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Dawn cruises out of Venice are now online.

But still with several gaps in the schedule, and the repo cruise(s) to Venice is/are still missing.

I have the feeling Dawn offers two weekly interchanging routes from Venice, and the second one still needs to be uploaded yet.

Just saw on the Amsterdam Port website that Brilliance will be there in the summer of 2020. Any ideas what kind of itinerary this will be?

Mostly 12 night Baltic and British Isles roundtrips out of Amsterdam, I'd guess. :)

But I also see her calling in shorter frequencies of 5-7 nights. Maybe she also offers some short cruises and 7 night runs to Norway, as she has done in 2012 as well.

Any idea which ship will go to Iceland?

NCL Star several times. She’s likely to take over Spirits itineraries from 2019.

-Star: starting from Southampton to: Iceland/Norway, British Isles, probably Baltic

-Jade: starting from Amsterdam and maybe Hamburg later on, to: British Isles and Norway, probably Baltic

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So 6 ships in summer 2020 in Europe like in 2019?

 

 

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Yes, that's most likely.

The summer itineraries that have been posted today currently exclude NCL Star and Jade, the candidates for Northern Europe in summer 2020.

I am sure they will follow until December.

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Cruiseweekly on instagram stated that NCL Pearl will be based in NYC throughout the summer season 2020, including sailings to Bahamas, Bermuda’s als Canada/New England, up to 11 nights!

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Does anyone know when Ms. Koningsdam is scheduled for her first Drydock?

 

I am looking at a 2019 sailing, but am wondering if there will be a drydock by that time.

Typically ships go into drydock every 4-5 years. So expect her to be in drydock by 2020/2021.

Great work gents!!

Interesting to read about Serenade

 

I find Royal has a history of doing this... replacing a ship with another in the exact same class to perhaps “freshen things up a bit”? Plus Oz has a history of taking over Royals older ships of their class (or. Voyager, Legend, and now possibly Radiance). Maybe because they feel your market is familiar with the ship names and thus the market branding is already enforced in Aussie’s minds?

Another RCI "tradition" is that ships were redpeployed to Europe after a fall/winter/spring season in Australia NZ (Nov - Apr) and an Alaska season the summer prior to Australia.

We've seen that with Rhapsody in 2014/15, Explorer in 2018/19, so it could also be that Radiance comes to Europe in 2020.

But a year-round Australia deployment is also possible, of course.

I'd love to see three RCI ships sailing Alaska in 2020, but I wouldn't really know which itinerary the third ship should sail. RCI has two major itineraries there - roundtrip from Seattle and northbound/southbound between Vancouver and Seward.

Until 2009, when RCI had three ships in Alaska, there was a Vancouver round-trip (on Serenade), but a rather uninspired itinerary, IMHO.

From my side it wouldn't be necessary to add it.

However I'd love to have the "Ultimate alaska" sailings back, starting in Los Angeles and ending in Vancouver or vice versa. Those were nice 12 night itineraries covering a lot of different ports!

Hi springaussie,

Thanks for your researches.

We’ve discussed the topic several posts above, the port site of Monterrey names Serenade otS as “Celebrity Serenade”, but when you open her link by clicking, you will be redirected to RCI. So take for granted that Celebrity Serenade is Serenade otS.

Great you’ve found the Astoria port, that underlines Serenades West Coast/Alaska deployment!

We’ve also discussed if Serenade will be the 3rd RCI ship in Alaska, or if she will replace Radiance on the northbound/southbound itinerary, so that Radiance stays in Australia year-round.

For years now there’s the ongoing rumor of a year round Australia deployment by RCI. Radiance might make this rumor come true.

Further there’s a new Brisbane terminal, if I’m not completely wrong.

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Isnt it Havana with the tunnel that limits draft?

Yeah. But inerestingly, Majesty of the seas has a higher draft (8.53 m) than Vision-Class ships (7.77 - 7.92 m).

So this shouldn't be a problem at all.

So you think Vision class would fit in Cienfuegos & Santiago de Cuba?

I wanted to say, if Majesty goes, a Vision Class ship may take over her itineraries. But Majesty just sails Cuba itineraries with Havanna, not Cienfugos or Santiago.

So I'd say any of the remaining Vision Class ships sails the "Havanna only" itineraries from Majesty, and Empress stays on her itineraries with Cienfugos and Santiago.

I just thought that they needed the smaller ships to get into Cuba.

Majesty otS and Vision-Class ships are very similarly sized. So if Majesty leaves the fleet, Vision-Class ships will could easily take over the Cuba itineraries.

The UK cruises have been selling very well! Hopefully they will carry on having a home port in the UK... it is so useful!

 

 

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As some port schedules state, NCL Star is the most likely candidate for Southampton.

She is not listed there directly, but other ports show her. The calls are very comparable to those of NCL Spirit in 2019, which sails from Southampton next year.

It’s easy to derive though that Star will replace her in 2020.

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It's difficult for this to happen because Norwegian Epic is already listed again for the 2020 season in Palma's port in the same itineraries as the previous years.

Of course, Epic could be a placeholder or the deployment might be changed.

But anyway, for the deployment season of 2020, there’s several question marks for me: which Breakaway-Plus-Class ship sails from NYC during summer? Which Breakaway-Plus class sails Alaska, apart from Joy?

Where does Escape really go? Questions, questions...

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Yeah, I have seen the same.

I am wondering if Escape is coming to Copenhagen, IMHO it would make sense.

But I am also wondering that Bliss is sailing out of NYC until April 2020. Actually she is the ship for Alaska.

If she heads black, she needs to do a very long reposition via Panama Canal from NYC to Seattle.

I could well imagine that Encore sails from NYC during summer season.

Further it seems to me that NCL Pearl is replacing NCL Dawn our of NYC in 2020.

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NCL Star is listed in Reykjavik in 2020 several times, and once at North Cape, more or less the same pattern as Spirit's itineraries in 2019.

So NCL Star should be the candidate to sail from Southampton in 2020.

http://www.faxafloahafnir.is/cruiseships/index.php?pid=1&csyear=2020 - it's best to switch to "List of visits" to have the best overview.

Further NCL Jade is listed in Amsterdam several times in May/June 2020, and once in Le Havre in July 2020, with destination Hamburg. Seems she will offer a full Northern Europe season in 2020 again.

If The Jewel does replace The Serenade. Would The Jewel also do the Trans Atlantic sailing to Boston and the cruises to Canada?

If RCI holds the same pattern as in recent years, yes, it’s very likely.

But it’s not possible yet to predict that.

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But capacity in Alaska is reduced because Explorer is apparently not returning in 2020. A second Radiance class ship would work well in Alaska with seasonal deployment to Brisbane. The annual TPs on Radiance always sell strongly too.

No, there's no capacity loss in either 2019 or 2020, because EXPLORER (3800 passengers) is going to be replaced by OVATION in 2019 already (4800 passengers), Radiance (2500 passengers) stays.

So if Radiance is going to be replaced by Serenade (same size as Radiance) and Ovation returns to Alaska in 2020 (which is extremely likely, IMHO), there's no change at all in capacities.

If Serenade JOINS Radiance and Ovation, capacity would be added by Serenade which carries up to 2500 passengers.

If they do what they did last year, the first batch will be released in November/December 2018. Remaining itineraries will be released in spring 2019.

According to a facebook page, wheee the admin is mostly well informed from authorized sources, the due date for the new 2020 deployment is November 2018 (I am sure the deployment list is meant), because until that time a decision is made if Oasis will be transferred to Galveston or not.

And Explorer to Melbourne for a full season in 2020/21, spotted by springaussie...

http://www.vicports.vic.gov.au/cruise-shipping/Pages/cruise-ship-schedule-1.aspx

Of course it could be a placeholder for another ship, but I don't think Royal would bother concealing identity in this case.

RCI and X have set placeholders several times in the past, so in theory Explorer could be a placeholder here.

However it would still make sense if she came back to Australia in 2020/21.

After Europe she easily could do a Transsuez cruise via the Arabian World and India/Singapore down to Australia.

That would make sense.

Good catch. Typo is weird, but I would assume it is actually referring to Serenade of the Seas, as the same agent would be making both RCI and X port bookings.

 

Maybe she heads to Alaska. Replacing Radiance? Adding capacity?

Both could be possible.

That Serenade sails to Alaska and West Coast on 2020 makes certain sense, because Jewel is extremely likely to replace Serenade on her Northern Europe parts.

Serenade could either join Radiance and Ovation as a third ship or Radiance sails year-round from Australia.

I know there’s a circulating rumor about a year-round Australia deployment, maybe it becomes reality in 2020.

Seems we get a major shifting for some ships:

-Quantum 5: Cape Liberty

-Anthem: Southampton

-Allure: Barcelona

-Oasis: Galveston (?)

-Jewel: Copenhagen/Stockholm

-Serenade: Alaska and West Coast

-Radiance: Australia year round (???)

-Explorer: Civitavecchia

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My guess would be that Jewel goes to Stockholm in May for a longer period of Baltic cruises from there and back in August.

 

Another ship (Serenade?) will do cruises from Copenhagen with more focus on Norwegian Fjords.

 

Cruises from Amsterdam could still be Brilliance, maybe still with some British Isles Cruises similar to next year.

 

Southampton with Anthem and Indy is confirmed but both will not focus on Norwegian Fjords or Baltic due to size restrictions. Both are confirmed for ports like Le Havre, Zeebruegge and Hamburg, they will offer only few options to the North and with main focus on the big ports. Most of their cruise will go southward I trust.

I tried to figure out something:

I've also seen the two Klaipeda calls for Jewel otS.

My guess is, the Klaipeda call in May 2020 could be a call on a longer 10/11 day roundtrip from Copenhagen, as Serenade and Vision have done in 2017.

So I think between May and June, Jewel will sail out of Copenhagen to Norway/North Cape and Baltic, as Serenade does currently. In June/July/August Jewel could do the weekly cruises from Stockholm and returns to Copenhagen in August, and she calls Klaipeda again on the repo cruise from Stockholm to Copenhagen in August.

In June on her repo from Copenhagen to Stockholm she probably excludes Klaipeda.

Here I think Serenade could be deployed elsewhere, because Jewel replaces her...

Regarding Indy otS: You might be right on the focus on Med cruises, but I just found few Med calls for her.

So I figured out the 13th of July, 09th and 31st of Aug 2020 she could do the Baltic cruise - but 13 nights without Stockholm!

Anthem otS could be a candidate for Northern cruises due to her large enclosed Solarium, but she has several calls in Med ports, such as Cannes/Nice or Gibraltar, so that indeed leaves very few options for Northern European cruises.

Amsterdam should be the homeport for Brilliance otS again - she has several calls there in 2020.

I also found this information that NCL Pearl is likely to come to Northern Europe in 2019, would be nice!!

Let’s see when her new itineraries will be on sale.

Interesting because that would mean a capacity decrease in Alaska, compared to 2018, because in 2019 only Bliss and Jewel would remain there.

But I am sure Bliss could sum up two Jewel-Class ships with her capacity of 5400 pax.

Further Pearl and Bliss sail the same itinerary from Seattle more or less...

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for all you people who have children...just remember they are YOUR children NOT anyone elses....so "Letting them run riot" et. al. is selfish, inconsiderate and just as juvenile as your children's obnoxious behavior. Just because you have children don't think everyone else has to tolerate your lack of disciplining/parenting and put up with your wild unruly kids. one would think most people would be agast if you let say your dog run riot all over the ship...so neither should you allow your kids do the same.

SO TRUE!!!!!!!

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I am guessing she either doesn't have a set itinerary at this time which seems unlikely or she has been chartered out for part of that time.

That would be a long charter period.

For the 2018 season where NCL Gem is based in NYC, she also featured a large gap in September and October 2018. It was filled later with longer Canada/NE sailings between NYC and Quebec.

I guess such itineraries will be added for Dawn later on for Sep/Oct 2019. That’s just my guess.

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