economy lies in whether companies hold on to workers or lay them off.” Also cited was: "Fresh economic data this week reinforced optimism that inflation can fall without the U.S. suffering a recession. Economic output accelerated in recent months on the back of solid consumer spending. Inflation cooled to 3% in June, according to the Fed’s preferred gauge. And wage growth, while still elevated, slowed, the Labor Department said Friday." Full story at: https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-the-u-s-economy-is-sticking-the-soft-landing-cf140c04?mod=hp_lead_pos1 THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Athens & Greece: Visuals, details from two visits in a city and nearby with great history, culture and architecture. Now at 56,081 views. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1101008
  11. Appreciate these great, various comments and follow-ups. My view from listening to a large number of these briefings in recent years is that these cruise executives monitor customer and economic trends closely. YES, they want to maximize revenue now, but they know it could change quickly. They are not blind to such customer and economic fluctuations and shifting moods. More later. From the Wall Street Journal late this afternoon, below are their weekly charts for the three major cruise lines. Clearly Royal Caribbean lead the way with their highest levels in more than three years. Today/Friday slowed a little compared to Thursday's huge upswing. What for next week? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Amazon River-Caribbean 2015 adventure live/blog starting in Barbados. Many visuals from this amazing river and Caribbean Islands (Dutch ABC's, St. Barts, Dominica, Grenada, San Juan, etc.). Now at 72,277 views: https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/2076101-live-amazon-river-caribbean-many-pix’s-terryohio/ From the Wall Street Journal late today, below are the charts for the three major cruise lines during the most recent five trading days. Big swings up for all three!! Right?: (Open your screen/viewer wider to see these visuals larger/better!)
  12. Are older folks unfairly the subject of humor? Or, true? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  13. YES, I like this idea for exercise. Those of us who are married understand these things. Right? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  14. For our upcoming Silver Moon, Feb. 11-29, 2024, Mumbai to Singapore sailing, below is a screen shot what they show right now for the La Dame price as being at $60 pp. Will it change? They do have a typo as they refer to it being for the Silver Muse, when we will actually be sailing on the Moon. Details?? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  15. Am 100% with our wise neighbor from Arizona. Not worth it, or even close, at $320 per couple for us. Depending on the sailings and demand, maybe they will "discount" this jacked-up sticker price and offer "specials" to those new to cruising with SS and/or those who are long-time customers. Lots of "Marketing Tricks" can be played to fill it up or make people think they are getting a "deal"?? Having listened to the top Royal Caribbean parent CEO, CFO, etc., types this morning during their Second Quarter stock market report, it is all about increasing revenue and trying to provide better "value" compared to land-based vacations and adventures. The "bean-counters" are in charge and know they have lots of debt and expenses to cover. THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Norway Coast/Fjords/Arctic Circle cruise from Copenhagen, July 2010, to the top of Europe. Scenic visuals with key tips. Live/blog at 248,131 views. https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1172051-livesilver-cloud-norway-coastfjords-july-1-16-reports/
  16. From the brief this morning by Royal Caribbean CEO Jason Liberty, plus their CFO, etc., below are some of my highlight rough notes and quotes: The often repeated theme of “strong second quarter results” came through multiple times, including for record wavy period for bookings and how things have "gotten better". A key new item was reflecting increased Europe interest and bookings as to how this helped drive this market success for this summer. Occupancy is viewed asback to normal, but they cannot predict for next year (2024). As to the "State of the Consumer", they see strong demand and people still having "excess savings". It was stress by CEO Liberty that consumers still "want experiences over goods”. They see conditions as still being in a “multi-year catch-up period” They also point to a higher by a wide margin for those who are "new to cruising" with their first-time bookings. Over and over they noted that cruising is a better value than land-based vacations. Mention was made the three new ships for 2023, include the Silver Nova. There was much emphasis as how many are doing more “weekend get-aways” with shorter options. While that might not be true for Silversea, but it applies significantly with their other brands. Much of this shorter sailing emphasis is to compete with land-based options and vacation competition. They cited multiple times their strong cost controls to drive their future revenue and bottom-line. For all of their brands, the Caribbean is about 55% of their business. Europe is 17%. They cited an acceleration in demand, especially from Europe customers. Alaska is about 6% of their capacity and they have added ships for there. Load factors in Alaska are over 2019 bookings. Several mentions were made for their plans to return to China in 2024. It was noted they have $3.2 billion in new debt for the ships coming on-line this year, but that they can manage that debt load. They will look for “opportunistic” ways to pay-down and manage debts and obligations. During the Q&A period, they noted a "Very good booking environment" and that the “Outlook is really bright”, plus “Feel really about the demand”. They want to “optimisze revenue” not just to look at booking numbers. They focus on “yield levels". Managing despite higher expense for staff costs and field, etc., was cited and they want to “Expand/grow our margins.” They detailed Europe vs. US consumer recovery patterns and differences.. On bookings, they are looking both at numbers, but also the rates paid. They said it is not just the new "hardware" (new ships) driving these trends. They will have more dry-docks to do in 2024 to make up for their ships missing those upgrades during Covid. Revenue involves both in bookings and on-board. Been surprised by their ability to raises prices and keep high booking levels. Land-based higher prices has allowed them to raise their cruise pricings. On-board price/revenue up is driven by making it easier to get customers to book those options in advance and for it being easier through the web. There were several discussions on their “Perfect Day” captive Caribbean port stops and these special island options through the Royal Caribbean brand. That does not apply for Silversea. They said they are seeing no indicators of softness, only an acceleration. "No indicators of weakness" was a clear message. Much was cited on exploiting the value gap and advantage provided by cruises versus other vacation options. "Nothing structural that put it at risk to grow the business. We seek to grow the yield faster than the margin." There was no mention or questions as to any type of looming recession and/or economic down-turn. Will it be avoided? Hope these rough notes are not too much, but that they offer a flavor for these discussions. Prices are not going down. Book and plan early. You can listen to full, 48-minute audio of today's RCL briefing with Wall Street analysts, plus charts at: https://events.q4inc.com/attendee/823317881 THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Venice: Loving It & Why??!! Is one of your future desires or past favorites? See these many visual samples for its great history and architecture. This posting is now at 105,155 views. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1278226
  17. YES to dawntrdr and many other Silversea customers who have opened your wallets and spent money to fund Royal Caribbean and their various brands!!! Wall Street investors like what you are doing. Just completed listening to the full report by the Royal Caribbean CEO, CFO, etc., doing their second quarter review with the stock analysts. Plus, the important and varied questions and answer period. Will share more on those important details shortly. From the Reuters newswire late this morning, they had this headline: “Royal Caribbean cruises to three-year high on record revenue, strong outlook” with these highlights: “Cruise giant Royal Caribbean raised its full-year profit forecast on Thursday after posting a record for quarterly revenue, sending its shares to a three-year high on Thursday.Royal Caribbean and rivals have benefited from pent-up demand as travelers flock to cruises that are seen as a good value when compared to land-based vacations. That has allowed the companies to raise prices as well, boosting margins. CEO Jason Liberty said 'Percent of guests that were either new to brand or new to cruise surpassed 2019 levels by a wide margin.' ” Also noted: " 'Booking commentary was very bullish and appears to affirm continued acceleration in bookings and pricing even into recent months,' said Barclays analyst Brandt Montour." This is another chart shared during the corporate stock presentation: Full story at: https://www.reuters.com/business/royal-caribbean-raises-annual-profit-forecast-resilient-demand-2023-07-27/ THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Sydney to NZ/Auckland Adventure, live/blog 2014 sampling/details with many exciting visuals and key highlights. On page 23, post #571, see a complete index for all of the pictures, postings. Now at 244,521 views. https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1896175-solstice-live-australianzhawaii-many-pix’s-jan-20-feb-3/
  18. YES, the cruise lines are not being shy right now for figuring out to raise on-board revenue and get loyal and new customers to pay more. But for how long will this "jack it up" treatment last? Fully into 2024? Or, continuing into 2025? When will the "bargains" and pre-Covid pricing/values return? From this Wall Street Journal-related Investor's Business Daily this morning, they had this headline: “RCL Stock Sails To 3-Year High On Q2 Earnings Rout, 33% Rise In Guidance” with these highlights: “Cruise lines rallied briskly Thursday after Royal Caribbean trounced estimates for Q2 earnings and sharply hoisted its full-year outlook. RCL stock soared to its highest mark since early 2020. Cruise lines have posted powerful gains through 2023 as consumers cut loose to spend on vacations delayed by pandemic lockdowns. Royal Caribbean reported adjusted earnings leapt to $1.82 per share compared to a loss of $2.08 per share last year. Revenue spiked 61% to $3.52 billion.” Here is one of the charts provided during this morning's presentation by RCL Executives: Full story at: https://www.investors.com/news/rcl-stock-sails-to-3-year-high-on-q2-earnings-rout-33-rise-in-guidance/?src=A00619&refcode=aflMarketWatch THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Norway Coast/Fjords/Arctic Circle cruise from Copenhagen, July 2010, to the top of Europe. Scenic visuals with key tips. Live/blog at 248,033 views. https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1172051-livesilver-cloud-norway-coastfjords-july-1-16-reports/
  19. From the Wall Street Journal near mid-day, below is their chart that shows the Royal Caribbean stock to be up, UP, UP in a huge way this morning. Am catching up now as I had a dental appointment this am. Will post later some added news reports from the 10 am Q/A session with stock analysts, etc. They must like what they are seeing for the RCL stock to be rising so super fast. The other two cruise stocks rose near 5% this morning. THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Barcelona/Med: June 2011, with stops in Villefranche, ports near Pisa and Rome, Naples, Kotor, Venice and Dubrovnik. Great visuals with key highlights, tips, etc. Live/blog now at 256,700 views. https://boards.cruisecritic.com/topic/1362155-solstice-livefirst-timer-reportspix’s-italycroatian-june-7-19/
  20. Are the items below related to any cruises you might have done in the past? But, hopefully, not when sailing with Silversea? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  21. From a company press release this morning, they reported their: “Second Quarter Earnings” with these highlights: “Royal Caribbean Group today reported second quarter Earnings per Share of $1.70 and Adjusted Earnings per Share of $1.82. These results were significantly better than the company's guidance due to stronger pricing on closer-in demand and further strength in onboard revenue. As a result of the accelerating demand environment for its vacation experiences, the company is increasing its 2023 Adjusted Earnings per Share guidance by 33% to $6.00 – $6.20.” Many, many details and specifics are outlined in this release. Then later this morning, they will hold a briefing for Wall Street stock analysts, answer various questions, etc. More later. Full story at: https://www.rclinvestor.com/press-releases/release/?id=1663 THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  22. Great above sharing of Rolling Stones past experiences and memories. For Mick and others who age, is below what will happen in the future to become Hip-Op artists? THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio
  23. Excellent that there are so many fans for Mick Jagger and the Rolling Stones. Glad that Dolcevita Diva, Grand Duchess and Lirio have all enjoyed live, in-person concerts with this amazing music/entertainment group. Still time to catch them in the future? Below is some BONUS coverage as to how their stage set-ups are not exactly small and subtle. THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Here is Mick super BIG on the large screen, twice, plus two other visuals from this summer of 2015 Ohio Stadium concert. Plus, the four of them finishing at the end of the show.: (Open your screen/viewer wider to see these visuals larger/better!)
  24. Appreciate these great, above comments and follow-ups. Keep it coming. Excellent sharing. From the London/UK Guardian last month, they had this headline: “Singapore bids farewell to horse racing to free up land for housing" with this sub-headline: "City-state is to close its only turf club in order to redevelop 120-hectare site for public housing amid declining popularity of the sport.” Here are more of their reporting highlights: “More than 180 years of horse racing in Singapore will soon come to an end, as the 'land scarce' city state closes its only race course to make space for public housing. The final race meeting will take place on 5 October 2024, when the club holds its 100th Grand Singapore Gold Cup. The site will then be handed back to the government in 2027 for redevelopment.” Clearly, horse racing is not what it used to be. BUT, land is also very limited and valuable in Singapore. Interesting background. Full story at: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/08/singapore-bids-farewell-to-horse-racing-to-free-up-land-for-housing THANKS! Enjoy! Terry in Ohio Panama Canal? Early 2017, Fort Lauderdale to San Francisco adventure through Panama Canal. Our first stops in Colombia, Central America and Mexico, plus added time in the great Golden Gate City. Now at 32,154 views. http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=2465580
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