Bridges300 Posted January 20, 2005 #1 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Hi, Can anyone tell us abouth the kids programs on Zuider? Our TA says that HAL is making a big push for the family trade, but being experienced Carnival and RCL cruisers with there strong kids programs we are a little hesitant? Any info would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doone Posted January 20, 2005 #2 Share Posted January 20, 2005 While HAL is making a strong effort to market their cruises for families, especially on the Zuiderdam, I don't think you will find the kids program as strong as on the other lines you have sailed. I am not saying its not good, but possibly not as good as what you have experienced in the past. From what I undertand, the hours of Club HAL aren't as good as some of the other lines, but I think your kids will have a good time on the Zuiderdam. My nieces and nephews a few years back sailed on the Veendam during Feb school vacation week. This was their first cruise, so they had nothing to compare it with, but they thought Club HAL was fantastic. We are planning another family cruise in 2006 and the kids can't wait to participate in Club HAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridges300 Posted January 20, 2005 Author #3 Share Posted January 20, 2005 Thanks very much for the reply.The late hours in the other line's programs really do make the parents trip a lot more enjoyable. It gave us the flexibility to be with our kids during the day but really enjoy "our nights". Does anyone have specific info on the hours of Camp Hal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doone Posted January 20, 2005 #4 Share Posted January 20, 2005 From what I remember on our Veendam cruise, the children's program at night was from 8 pm - 9:45 pm, nothing else after that. Club HAL had 2 hour or so programs in the morning, 2 hour or so programs in the afternoon and the evening ones, this was on sea days. While in port during the days, no Club HAL program were offered. From what I read, it may not be the flexibility you are looking for. We sailed with the entire family, so we kind of had people to watch the kids here and there. It worked out great for us, hope it does for you as well. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridges300 Posted January 21, 2005 Author #5 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Why would they limit there camp Hal hours like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intandemNV Posted January 21, 2005 #6 Share Posted January 21, 2005 We just got back from a week on the Westerdam( Same ship as Zuiderdam basically). Our 9 year old daughter loved Club Hal. The hours were somewhat limited 10-12, 2-4pm, 8-10pm; but they would take her later for $5 hr. She loved this program better than Princess and the two counselors were terrific. We were happy to have our daughter with us during off hours so it was great. Also, Half moon Cay has a fun new children's water park that was great, as well as a playground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doone Posted January 21, 2005 #7 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I guess its because not alot of kids sail on HAL vs. some of the other cruiselines, but HAL is definately trying to change that. Like I said, my nieces and nephews loved Club HAL as I am sure your family will as well. We found that because there weren't alot of kids onboard and the activities for Club HAL weren't overflowing with kids, my nieces and nephews kind of got individualized attention from the counsellors onboard, that made them feel special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylar64 Posted January 21, 2005 #8 Share Posted January 21, 2005 We were on the Veendam last year with our family and 6 children that were a variety of ages. The kids did some of the programs, but mostly stayed with us. I think all of us as adults agreed that we kind of enjoyed having the ship not overflowing with kids. It enabled us to keep better tabs on our own, and the pools were not overcrowded. With being on a smaller ship than some of the Carnival and RC, it was so easy getting on and off the boat for excursions. We saw the other lines for the other ships trying to get back on board and it took them hours. Many very unhappy children in those lines. We just walked on by to our ship or the tenderer. Our kids ranged from 3 to 11 at the time. This year we are sailing on the Zuiderdam in the spring, and are looking forward to the enhanced kids programs for the little ones, but the older cousins are comfortable hanging out with the adults and going in and out of the programs. The kids had nothing to compare to as far as the programs, but they really seemed very happy and content with what they had to do between movies, pools, and fun excursions. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMAN Posted January 21, 2005 #9 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Doone...I agree 100%! That's why our 7yr old loves HAL..more individual attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doone Posted January 21, 2005 #10 Share Posted January 21, 2005 I also think that's why my nieces and nephews enjoyed Club HAL so much and can't wait to go back. We all thought Club HAL was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMAN Posted January 21, 2005 #11 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Doone...02/03/05 we're on the Wonder...but my mind in on the ZUI in June! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doone Posted January 21, 2005 #12 Share Posted January 21, 2005 Tyman, you'll have a great time. We're looking at another family cruise for Feb. 2006, the kids are so excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYMAN Posted January 21, 2005 #13 Share Posted January 21, 2005 That's what makes the time go buy! Excitement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doone Posted January 21, 2005 #14 Share Posted January 21, 2005 You Got It!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Horse Posted January 21, 2005 #15 Share Posted January 21, 2005 We are travelling with two fifteen year old girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivesLikeMario Posted January 22, 2005 #16 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Haven't sailed HAL yet, but with the other cruise lines, my kids MUCH preferred the ships that didn't have tons of kids onboard. The counselors are more relaxed and do more fun activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertmartha Posted January 22, 2005 #17 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Have to agree with all the other posters and my 9 and 7 yr old will agree...Club HAL. We are sailing on the Oosterdam this summer and my kids cannot wait. My two girls loved the smaller program - where they were 1of 15 vs 1 of 50+. We sailed on the RC Mariner last yr - and yes it has the rock climbing, ice skating, minature golf....but those they did with us. As for the camp - they did not enjoy it as much as the Maasdam and ZUiderdam. Much smaller ratio on HAL - and the activities were much better - they had a POOL party on each ship! one night. That did not happen on Celebrity or RC. Tie-dyed shirts, scavenger hunts, and Half Moon Cay pirate scavenger hunt. ...need I go on.... + now with extended hrs 10-12 (which is what we felt was the only thing missing). I'd rather be on a ship with 100 kids then 700...and so would my kids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylar64 Posted January 22, 2005 #18 Share Posted January 22, 2005 whole heartedly agree with you. Hey, how was that scavenger hunt on Half moon cay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertmartha Posted January 22, 2005 #19 Share Posted January 22, 2005 skylar My girls enjoyed it - BUT it was the middle of August....it was HOT. I think they would have rather been in the water the whole time. I can't wait till we are back at Half Moon...kids water park, horseback riding, stingrays, ...I wish they would overnite at Half Moon. It is so beautiful there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bridges300 Posted January 22, 2005 Author #20 Share Posted January 22, 2005 Thanks for all the responses. In large part because they were so positive we went ahead and booked the Zuider today for the 04/02/05 cruise. Anyone elso cruising then? Have opened up a roll call thread for this trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylar64 Posted January 23, 2005 #21 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Great for you. I'm sure you will all have a wonderful time. We are sailing in end of March. Have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertmartha Posted January 23, 2005 #22 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Bridges Good for you. Soooo jealous that you are sailing in a few weeks - we have over a foot of snow here in NY...just thinking of Half Moon and being on a ship......I'm looking for the Feb 06 presidents week schedule.......need it NOW....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Tak8 Posted January 23, 2005 #23 Share Posted January 23, 2005 We were on the Z. during her inaugural year and my then 9 year old enjoyed the kid's program. In fact, we will be back on her this summer. I have to agree that the Treasure Hunt on HMC wasn't the most enjoyable time spent on HMC. My son would have rather played in the sand or taken another banana boat ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arubalisa Posted January 27, 2005 #24 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Our 8 yo daughter loved Club HAL and consulted the activity list each morning so she could inform US what HER plans were to be that day. There were a wide variety of activities and she enjoyed everyone on the Club HAL staff Some here on this board would tell you that HAL is not a kid's cruise line... some here would tell you that the kids had a good time "only" because it was a "Holiday" cruise. I find it hard to believe that any of the ship's staff, including the stewards would treat any of the children differently "only" because we sailed during a holiday. IMHO, they do not see enough children and appreciate them all that much more... The kids will have a great time, go and enjoy!!! Holland America Youth Program Guidelines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump1999 Posted January 27, 2005 #25 Share Posted January 27, 2005 Is there a fee involved for the children to play in the waterpark and in the playground area? And is it supervised by HAL counselors or do we supervise them in there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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