Disclosing Age Demographic Before Booking

[michmike]

Am reminded of my mother-in-law, who wouldn't go to a movie theatre because you didn't kniow who you would be sitting next to.. *L*

 

If you research the various cruise lines, itineraries and seasonal swings in the type of clientele, you can pretty much figure out who would be on board.

 

At the same time, I think those who fret about the release of their "personal data" in a simple demographic report are a bit paranoid (on 2nd thought, more than a bit.. jmho)

 

I'm just rude and overbearing to those I don't want around me.....they get the hint and leave and the problem resolves itself *L*

[sun~]

As an FYI, on every ship that I have sailed on with my sons, the kids ages are posted on the door of the kids club. Super easy to compile and print out. General info like 0-2 3 children, 3-5 15 children etc. A few seconds work to print it. It would have been even more helpful if we had that info earlier. We have done a few March break cruises (our school break in Ontario where MILLIONS of children are off school). No worries about meeting friends for the lads. On one cruise that we did in May on HAL (the elderly Grandparents idea) there were only a handful of kids and a dismal kids program. It wouldn't have been our choice. If my In Laws knew how few kids there were on the ship (the Maasdam) they may have reconsidered and booked another ship.

 

One poster mentioned Princess having an older demographic. I was pleasantly surprised when a friend and I went on the Crown Princess in Nov. '09 (western Caribbean). Not only was it a mixed demographic, there were 6 weddings on board. I suspect there were lots of single bride's maids on board! Apparently the week before we were on the CP, it was a floating retirement home (Quebec City to Fort Lauderdale).

[SWLinPHX]

Hellooooo again everyone....

 

It's been quite some time since I visited this thread, although I am the original poster. Everyone had good points and I don't expect the cruise lines to release the information to the public because it would surely not benefit them. I was merely musing on the fact that they collect all that data anyway for each sailing and could easily have it posted and updated daily, just like they already do with which cabins are booked and not (which many sites do allow you to see). Of course just like with that, you would log on to a website if interested; I never mentioned phone calls or cruise lines notifying passengers themselves or changing any rules.

 

To put this in perspective where I'm coming from: Keep in mind that this is my first non-chartered cruise (general public) in over 8 years. That was my first cruise. I was excited, had spent substantial money, and then I get to the pier and I see a ship that resembled the demographic at a retirement home or a place like Sun City, here in AZ. And that was an 11-day cruise with first 5 days in a row at sea! You can imagine how I felt with that last-minute "surprise". I didn't see anyone close to my age in days and it did affect my experience. Even if you don't care about romance, you still may want to have some peers around. And even if that doesn't matter to you, there is little to no nightlife when everyone is a senior (they just closed down the night club). It made a huge difference and has nothing to do with disrespect for the elderly. I actually get along great with them and always have.

 

Perhaps I'm over paranoid because I have that single memory in my head (and again, for 6 days at sea -- the weather was inclement too so no time spent at pool). The two subsequent cruises were chartered and cost a lot more. They were fun but I actually missed the diversity of all ages and wasn't really into nightly circuit parties on the top deck. I wasn't looking for a meat market (which it was). It went from one extreme to the other. This time I'm hoping for just an "average general public" cruise, as if I'd booked a hotel in Vegas.

 

Now, since I know cruises are different and demographics depend largely on cruiseline, duration and time of year, this thread gave me an idea. My friend and I are coming off this 10-day on Celebrity Equinox and just decided to book a back-to-back -- we now hop right aboard RCI Navigator of the Seas that same evening for 5-days Caribbean! Different ports of call, crowd, cruise line, duration, etc. So it cost me more, but we added his friend and for three of us we got two rooms next door to each other, after all taxes and pre-paid gratuities for $500 each. So I'll definitely have diversity one way or another, and will enjoy both ships and sailings, even if differently. It's a nice way to put all this feedback to the test.

 

Anyhow, I thought I that this new info was a nice way to cap off this thread. :cool:

[Jesscap5]

Good Luck and hope you have fun on both cruises!! ;)

[wg6530]

Hellooooo again everyone...

Now, since I know cruises are different and demographics depend largely on cruiseline, duration and time of year, this thread gave me an idea. My friend and I are coming off this 10-day on Celebrity Equinox and just decided to book a back-to-back -- we now hop right aboard RCI Navigator of the Seas that same evening for 5-days Caribbean! Different ports of call, crowd, cruise line, duration, etc. So it cost me more, but we added his friend and for three of us we got two rooms next door to each other, after all taxes and pre-paid gratuities for $500 each. So I'll definitely have diversity one way or another, and will enjoy both ships and sailings, even if differently. It's a nice way to put all this feedback to the test.

 

Anyhow, I thought I that this new info was a nice way to cap off this thread. :cool:

Have a great time...

[celle]

Hellooooo again everyone....

 

It's been quite some time since I visited this thread, although I am the original poster.

. . . . . . . (some content deleted)

 

. My friend and I are coming off this 10-day on Celebrity Equinox and just decided to book a back-to-back -- we now hop right aboard RCI Navigator of the Seas that same evening for 5-days Caribbean! Different ports of call, crowd, cruise line, duration, etc. So it cost me more, but we added his friend and for three of us we got two rooms next door to each other, after all taxes and pre-paid gratuities for $500 each. So I'll definitely have diversity one way or another, and will enjoy both ships and sailings, even if differently. It's a nice way to put all this feedback to the test.

 

Anyhow, I thought I that this new info was a nice way to cap off this thread. :cool:

 

Sounds like a plan!

 

I hope you enjoy your cruises.

[loveladyrick]

First, it MOST CERTAINLY is my business if unruly children and rowdy, partying youths are on a cruise with me. I'd be paying damn good money to enjoy myself and not be annoyed by a bunch of screaming, undisciplined BRATS! I'm only 51, but my wife and I fit in much better with mature, responsible, courteous and QUIET adults. It used to be that people raised their children PROPERLY to respect their elders. NOW seniors can't die fast enough to please the younger generations. I have BAD news, you'll be older too sooner than you'd ever think possible. When you are, I hope YOU'RE stuck in a hotel, on a cruise ship or somewhere else next to a bunch of intolerable kids that drive you nuts! Why is it that cruises and vacations CAN BE aimed specifically at: children, families, young adults, singles, gays, lesbians, etc., yet OMG, seniors enjoying a quiet comfortable trip with their peers IS TOTALLY UNHEARD OF? Some of you people leaving comments make me sick!

[aohkay]

First, it MOST CERTAINLY is my business if unruly children and rowdy, partying youths are on a cruise with me. I'd be paying damn good money to enjoy myself and not be annoyed by a bunch of screaming, undisciplined BRATS! I'm only 51, but my wife and I fit in much better with mature, responsible, courteous and QUIET adults. It used to be that people raised their children PROPERLY to respect their elders. NOW seniors can't die fast enough to please the younger generations. I have BAD news, you'll be older too sooner than you'd ever think possible. When you are, I hope YOU'RE stuck in a hotel, on a cruise ship or somewhere else next to a bunch of intolerable kids that drive you nuts! Why is it that cruises and vacations CAN BE aimed specifically at: children, families, young adults, singles, gays, lesbians, etc., yet OMG, seniors enjoying a quiet comfortable trip with their peers IS TOTALLY UNHEARD OF? Some of you people leaving comments make me sick!

 

Hi there and welcome to CC.

 

I just wanted to point out that this thread is over one year old...I didn't bother to read through all of the post to try and figure out if you are responding to a certain post, or if you're posting a general comment.

[smeyer418]

its hit and miss. we asked our travel agent for a cruise that included a good mix of ages and the cruise we took as our son suggested as we were getting on "we are surrounded by death".....many from retirement communities that ban kids(no need for schools or taxes to pay for them)

 

Seniors can be as bad as kids. they hog the buffet, run you over with their wheel chairs etc..

 

there are hundreds of cruises that have mostly older people and few kids. any of the longer cruises, the high end lines, many of the ships leaving from Florida. Unfortunately some older people are just as rude and uncaring as them brats

[Cruisin' Chick]

First, it MOST CERTAINLY is my business if unruly children and rowdy, partying youths are on a cruise with me. I'd be paying damn good money to enjoy myself and not be annoyed by a bunch of screaming, undisciplined BRATS! I'm only 51, but my wife and I fit in much better with mature, responsible, courteous and QUIET adults. It used to be that people raised their children PROPERLY to respect their elders. NOW seniors can't die fast enough to please the younger generations. I have BAD news, you'll be older too sooner than you'd ever think possible. When you are, I hope YOU'RE stuck in a hotel, on a cruise ship or somewhere else next to a bunch of intolerable kids that drive you nuts! Why is it that cruises and vacations CAN BE aimed specifically at: children, families, young adults, singles, gays, lesbians, etc., yet OMG, seniors enjoying a quiet comfortable trip with their peers IS TOTALLY UNHEARD OF? Some of you people leaving comments make me sick!

 

 

Hmmm. My last cruise was during the holiday time of 2010/11, a two-week cruise on Princess. About the duplicate of a cruise that we took exactly five years prior to that. But this time, there was a high percentage of seniors onboard. Maybe because families were trying to save money due to the economy. Anyway, the complaints we heard from some passengers were about the SENIORS. One woman who shared the dinner table with us on a couple of occasions was a retired school principal. Both times she told us that she couldn't believe how rude some of her peers were. She even suffered an injury from one scooter jockey who thought he could be inconsiderate about how he got around. And guess what, I was 56 on that cruise. She said the kids on board seemed very well behaved.

 

And speaking of kids, our little one was 13 on that one and she and her friends told us that they they were doing their own thing in the pool area and one elderly woman would come up and started criticizing my girl about how she wore her hair. My daughter would never go up to a stranger and make fun about what they were wearing, etc.

 

My hubby and I were relaxing one night on the sun deck and heard some arguing. A man, about 70ish, was harassing some teen boys. Can't say for sure who started it, but I'm prone to believe it was that older man.

 

So the next time you go on a cruise and see some children, don't go ballistic. They may be very well-behaved kids (most of those we've seen on cruises have been). And after seeing how much work kids have in school nowadays, I don't begrudge them being able to take a fun trip.

 

And please don't assume that one group is better than others onboard. You can end up being very wrong.

[loveladyrick]

I NEVER said one group was better than another and if your kids are well behaved, you are certainly in the minority nowadays, trust me on that issue. I don't begrudge children of having a good time. In fact, MOST entertainment is aimed at families with children. I also DID NOT say all seniors were perfect. This is why we NEED specific cruises, vacations, etc. for specific types of people. Most of my hotel experiences have been where people turn their kids loose to roam with NO SUPERVISION WHATSOEVER! As long as they're not in their hair, they don't care what they do. They've been in the pools and hot tubs during ADULT ONLY HOURS screaming and splashing people in the face, roaming through casinos where they shouldn't be in the first place, etc. ALL without adult supervision. I live near Laughlin, Nevada, which USED TO BE aimed primarily at adults. Now, since they've done everything in their power to deter the mature residents and winter visitors, the town is literally dying with many Hotels/Casinos looking like ghost towns. Kids should be at the NUMEROUS destinations aimed at them like: Disney, Sea World, Bush Gardens, Six Flags, etc. Wouldn't it be great if us irritating seniors had a tiny fraction of destinations aimed primarily at us?

[celle]

First, it MOST CERTAINLY is my business if unruly children and rowdy, partying youths are on a cruise with me. I'd be paying damn good money to enjoy myself and not be annoyed by a bunch of screaming, undisciplined BRATS! I'm only 51, but my wife and I fit in much better with mature, responsible, courteous and QUIET adults. It used to be that people raised their children PROPERLY to respect their elders. NOW seniors can't die fast enough to please the younger generations. I have BAD news, you'll be older too sooner than you'd ever think possible. When you are, I hope YOU'RE stuck in a hotel, on a cruise ship or somewhere else next to a bunch of intolerable kids that drive you nuts! Why is it that cruises and vacations CAN BE aimed specifically at: children, families, young adults, singles, gays, lesbians, etc., yet OMG, seniors enjoying a quiet comfortable trip with their peers IS TOTALLY UNHEARD OF? Some of you people leaving comments make me sick!

 

I NEVER said one group was better than another and if your kids are well behaved, you are certainly in the minority nowadays, trust me on that issue. I don't begrudge children of having a good time. In fact, MOST entertainment is aimed at families with children. I also DID NOT say all seniors were perfect. This is why we NEED specific cruises, vacations, etc. for specific types of people. Most of my hotel experiences have been where people turn their kids loose to roam with NO SUPERVISION WHATSOEVER! As long as they're not in their hair, they don't care what they do. They've been in the pools and hot tubs during ADULT ONLY HOURS screaming and splashing people in the face, roaming through casinos where they shouldn't be in the first place, etc. ALL without adult supervision. I live near Laughlin, Nevada, which USED TO BE aimed primarily at adults. Now, since they've done everything in their power to deter the mature residents and winter visitors, the town is literally dying with many Hotels/Casinos looking like ghost towns. Kids should be at the NUMEROUS destinations aimed at them like: Disney, Sea World, Bush Gardens, Six Flags, etc. Wouldn't it be great if us irritating seniors had a tiny fraction of destinations aimed primarily at us?

 

Does this sound familiar?

"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Or this?

"What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"





The first quote is attributed to the Greek philosopher Socrates, who lived from 469 BC to 399 BC.

The second quote is attributed to Plato, who lived from 424 or 423 BC to 348 or 349 BC.





It seems that complaining about the youth of today is nothing new! :D

[A2Mich]

Keep in mind too, that some cruise lines don't focus on families in their marketing. As I said on another thread, there are certain cruise lines that are aiming squarely at families as their main focus. Look at the brochures and TV ads for Carnival, RCI, and Disney. EVERY ONE OF THEM shows endless fun for children and families, as well as lots of activities that may be geared more towards younger people. Now look at HAL or Celebrity brochures - very few, if any references towards children and family-oriented activities. My suggestion is that for those who do not want to be around children, would be to not book a cruise on a family-targeted cruise line during school breaks. For those not wanting to cruise with a lot of seniors, I wouldn't recommend booking an 18 day Holland America cruise during December. Knowing which lines target and appeal to various demographic groups, as well as knowing when to expect more or less families, is a huge factor in reducing your chance of disappointment. For myself, I am in my early 40's and have 2 young children (5 and 7) - OK, so we started a bit later than expected! I have no problem cruising with any age group - I have seen some very well behaved children, as well as some very unruly ones. I have also met some very nice and cordial seniors, and some that I would have loved to toss overboard just to not hear them complaining anymore. I have met some very nice people in my own age group, and met many others and can't believe we're from the same generation.

 

There is no perfect age group out there, but for those who are wanting to avoid certain age groups, a bit of homework can go a long way to try and keep you with the preferred age group and/or avoid families with kids. I can't come out and say "avoid seniors", as they are generally able to cruise year-round and in many cases, time is not so much an issue. It is much easier to avoid the families with children while cruising, as school breaks will generally tend to dictate their vacation times. As for younger couples without children, they can cruise any time of the year, but may not be on cruises much longer than 7 days because of work vacations, etc.

 

Anyways, enjoy your cruises!

[cruzeluver]

Cruise lines are in business to make money, and they aren't going to disclose any information that may keep someone from booking with them.

[aohkay]

I NEVER said one group was better than another and if your kids are well behaved, you are certainly in the minority nowadays, trust me on that issue. I don't begrudge children of having a good time. In fact, MOST entertainment is aimed at families with children. I also DID NOT say all seniors were perfect. This is why we NEED specific cruises, vacations, etc. for specific types of people. Most of my hotel experiences have been where people turn their kids loose to roam with NO SUPERVISION WHATSOEVER! As long as they're not in their hair, they don't care what they do. They've been in the pools and hot tubs during ADULT ONLY HOURS screaming and splashing people in the face, roaming through casinos where they shouldn't be in the first place, etc. ALL without adult supervision. I live near Laughlin, Nevada, which USED TO BE aimed primarily at adults. Now, since they've done everything in their power to deter the mature residents and winter visitors, the town is literally dying with many Hotels/Casinos looking like ghost towns. Kids should be at the NUMEROUS destinations aimed at them like: Disney, Sea World, Bush Gardens, Six Flags, etc. Wouldn't it be great if us irritating seniors had a tiny fraction of destinations aimed primarily at us?

 

Are you RANTING about kids in general, or are you RANTING about kids in hotels? Didn't really read anything about cruiselines in your 2 posts, so just WONDERING.

[A2Mich]

Wouldn't it be great if us irritating seniors had a tiny fraction of destinations aimed primarily at us?

 

There is - Southern California, most of Florida, and the whole state of Arizona. Sorry, was just throwing out the smart-aleck answer!;)

[Cruisin' Chick]

I NEVER said one group was better than another and if your kids are well behaved, you are certainly in the minority nowadays, trust me on that issue. I don't begrudge children of having a good time. In fact, MOST entertainment is aimed at families with children. I also DID NOT say all seniors were perfect. This is why we NEED specific cruises, vacations, etc. for specific types of people. Most of my hotel experiences have been where people turn their kids loose to roam with NO SUPERVISION WHATSOEVER! As long as they're not in their hair, they don't care what they do. They've been in the pools and hot tubs during ADULT ONLY HOURS screaming and splashing people in the face, roaming through casinos where they shouldn't be in the first place, etc. ALL without adult supervision. I live near Laughlin, Nevada, which USED TO BE aimed primarily at adults. Now, since they've done everything in their power to deter the mature residents and winter visitors, the town is literally dying with many Hotels/Casinos looking like ghost towns. Kids should be at the NUMEROUS destinations aimed at them like: Disney, Sea World, Bush Gardens, Six Flags, etc. Wouldn't it be great if us irritating seniors had a tiny fraction of destinations aimed primarily at us?

 

I guess you're just running into the wrong groups of kids. There are many who are already making a difference. But if you're so sure the majority of kids are troublemaking brats, then just stick with adults-only places. There are some out there like all-inclusives and high end cruiselines.

 

Before child, I wasn't into kids and I still didn't turn up my nose when I've seen them in hotels and on cruiseships. I didn't assume that my vacation would be ruined if a tot was in a restaurant with me. And guess what, there are some child-less couples who love to go to amusement parks.

[loveladyrick]

There is - Southern California, most of Florida, and the whole state of Arizona. Sorry, was just throwing out the smart-aleck answer!;)

 

Are you serious? I live in AZ., 30 miles from the CA. border and have traveled extensively across the country, including FL. Other than communities WHERE YOU LIVE AND BUY A HOME (NOT VACATION), I certainly challenge you to show me ONE VACATION DESTINATION strictly for adults. It'd be simple, THEY DO NOT EXIST!

[euro cruiser]

I certainly challenge you to show me ONE VACATION DESTINATION strictly for adults.

Here you go: http://www.temptationresorts.com/

 

All inclusive

Adults only

Cancun

 

And here's another: http://www.eldoradosparesorts.com/

[aohkay]

I certainly challenge you to show me ONE VACATION DESTINATION strictly for adults. It'd be simple, THEY DO NOT EXIST!

 

Sandals Resorts (Adult Only)

http://www.sandals.com/difference/couples.cfm

 

Los Cabos (Adult Only)

http://www.cabos.com/Adults-Only-Vacation/Hotels/

 

Mexico (Top 10 Adult Only)

http://gomexico.about.com/od/beachesandresorts/a/top-ten-adult-only-resorts.htm

[A2Mich]

Are you serious? I live in AZ., 30 miles from the CA. border and have traveled extensively across the country, including FL. Other than communities WHERE YOU LIVE AND BUY A HOME (NOT VACATION), I certainly challenge you to show me ONE VACATION DESTINATION strictly for adults. It'd be simple, THEY DO NOT EXIST!

 

OMG - LIGHTEN UP! Did you not see the ;) at the end of my remark, after I stated "here's the smart-aleck comment." I lived in Central Florida for nearly 20 years, and let me tell you, there are communities that are senior-only, and several cities that are mainly retirement areas, however, they are not purely vacation resorts. Cruise lines such as Carnival, RCI, Disney, and NCL are marketed with families in mind, as they need to maintain a broad revenue base. Resorts are similar in some ways - they need to be profitable. A cruise line that focused on seniors-only would have a smaller customer base to draw from, and may not be able to afford the huge floating mega-resorts, as they likely could not consistently fill them to a profitable capacity. There are smaller, albeit, more expensive cruise lines that offer a more senior-friendly environment.

 

That being said, due to the market audience that main-stream cruise lines are trying to appeal to, careful homework is prudent in trying to enjoy the vacation experience you are after. I don't know what cruise line you are considering, but if you want to sail one of the main-stream companies, you may be better off booking a European, Alaska, Bermuda, or extended Caribbean cruise. Chances are, there will be children onboard at almost any time of year on a typical 3/4/7 day Caribbean cruise out of any of the Southern US ports, and WAY MORE children over spring break or summer break. There is no way you will be able to guarantee a child-free cruise on a mainstream cruise line. There may be one or two cruise lines that do not allow children onboard at all, though I don't know which ones they are. Also, a Windstar or Windjammer type cruise will likely have less, or no children onboard. Same may be true of river cruises as well.

[loubetti]

OMG - LIGHTEN UP! Did you not see the ;) at the end of my remark, after I stated "here's the smart-aleck comment." I lived in Central Florida for nearly 20 years, and let me tell you, there are communities that are senior-only, and several cities that are mainly retirement areas, however, they are not purely vacation resorts. Cruise lines such as Carnival, RCI, Disney, and NCL are marketed with families in mind, as they need to maintain a broad revenue base. Resorts are similar in some ways - they need to be profitable. A cruise line that focused on seniors-only would have a smaller customer base to draw from, and may not be able to afford the huge floating mega-resorts, as they likely could not consistently fill them to a profitable capacity. There are smaller, albeit, more expensive cruise lines that offer a more senior-friendly environment.

 

That being said, due to the market audience that main-stream cruise lines are trying to appeal to, careful homework is prudent in trying to enjoy the vacation experience you are after. I don't know what cruise line you are considering, but if you want to sail one of the main-stream companies, you may be better off booking a European, Alaska, Bermuda, or extended Caribbean cruise. Chances are, there will be children onboard at almost any time of year on a typical 3/4/7 day Caribbean cruise out of any of the Southern US ports, and WAY MORE children over spring break or summer break. There is no way you will be able to guarantee a child-free cruise on a mainstream cruise line. There may be one or two cruise lines that do not allow children onboard at all, though I don't know which ones they are. Also, a Windstar or Windjammer type cruise will likely have less, or no children onboard. Same may be true of river cruises as well.

 

Agreed. One needs to do their homework. A cruise line is not going to reveal demographics for a particular sailing for at least two good reasons:

 

1. It may cause you to book a different cruise line if you don't like what you see.

 

2. It reveals demographic information to their competition.

[brucelegs]

The only reason why demographics are not disclosed prior to a cruise departure is that cruise lines look only at the bottom line, and they will do nothing to discourage even one passenger from booking a cruise if they found out that a segment of the cruise line's demographic does not appeal to them. If they told a group of 20 somethings that a majority of a particular cruise would be aged 65 and older, that might cause that young group to look elsewhere for their vacation. If they tell a group from a senior citizen community that there will be 750 kids aged 16 and younger on a cruise, that oldster group will probably not book that ship. It's the same reason why a cruise line will not disclose if there are large groups on board---they do not want to discourage anyone from booking their line. Like I said, it's all about the bottom line, and no other reason.

 

Right there is your answer - cruising is a business.

[fleckle]

Are you serious? I live in AZ., 30 miles from the CA. border and have traveled extensively across the country, including FL. Other than communities WHERE YOU LIVE AND BUY A HOME (NOT VACATION), I certainly challenge you to show me ONE VACATION DESTINATION strictly for adults. It'd be simple, THEY DO NOT EXIST!

 

Here you go: http://www.temptationresorts.com/

 

All inclusive

Adults only

Cancun

 

And here's another: http://www.eldoradosparesorts.com/

 

Sandals Resorts (Adult Only)

http://www.sandals.com/difference/couples.cfm

 

Los Cabos (Adult Only)

http://www.cabos.com/Adults-Only-Vacation/Hotels/

 

Mexico (Top 10 Adult Only)

http://gomexico.about.com/od/beachesandresorts/a/top-ten-adult-only-resorts.htm

 

....... and in addition to all the regular vacation destinations strictly for adults, some are even further limited to senior adults only. For example

 

Hawaii Vacations for Seniors

 

Sierra Pointe Senior Vacation Package

 

Those are a lot of strictly adult vacation destinations that DO NOT EXIST. :D

[dave_k63]

Anyone, including you, can choose to call anything "private" if they want to, but there are rules, guidelines and precedents. You can say you should not be on security cameras because you don't want people to know when you are at a certain place. Or you should not have to partake in a census because it's no one's business who lives in your home. That is actually more personal information yet are completely accepted and routine. General statistical information is not "your" information. In order for something to be about "you" then "you" need to be named. If I just said "there was a 50 year old onboard" then whose information did I give out?? Your example holds no water, I'm sorry. If you wish to discuss someone giving out your information, please explain where that applies or start a thread about that topic, maybe entitled: "I Resent Cruise Lines Asking My Age When I Book Under My Name And Address". But if you are saying that a ship disclosing that there were 20% senior citizen, 30% children and the other 50% were neither minors or seniors that then your information is somehow being "violated" and is "dangerous", that is something so ridiculous I don't even need to explain to anyone reading this. You're either pulling my leg or else it is paranoia on a whole level I never knew existed. Since I started this topic and know the intent and have explained the premise, I respectively ask that you please comment on what I am talking about, not some deluded notion that has nothing to do with this but that you insist on pursuing in a blustery tone and exclamation points with lines like "You have no right!" and "It's none of your business!".

 

 

 

LOL, not at all. In fact you at first demonstrated my whole point by explaining how people would want to know the demographics and yet another way they might be helpful (playmates for the children so they won't get bored -- another good example, thanks), then go on to say if there's a chance children might be somewhere that is a "danger because of pedophiles", LOL. PLEASE tell me you are joking on this one, we could all use a good laugh. But before you do, be sure to close down all schools because pedophiles know there "might" be kids there and for that matter don't allow kids in shopping malls or anywhere public because a pedophile might get them. Sheesh, this preposterous logic of yours truly deserves no response, but when I hear something like this I have to answer to find out if the person is really just pulling my leg or actually believes what they are writing.

 

Now, since everyone else understands, let's let this off-topic subject go, okay? If you are particularly self-conscious about your age for some reason or there is some personal issue you are internalizing here, well this is not the place for that. I'd like to steer this thread back in the right direction. If anyone else wishes to comment on the topic (as they had been doing) I'd be more than happy to hear! :)

What if the cruise line said there were about 800 gays on the ship you were planning with your grandchildren? Not to be homophobic - but I would really rethink that booking. I am really not a bigoted person, and hate ( sorta ) to be politically incorrect.