mferranti

From reading the comments from the Founders members, I don't think any of them seriously thought they would automatically be Zenith. It was more wishful thinking.

 

But who knows, I may be wrong.

We really lucked out with the Founders status. We signed up and authorized payment for $30 p/p to join. Before the charge hit my credit card, I got an e-mail saying the program had changed but we would still be enrolled as Founders.

(Some here would probably be angry at missing out on the $50 pp credit X gave paying members.) :rolleyes:

I must be having a senior moment, or day ,or month but can someone answer this...

I`ll vote for us Founders members ! In our early cruise years we tried all the different lines. We have 40 cruises and 20 of those on Celebrity. If we had stayed with Celebrity on all we would be Zenith by now.

However, other conversion scenarios also work, e.g. each original point could be worth 25 new points, and a one-time bonus (at a factor of 20%) is added to bring the totals up to 150 for Select (125 + 25 bonus points); to 300 for Elite (250 + 50 bonus points); to 750 for Elite Plus (625 + 125 bonus points) and to 3000 for Zenith (2500 + 500 bonus points). This would permit Celebrity to slow down the rate at which people can reach the new levels by valuing each future cruise at 25 points, and giving bonus points for other elements (suites, length of cruise, onboard spend) at whatever rate they choose. The difficulty here would be if it gets too complicated, people will hate it. However, it seems to work over at HAL.

Oh intersting, ok. So I'll be platinum on RCCL for a looooooooong time as I'd have to get up to Diamond on RCCL before getting those benefits. Or would reciprocity kick in again and i'd be diamond when i hit elite on X?

Which is why I asked for details. I cannot figure out how it was possible, but there might have been a small handful out of the many thousands who fell through the cracks. I'd like to see the numbers.

mferranti - "HARD" to become "Zenith" - I will be dead before I can get 3000 points... :p We are actually are "Founder" Members from when you had to pay - yes pay - $35 to join - which we did and it was the best money we ever spent. Years later, when it became free to join, Celebrity refunded us a SBC of $50. We should automatically become "Zenith" Members...:) That is what a qualkity company would do... Don't you think????

Should they make every current Elite a Zenith? I could make a case for it. Yesterday Elites were at the top of the club; if we're now third from the top that's a loss of status, isn't it?

By the same token, Classic members were only two levels from the top; obviously they have to all become Elite or they're being cheated. And all current Preview members should immediately become Select, so they remain three levels down.

Does that eliminate our knowledge of it too?

I think one of the reasons they are not "keeping the old way" is that it was way to easy to become Elite.

Didn't RCL do something similar when they changed their system?

why wouldn't they just keep the system that's in place but just add higher levels?

My opinion: Lawn Club is better (much better) than Qsine. Murano is better than either of them. Tuscan Grill is best of all.

And they do NOT know yet how the conversion is going to work! How is that possible and why would they update part of the info and not how to factor points/credits.

We have 8 points now, book a TA starting on Monday, which would have given us 10 points so that would be Elite

New system 240 points plus 10 points for cruise + 10 points for over 12 days , that mean we still be short 10 points for Elite , that would be a bummer !

I am missing something :confused:

Did anyone clear this up? We have 9 points now (=270 in the new system) an extra 50 points added right now (=330) would put us into Elite for our upcoming cruise. This would be a nice thing if true.

The devaluation of the points gives Celebrity a lot more flexibility to use them as incentives — for a cruise booking as we've seen with the advance 123 promo, and on board too. I can foresee things like "spend $50 in the shops, get 5 tier points" and lots more coming. :)

Every time "grandfathering" comes up in these discussions I wonder what some posters mean by the term. Sometimes it seems people want to be locked into the top tier of the club no matter what happens, or still be one or two cruises away from the top if that's where they are now.

If and when levels are added I fully expect there to still be at least two levels below mine, but I certainly don't expect to be in the program's top level just because at the moment I am.

So if I post twice will I get 600 points :)

This entire thread seems like it should have been on April 1 as it seems Celebrity has fooled everyone once again.

If as many as 25 "tier points" are to be given as a booking bonus, then I doubt it's a 1-point-equals-1-night correspondence.

A waiter? I'm not buying until I hear it from a pool butler.

You could also reserve a specialty restaurant for the evenings you expect to be late.

The menus never change during a cruise, but if you dine in a restaurant several times they might offer to make you something off-menu.

Once I saw someone served a simple grilled steak and a large platter of French fries.

Should the chef shop at a farmers' market every morning instead? :confused:

yes they do. We did it once about 5 years ago..

 

the one we did stopped at pisa for about an hour and then dropped you off in florence and you had 3 (maybe 4??) hours to explore on your own.