Rare BecciBoo Posted October 2, 2009 #251 Share Posted October 2, 2009 No hard feelings. I’m sure our discussion is for the best of interest to our fellow Cruise Critic friends. :) No offense taken...:D Just trying to warn people of the dangers of those networks. But I don't think the Coke thing is a right comparison. There are instances of someone's head that were posted on these sites that have turned up on someone else's body, etc. in questionable places and no legal help because of their contract. It's a conundrum, but worth considering before relying on your copyrights as you post pics. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpw45 Posted October 2, 2009 #252 Share Posted October 2, 2009 Sue, take those Spin to Win coupons to the casino and you will correct that deficiency in no time flat. Keychains are practically guaranteed.;) Not for all of us. I was on the Enchantment OTS Sept 24-28 (just missed all the excitement). I had coupons for 4 free spins. They give you 3 tokens per spin. Tried 3 times and got nothing, not even the keychain. So I kept the last 3 tokens as my souvenir. Better than a keychain anyway. Carnivals blogger-in-chief, John Heald, was on the Legend at the time and added information to his blog. Sure enough, one passenger wanted compensation even though they suffered no loss. They should be charged extra for the entertainment and the story they'll be telling over and over again. http://johnhealdsblog.com/ BTW, I like RCL, but would have to say the best 2 cruises have been on Carnival. I am a beef eater and they had better cuts and consistency than I've had on RCL recently. Last week on Enchantment OTS, I commented that RCL had come up to Carnival the first two dinners. Unfortunately, they did not sustain it for the next 2 dinners. Still enjoyed the cruise and would sail either Carnival or RCL again. Gordon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincurt Posted October 2, 2009 #253 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I think what really happened was that all the passengers on the Legend headed over to the port side to admire the Enchantment as they went by. Thus tilting the ship in that direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 01Sweetpea Posted October 2, 2009 #254 Share Posted October 2, 2009 I think what really happened was that all the passengers on the Legend headed over to the port side to admire the Enchantment as they went by. Thus tilting the ship in that direction. :D That's good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aurelius180 Posted October 3, 2009 #255 Share Posted October 3, 2009 I think what really happened was that all the passengers on the Legend headed over to the port side to admire the Enchantment as they went by. Thus tilting the ship in that direction. I thought the Carni Operator was distracted admiring the Enchantment and drove where he was looking. Enchanted by the Enchantment if you will. I avoided posting it because I had left my flame-retardant suite at home. but since you opened the can.... :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allboyz Posted October 3, 2009 #256 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Check out this site. Has a pic as well as the story. http://www.usatoday.com/travel/cruises/item.aspx?type=blog&ak=68500121.blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houlacruiser Posted October 3, 2009 #257 Share Posted October 3, 2009 do you think after the gentle rubbing of the two ships we will end up with some little ships in 9 months. rofl!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thameth Posted October 3, 2009 #258 Share Posted October 3, 2009 No offense taken...:D Just trying to warn people of the dangers of those networks. But I don't think the Coke thing is a right comparison. There are instances of someone's head that were posted on these sites that have turned up on someone else's body, etc. in questionable places and no legal help because of their contract. It's a conundrum, but worth considering before relying on your copyrights as you post pics. Nuff said. Yes there are some real concerns with posting your information on any of these networks or even anywhere online if you want to get picky. This is all controlled by the sites EULA (End User License Agreement) from when you sign up, which you had to do to sign up to CruiseCritic also. But just because something is posted in a EULA doesn't make it law or fully binding. Just as if the EULA somewhere in the fine print said that because you've signed up for this website all your property now belongs to CruiseCritic or Facebook. They could put that in there, doesn't mean squat until its fought in a court of law. Same reason why just because you post an image or video on any of those websites doesn't exactly mean you give up sole possession of that work and even more doesn't mean that anybody in the world now has permission to use it because its "magically" become public domain. The problem with posting something online is that it is tough to police the spread of that file or information once its out in the wild, not that its now "free" for anybody to use. Also on the side of "viruses" and such.... no offense but your husband is being a bit paranoid. If he doesn't allow you on Youtube then this forum is MUCH MUCH more dangerous that website, better hope he's not logging your usage..... :) Anybody can post a link to a malicious website in the body of a message here that can completely take control of your computer instantly, especially depending on what browser your using (aka Internet Explorer...... or any other really). Even worse, I hope you don't use e-mail either or wifi, much worse than any website. :p Just like in real life, the internet is a dangerous place. But that doesn't mean we don't go outside, so you can tell him he can loosen up a little bit and enjoy Youtube, Facebook, and whatever major website. Your best defense, just like anything, is to learn and use the internet intelligently not just avoid everything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincurt Posted October 3, 2009 #259 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Competition for the cruise dollars has now risen to a new level. Time to roll out the cannons mates.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lori450 Posted October 3, 2009 #260 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Competition for the cruise dollars has now risen to a new level. Time to roll out the cannons mates.:eek: ROTFL - I love it!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coxswain Posted October 3, 2009 #261 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Anyone ever been close to a parting mooring line - the whistles of it before it breaks wow Ahhhh to be linesman again lol jj...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_K Posted October 3, 2009 #262 Share Posted October 3, 2009 Yes there are some real concerns with posting your information on any of these networks or even anywhere online if you want to get picky. This is all controlled by the sites EULA (End User License Agreement) from when you sign up, which you had to do to sign up to CruiseCritic also. But just because something is posted in a EULA doesn't make it law or fully binding. Just as if the EULA somewhere in the fine print said that because you've signed up for this website all your property now belongs to CruiseCritic or Facebook. They could put that in there, doesn't mean squat until its fought in a court of law. Same reason why just because you post an image or video on any of those websites doesn't exactly mean you give up sole possession of that work and even more doesn't mean that anybody in the world now has permission to use it because its "magically" become public domain. The problem with posting something online is that it is tough to police the spread of that file or information once its out in the wild, not that its now "free" for anybody to use. Also on the side of "viruses" and such.... no offense but your husband is being a bit paranoid. If he doesn't allow you on Youtube then this forum is MUCH MUCH more dangerous that website, better hope he's not logging your usage..... :) Anybody can post a link to a malicious website in the body of a message here that can completely take control of your computer instantly, especially depending on what browser your using (aka Internet Explorer...... or any other really). Even worse, I hope you don't use e-mail either or wifi, much worse than any website. :p Just like in real life, the internet is a dangerous place. But that doesn't mean we don't go outside, so you can tell him he can loosen up a little bit and enjoy Youtube, Facebook, and whatever major website. Your best defense, just like anything, is to learn and use the internet intelligently not just avoid everything.... You have it backwards, it's binding until a court determines otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LHP Posted October 4, 2009 #263 Share Posted October 4, 2009 Just got back from Cozumel...we were on the Valor and in port with the Legend and Enchantment in Belize....so that was all the buzz. It is always funny to hear how out of control the "facts" get. By the time the word hit the Valor in Belize (perhaps the word HIT is a poor choice LOL) folks had one having a huge gash with passengers being evacuated to another cruise ship. Thankfully those exaggerations were quickly put to rest. On another note.... Paradise Beach had the joyful experience of all their water toys being broken from their anchors and tossed about. The GOOD NEWS is that only one toy got slightly damaged...but since they have added so many toys the count is up to TEN (without the damaged trampoline)...all was good on Friday when we were there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nianticcruisers Posted October 5, 2009 #264 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Just found out about this accident 5 minutes ago on the news here on CC damn! we have a cruise booked on RCL Enchantment of the Seas on 10/22/09 hope all is OK when we board. You just never know what is going to happen on a cruise!;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelothouse Posted October 5, 2009 #265 Share Posted October 5, 2009 :) We were on the Starboard ship-side when the collision happened and felt no contact whatsoever. The instructions from the bridge were incredibly clear and urgent to clear the port area as the side-winds against the Legend were over 50mph and were driving her to near the Enchantment. As you can witness from others great pictures not all passengers appears to take these instructions with any degree of seriousness. Some had to be physically removed from the pool complete with drinks in hand. If accurate it was reported that it was the Port pilot that was doing the maneuvering and the Legend Captain had to override him to prevent more damage to the ships. The journey continued with what I can only describe as incredible service from all the staff on the Legend and apart from the incident was the best cruise we have been on (and we have been on quite a few). Congratulations Carnival Legend. To the credit of all on board, with the exception of a few jokes ( CR wearing life jacket at the show) I never heard one passenger complain or mention anything about free handouts. There will undoubtedly be someone with a vivid imagination but thank goodness we did not meet each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julieanne Posted October 5, 2009 #266 Share Posted October 5, 2009 :) We were on the Starboard ship-side when the collision happened and felt no contact whatsoever. The instructions from the bridge were incredibly clear and urgent to clear the port area as the side-winds against the Legend were over 50mph and were driving her to near the Enchantment. As you can witness from others great pictures not all passengers appears to take these instructions with any degree of seriousness. Some had to be physically removed from the pool complete with drinks in hand.If accurate it was reported that it was the Port pilot that was doing the maneuvering and the Legend Captain had to override him to prevent more damage to the ships. The journey continued with what I can only describe as incredible service from all the staff on the Legend and apart from the incident was the best cruise we have been on (and we have been on quite a few). Congratulations Carnival Legend. To the credit of all on board, with the exception of a few jokes ( CR wearing life jacket at the show) I never heard one passenger complain or mention anything about free handouts. There will undoubtedly be someone with a vivid imagination but thank goodness we did not meet each other. We were just going into the dining room. The collision was very mild, more noise than anything. We were asked and did clear the decks. The majority were crew members running out to the port side on deck 3. The winds never hit 50 mph. Check out wunderground: highest recorded wind gust was 29 mph and at 5 pm, 8 mph with just over 15 mph from the west. Now, since we were there, I have to say, this was poor judgement. IF, the wind gusts were that high (since a weather station did not record wind gusts that high.....), I could understand it but, they weren't. They did hit the pier at the stern first and then collided with Enchantment. I did of course joke about open bar to get over the trauma........;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julieanne Posted October 5, 2009 #267 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Pilot only advises he is never in charge !! jj..... That is correct..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julieanne Posted October 5, 2009 #268 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Both are headed to Belize. Wonder how far apart they will make them stay. :D LOL! They avoided each other like the plague! The cruise was excellent. Service above par and food was excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelothouse Posted October 5, 2009 #269 Share Posted October 5, 2009 We were just going into the dining room. The collision was very mild, more noise than anything. We were asked and did clear the decks. The majority were crew members running out to the port side on deck 3. The winds never hit 50 mph. Check out wunderground: highest recorded wind gust was 29 mph and at 5 pm, 8 mph with just over 15 mph from the west. Now, since we were there, I have to say, this was poor judgement. IF, the wind gusts were that high (since a weather station did not record wind gusts that high.....), I could understand it but, they weren't. They did hit the pier at the stern first and then collided with Enchantment. I did of course joke about open bar to get over the trauma........;) Thanks Julieanne for the "wunderground" weather report. However I did not pick the number of the wind velocity out of a hat. I quote from Carnival October 1st 2009., "While maneuvering our departure from Cozumel, UNEXPECTED winds of 50 mph pushed this vessel (Legend) against the RCC Enchantment of the Seas" Captain Giacalone Carnival Cruise Lines. This communication was issued to all passengers on-board the Carnival Legend. I do appreciate that if you were inside the ship approaching the dining room, as you were, the velocity of the gusts would indeed be hard to judge with any degree of reasonable accuracy. However I was outside on the Starboard side where the wind was plummeting the ship and I was having considerable difficulty continuing to photograph under these the conditions, a problem I rarely encounter to such a degree at 29mph. I do agree that regardless of the exact velocity and remember the concussion effect against the "Imagination" and the "Legend" would make the decision to depart at that particular time more in question. No doubt the Maritime Board of Enquiry as well as the Insurance companies will sort this out. Thanks for your interest and reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
najames Posted October 5, 2009 #270 Share Posted October 5, 2009 They did hit the pier at the stern first and then collided with Enchantment. I did of course joke about open bar to get over the trauma........;) I should have known you were involved in this incident somehow. :D Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare marielco Posted October 5, 2009 #271 Share Posted October 5, 2009 to drug testing etc... No excuse for such poor ship handling even with a sudden gust of wind. WOW quite a rush to judgement!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoosinCruisin Posted October 5, 2009 #272 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Sorry if this was already covered, but does anyone know who the current Captain is on the Enchantment? Thanks all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwolfe Posted October 5, 2009 #273 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm still surprised that no pictures of Enchantment have appeared yet. Then again, that might meant she didn't take much by way of damage at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massfriends Posted October 5, 2009 #274 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'm still surprised that no pictures of Enchantment have appeared yet. Then again, that might meant she didn't take much by way of damage at all. There in this thread...........http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1069677 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillB48 Posted October 5, 2009 #275 Share Posted October 5, 2009 That is correct..... Almost....:D! At the Panama Canal, the pilot is in control, command and assumes complete responsibility. It's fairly simple, if the ship, captain etc. don't accept this, then it is the long way around:eek:! Pilots in harbors elsewhere are in an advisory capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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