flbeachmom Posted June 11, 2010 #1 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Me and hubby have US passport, 3 of our children do not. Live in fl. And taking a 7 day freedom cruise for Thanksgiving. Cruised many times and they keep pushing back the deadline for "must have passport".. I know they "should" have a passport ( just in case), but is it required? Keep getting differ answers from TAs who should know, looked at Gov website also can't get my brain around that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellyJean Posted June 11, 2010 #2 Share Posted June 11, 2010 As long as you embark and disembark at the SAME U.S. port, a U.S. passport will suffice. Refer to the FAQ on Royal Caribbean's web site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flowers44 Posted June 11, 2010 #3 Share Posted June 11, 2010 The passport question is on a lot of threads. They way it was explained to us is if it is a closed circuit cruise, you sail from and return to the same port, you do not need a passport, only picture ID and a birth certificate. Your TA should know this. Look on RCI website and it may be explained there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue L Posted June 11, 2010 #4 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Me and hubby have US passport, 3 of our children do not. Live in fl. And taking a 7 day freedom cruise for Thanksgiving. Cruised many times and they keep pushing back the deadline for "must have passport".. I know they "should" have a passport ( just in case), but is it required? Keep getting differ answers from TAs who should know, looked at Gov website also can't get my brain around that one. As long as you are US citizens and taking a cruise that is closed loop, meaning leaving and returning to the same US port then a birth certificate, state certified copy and a photo id for over age 16 then you are good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flbeachmom Posted June 11, 2010 Author #5 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Do the kids need a passport or can I use the birth certificates like I did 11/2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flbeachmom Posted June 12, 2010 Author #6 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Oh u answered my question while I was asking! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kely98 Posted June 12, 2010 #7 Share Posted June 12, 2010 We had to show our passports when we took our Eastern Caribbean cruise (in 2005). It left from Miami and returned to Miami. But we stopped in the Bahamas our first stop, then our next stop was a US Virgin Island (St. Thomas) so we had to all go downstairs to the theater to show our passport. I think it's better to be safe than sorry...passports don't take as long anymore to get (as when I got mine in 2005 when they started talking about tighter restrictions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseguy1016 Posted June 12, 2010 #8 Share Posted June 12, 2010 We had to show our passports when we took our Eastern Caribbean cruise (in 2005). It left from Miami and returned to Miami. But we stopped in the Bahamas our first stop, then our next stop was a US Virgin Island (St. Thomas) so we had to all go downstairs to the theater to show our passport. I think it's better to be safe than sorry...passports don't take as long anymore to get (as when I got mine in 2005 when they started talking about tighter restrictions) If you are a U.S. citizen, you should not have HAD TO show your PASSPORT. You probably had to show some form of ID and the passport was what you had with you so that is what you showed. A passport IS NOT required for a closed loop cruise. If all you had was your birth certificate and a photo ID, that would have sufficed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaK Posted June 12, 2010 #9 Share Posted June 12, 2010 We had to show our passports when we took our Eastern Caribbean cruise (in 2005). It left from Miami and returned to Miami. But we stopped in the Bahamas our first stop, then our next stop was a US Virgin Island (St. Thomas) so we had to all go downstairs to the theater to show our passport. I think it's better to be safe than sorry...passports don't take as long anymore to get (as when I got mine in 2005 when they started talking about tighter restrictions) You didn't have to show your passport. You could have showed your certified birth certificate and photo ID instead. (Children under 16 do not need photo ID) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imsulin Posted June 13, 2010 #10 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Perhaps kely98 is NOT a US citizen?? That could explain the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherylandtk Posted June 14, 2010 #11 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Maybe, but a lot of people confuse having to show proof of citizenship (and using a passport to do that) with having to have a passport. They are not mutually inclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritaontherocks Posted June 14, 2010 #12 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Does anyone know about how long it takes to get a passport now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue L Posted June 14, 2010 #13 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Does anyone know about how long it takes to get a passport now? they are currently running about 3-4 weeks, un-expedited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aloha of the seas Posted June 14, 2010 #14 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Whenever I read a thread on this subject I am amazed how people put so much concern into needing a passport. If they just went out and got one they would not have to worry. Is it the cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVALUATOR Posted June 14, 2010 #15 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Whenever I read a thread on this subject I am amazed how people put so much concern into needing a passport. If they just went out and got one they would not have to worry. Is it the cost? Maybe it is easier to get a fake birth certificate and photo ID than a fake passport.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeNJ1109 Posted June 14, 2010 #16 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Every time I see a thread here on CC regarding Passports, my first thought is, "Here we go again." The above posters pretty much said it all ... "closed loop cruise", then "No a passport is not necessary" if you're a US citizen, however the proof of citizenship that you bring has to be State Certified (Raised Seal is the norm in the NJ / NY/ CT tri state area). I'm just waiting for the day that the US State Department finally rules that it's got to be "Passport Only" ... it just seems to make sense considering the times that we live in now-a-days. However, being the pragmatist that I am ... I suspect that the pressure that would be put to bare from the CLIA and other interest groups has me believe that rule will never come to be...which means we'll be seeing more threads going forward regarding "are passports required ...?" Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr3boys Posted June 27, 2010 #17 Share Posted June 27, 2010 This may sound very stupid, but do you need to bring a marriage license to show legal proof of last name change from birth certificate to drivers license??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMMRRC Posted June 27, 2010 #18 Share Posted June 27, 2010 This may sound very stupid, but do you need to bring a marriage license to show legal proof of last name change from birth certificate to drivers license??? You do in my state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMMRRC Posted June 27, 2010 #19 Share Posted June 27, 2010 This is what the Royal Caribbean website has to say: Q: Are there any special requirements for visiting international ports? A: There are two things to keep in mind when traveling internationally: Passports/Visas U.S. Citizens will need valid passports in order to leave and enter the United States. Non U.S. Citizens will need valid passports and sometimes visas, as well as any other travel documentation required by the governments of the countries on the itinerary. For visas/inoculations, please check with your travel agent, government agencies, embassies or consulates, your physician local health department or the Center for Disease Control and Prevention's Traveler's Health website to determine travel and health documentary requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley10 Posted June 27, 2010 #20 Share Posted June 27, 2010 This may sound very stupid, but do you need to bring a marriage license to show legal proof of last name change from birth certificate to drivers license??? If your name on your birth certificate doesn't match the name on your ID, I would recommend bringing the marriage license. However, I only travel with my passport and photo ID internationally, and both use my married name. It's easier just to have the passport. On an unrelated note, the only time I'm ever asked to provide my green card is when I travel on RCI...I'm a U.S. citizen, so the request makes me laugh. I guess they assume that because my husband is a Canadian with a green card, I must be as well. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richiebaseball Posted June 27, 2010 #21 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Every time I see a thread here on CC regarding Passports, my first thought is, "Here we go again." The above posters pretty much said it all ... "closed loop cruise", then "No a passport is not necessary" if you're a US citizen, however the proof of citizenship that you bring has to be State Certified (Raised Seal is the norm in the NJ / NY/ CT tri state area). I'm just waiting for the day that the US State Department finally rules that it's got to be "Passport Only" ... it just seems to make sense considering the times that we live in now-a-days. However, being the pragmatist that I am ... I suspect that the pressure that would be put to bare from the CLIA and other interest groups has me believe that rule will never come to be...which means we'll be seeing more threads going forward regarding "are passports required ...?" Michael Your observations are spot on. When the latest phase of the WHTI went into effect in June, 2009 it was titled as the final ruling on WHTI meaning that there were no more planned changes. That rule included the exception for "closed loop" cruises for US citizens. And yes the cruise lines lobbied hard to get that exception written in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEMMRRC Posted June 27, 2010 #22 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Your observations are spot on. When the latest phase of the WHTI went into effect in June, 2009 it was titled as the final ruling on WHTI meaning that there were no more planned changes. That rule included the exception for "closed loop" cruises for US citizens. And yes the cruise lines lobbied hard to get that exception written in. What happens if the cruise itinerary changes and the disembarking port is no longer the embarking port? Or even more complicated, the cruise terminates at a foreign port? How does one re-enter the USA then without a passport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st mate Posted June 27, 2010 #23 Share Posted June 27, 2010 IMO, I would just get a passport. Once you cruise you are going to want to go again. They last for several years (adults longer the children) and one book is easier than several pieces of paper. We went to the trouble to get them for our children years ago. It may cost a little, but I figure pay a little now or perhaps pay alot later. And on another thought, we carry our passports when we leave the ship. I assume there might be a greater risk of needing them when we were off the ship. I would rather have it and not need it than not have it and have to depend on it.:eek: Once you have a passport it is simple to renew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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