Cruise Cat Posted January 17, 2012 #226 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Yes I know, but I was trying to say that I don't believe the Concordia will ever sail again under any name! Having seen the underwater pictures and the possibility that there is another gash on the other side of the ship, I think she will be a total loss. I agreee. Electrical systems and other metal not fully protected submersed in salt water...total loss. We are not talking a 22 foot lyman here, we are talking about a city at sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tntornadox Posted January 17, 2012 #227 Share Posted January 17, 2012 If she can be salvaged, Carnival Corp. will salvage her, she's only 6 years old. EDIT: Thanks for the update, Runs, did he mention if there is anyway to secure the ship so she doesn't slip any further off that shelf and completely submerge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 17, 2012 #228 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Also, notice how much deeper she is in the water now than in the video: I wonder if it is the difference in tides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 17, 2012 #229 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Tell him "good luck" and "stay safe" next time you talk to him. Hi all. I just wanted to provide an update to the salvage operation onboard the Concordia, I first posted a couple days ago. My brother-in-law is the senior salvage master for Titan Salvage and flew to italy and boarded the Concordia early Saturday morning. So my wife talked to him a couple hours ago after he got back to the hotel to work on computer models for the ship. Just a side note, my wife and brother are extremely close and his profession is very dangerous so she gets worried. And everything that he said about how they're doing this may not be how they will be doing things, so take it with a grain of salt. Anyway, he is working with a Dutch company (I forget the name) in the salvage operation. They hope to be getting the fuel and other hazardous materials out within the next few days. They do not know if they will be able to save the ship (GRAIN OF SALT PLEASE!) due to how shallow the water is but they do not want to have to break up the ship. 1) Because it will destroy the environment and 2) they won't get paid (they only get paid if they save the ship). But what they want to do is put a temporary patch on the hole, pump out the water, partially re-float her and tow her out ("Without hitting any more of those g** D**n rocks," he said) to where ever carnival wants her. Now again, this may not be what happens. It is still WAY too early to tell what exactly they will do. They have to run countless computer models, go over hundreds of different scenarios, get equipment, etc. But they will be getting the fuel out and all the other HAZMAT out in the next few days. I will probably provide another update in a couple days. If you have any questions, post them and I'll try and answer them in the next couple hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LoveMyBoxer Posted January 17, 2012 #230 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I wonder if it is the difference in tides? That's what I thought too, but I was watching all the videos today and she seemed to be even deeper! Could be the weight of the water which kept flowing in and also today when she moved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof4boys Posted January 17, 2012 #231 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Cruise Cat--Thanks for your updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TVMet Posted January 17, 2012 #232 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Tell him "good luck" and "stay safe" next time you talk to him. Runs, thanks for the update. Very interesting. Please keep us updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 17, 2012 #233 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Cruise Cat--Thanks for your updates. Not me - RunsWithFlyingDolphins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
momof4boys Posted January 17, 2012 #234 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Not me - RunsWithFlyingDolphins Ooops! To much clicking backa and forth!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 17, 2012 #235 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I just wanted to thank you for the update. Tell your brother to stay safe please. I do have a question though - someone asked about the risk of the ship sliding off of the shelf - I, too, would be interested in knowing if they can prevent that from happening or does the placement of the ship currently hinder the righting of it? I see on one of the pictures on their website they have big cables anchoring a ship, but it doesn't show what they are anchoring it too. Maybe they can drive something into those really big rocks next to the ship and secure some cables to that (speculating) http://www.titansalvage.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LoveMyBoxer Posted January 17, 2012 #236 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Anyone else think this is disgusting and they will probably be the first suing?? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Costa-Concordia-room-key-day-sinking-/250974279328?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6f3b96a0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG_Steve Posted January 17, 2012 #237 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Anyone else think this is disgusting and they will probably be the first suing??http://www.ebay.com/itm/Costa-Concordia-room-key-day-sinking-/250974279328?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6f3b96a0 I can't say it's disgusting or horrifies me. It's not like he dove to a wreck, disturbed folks final resting place, then sold those folks stuff for an ungodly amount of money. Hey, you asked...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LoveMyBoxer Posted January 17, 2012 #238 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I can't say it's disgusting or horrifies me. It's not like he dove to a wreck, disturbed folks final resting place, then sold those folks stuff for an ungodly amount of money. Hey, you asked...... No but he/she will probably be the first with a lawyer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunsWithFlyingDolphins Posted January 17, 2012 #239 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Underwater photos of the ship. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/costa-concordia-cruise-ship-underwater-photos_n_1209286.html#s616636&title=Divers_Race_To If either of these have been posted already, I'm sorry Also, Huffington Post's Costa Concordia page... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/costa-concordia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG_Steve Posted January 17, 2012 #240 Share Posted January 17, 2012 No but he/she will probably be the first with a lawyer! You know him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmarie1623 Posted January 17, 2012 #241 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Anyone else think this is disgusting and they will probably be the first suing??http://www.ebay.com/itm/Costa-Concordia-room-key-day-sinking-/250974279328?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6f3b96a0 I reported the listing to EBay, hopefully they will remove it. People never cease to amaze me, it's disgusting to try and profit off of others tragedies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrounds Posted January 17, 2012 #242 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Anyone else think this is disgusting and they will probably be the first suing??http://www.ebay.com/itm/Costa-Concordia-room-key-day-sinking-/250974279328?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6f3b96a0 Its at best TACKY, especially since people lost their lives in this incident. If and when they refloat and refurbish the Concordia, he can make sure to book the Grand Suite on the first voyage and then he can sell that on e-bay also. That would also be TACKY. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bikkek Posted January 17, 2012 #243 Share Posted January 17, 2012 I reported the listing to EBay, hopefully they will remove it. People never cease to amaze me, it's disgusting to try and profit off of others tragedies. Looks to me like they are trying to profit off of their own tragedy. Some might say "making lemonade out of lemons". I too think that it's a little morbid, but who am I to judge the actions of one of the survivors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topo Gigio Posted January 17, 2012 Author #244 Share Posted January 17, 2012 The dutch company is called Smit (International) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanWeGoYet? Posted January 17, 2012 #245 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Underwater photos of the ship.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/costa-concordia-cruise-ship-underwater-photos_n_1209286.html#s616636&title=Divers_Race_To Wow. What do I know, but when I saw these pictures I thought it will be a miracle if they can salvage the ship. Especially if they have a 30 million deductible & insurance covers the rest. Also' date=' Huffington Post's Costa Concordia page... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/costa-concordia[/quote'] The company that bought the ad can't be too happy right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted January 17, 2012 #246 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Underwater photos of the ship.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/costa-concordia-cruise-ship-underwater-photos_n_1209286.html#s616636&title=Divers_Race_To If either of these have been posted already, I'm sorry Also, Huffington Post's Costa Concordia page... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/costa-concordia Looks like they are cutting additional holes in the hull to speed the search and rescue... http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_ITALY_CRUISE_AGROUND?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-01-17-05-24-38 "ROME (AP) -- Italian naval divers on Tuesday exploded holes in the hull of a cruise ship grounded off a Tuscan island to speed the search for 29 missing people while seas were still calm. One official said there was still a "glimmer of hope" that survivors could be found." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19snapshot Posted January 17, 2012 #247 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Unbelievable footage from a coast guard helicopter. I can't even image what it was like clinging to the hull in the dark while waiting to be rescued. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ6slFRm5Ps&NR=1&feature=endscreen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesawch Posted January 17, 2012 #248 Share Posted January 17, 2012 What were they selling on ebay.Its been removed and justr curious what it was.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leekel619 Posted January 17, 2012 #249 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Room key cards. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted January 17, 2012 #250 Share Posted January 17, 2012 What were they selling on ebay.Its been removed and justr curious what it was.? +1 to eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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