Costa Concordia SINKING!

[Ozcruiser1]

I cannot understand why posters here want to act as judge, jury and executioner based on the sensational and sometimes inaccurate, reporting from the media.

 

We can all speculate on guilt but it'd be wrong.

 

 

Agree 100%. Lots and lots is pure speculation ...it may make for interesting points of view( and interesting reading) but its speculation. My good "table companion" Milaandra has ALWAYS tried to suppress the speculative hanging judge and jury by trying to encourage fellow posters to base their views on credible sources of information. For some Domnica Cemorton is seen as evil, for others, she is seen helpful, as they see Roberto Bosio( the 2nd captain).

If we rely on media reports, to either form, reinforce or challenge our existing opinion we must hope that the media is accurate. I can only speculate that much of what we read in the media regarding this incident is speculative and thus what are we to think?

[Milaandra]

A fair sentence, upon conviction, might be one week in jail for each person on board. It wouldn't matter if they were injured, killed, or were evacuated without a scratch.

 

81 years?

[sidari]

rubrrick

 

"Captains don't deviate from a corporate course......to joy ride, do "fly by's, or "show boating" as what I take happened by a totally insane captain"

 

So what do you call this then ? pictures below. In the first picture to teh bottom right of the Bow is a small boat with 2 people onboard!

 

 

[Hebersgyll]

rubrrick

 

"Captains don't deviate from a corporate course......to joy ride, do "fly by's, or "show boating" as what I take happened by a totally insane captain"

 

So what do you call this then ? pictures below. In the first picture to teh bottom right of the Bow is a small boat with 2 people onboard!

 

 

 

 

Yikes!! Where's my lifebelt? Thank goodness I packed some water wings into my luggage for this trip. Any chance the guy steering on the bridge is related to that Schettino crooner?! :D

[Hebersgyll]

Agree 100%. Lots and lots is pure speculation ...it may make for interesting points of view( and interesting reading) but its speculation. My good "table companion" Milaandra has ALWAYS tried to suppress the speculative hanging judge and jury by trying to encourage fellow posters to base their views on credible sources of information. For some Domnica Cemorton is seen as evil, for others, she is seen helpful, as they see Roberto Bosio( the 2nd captain).

If we rely on media reports, to either form, reinforce or challenge our existing opinion we must hope that the media is accurate. I can only speculate that much of what we read in the media regarding this incident is speculative and thus what are we to think?

 

Yep, agreed. Its all just informed, or uninformed, speculation, or gosip, or conjecture. That's all. We are not pretending to deal with facts, or evidence or to build a case of any kind. The care we need to take is to avoid any illegal use of the web or writing stuff that could be properly regarded as being offensive?

 

Why do we do it ? You tell me, I can only answer for myself? I'm retired, I like to keep my mind active to keep dementia at bay, I enjoy the 'virtual' companionship and interactions with so many different people in very, many countries, I come from a seafaring environment and close relatives were sailors (me ony an occasional cruiser!) It keeps me away from whisky and wild, wild women, ........ occasionally!

 

But, as you may have been able to tell by now, I don't take any of this stuff too seriously & I will be quite content for the 'real' proceedings to run their course! :)

[rubrrick]

rubrrick

 

"Captains don't deviate from a corporate course......to joy ride, do "fly by's, or "show boating" as what I take happened by a totally insane captain"

 

So what do you call this then ? pictures below. In the first picture to teh bottom right of the Bow is a small boat with 2 people onboard!

 

 

 

There are small ships that can do exactly what this one was doing. However I don't know the circumstances. I will say that looking at the lack of any white water around the bow, the ship was making this passage at a snails pace, not 15 knots.

 

Do you know the circumstances?

 

Rick

[Keel Haul]

Yep, agreed. Its all just informed, or uninformed, speculation, or gosip, or conjecture. That's all. We are not pretending to deal with facts, or evidence or to build a case of any kind. The care we need to take is to avoid any illegal use of the web or writing stuff that could be properly regarded as being offensive?

 

Why do we do it ? You tell me, I can only answer for myself? I'm retired, I like to keep my mind active to keep dementia at bay, I enjoy the 'virtual' companionship and interactions with so many different people in very, many countries, I come from a seafaring environment and close relatives were sailors (me ony an occasional cruiser!) It keeps me away from whisky and wild, wild women, ........ occasionally!

 

But, as you may have been able to tell by now, I don't take any of this stuff too seriously & I will be quite content for the 'real' proceedings to run their course! :)

I was an occasional lurker looking for specifics before the disaster, I can hardly find time to view porn now.:p

[Milaandra]

 

Why do we do it ? You tell me,

 

For my part, I find the exchange of ideas, speculations and sources of information really interesting. I'm not all that interested in the civil lawsuits, but all other links I check out right away and I, too, enjoy the intellectual exercise involved with trying to make sense of the jigsaw puzzle. (actually, it's more like putting together a jigsaw puzzle when there are several mixed together in one box)

 

And I live to provide information. :p

 

I like to challenge the status quo, obviously. If we don't question, then it doesn't make for stimulating conversation anyway! I also feel that it is when defending our position that we become clearer about the thought processes that lead us to that point.

 

I hope I never make anyone feel that they can't express themselves.

[SomeBeach]

Courts say stay home...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-italy-ship-captain-idUSTRE8161BQ20120207

[numbersix]

rubrrick

 

"Captains don't deviate from a corporate course......to joy ride, do "fly by's, or "show boating" as what I take happened by a totally insane captain"

 

So what do you call this then ? pictures below. In the first picture to teh bottom right of the Bow is a small boat with 2 people onboard!

 

 

 

 

Gee--isn't it amazing what people can do with Photoshop!

 

 

 

 

:eek:

[shipfriend_max]

Unless the blonde was standing right in front of him at the helm

with her baps out shaking them deliberately to distract him

I see no reason to jail her.

 

She was invited as a guest on to the bridge.

I'm sure she's not the first cutie to ever grace Schettino's bridge (or any other Captain's)

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I think there are more important problems than the blond, stupid girl.

I think we have more to care about the pumping out of the fuel and the recovery after that...

[chrispb]

and right wingers are stupid according to the Daily Mail. This must be one of the few accurate article they have included in the Snail http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/05/daily-mail-calls-rightwingers-stupid?newsfeed=true

 

Ha-ha, nobody is more right wing than Peter Hitchens who writes a column in the Mail On Sunday (I know some people who think he'd make a great Prime Minister).:cool:

 

I think the Daily Mail has imported some of the staff from Nudes of the World - it has certainly gone downhill in recent months.

[CruisingMouse]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9066329/Costa-Concordia-Mystery-over-Captain-Francesco-Schettinos-lover-Domnica-Cemortan-deepens.html

[SomeBeach]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9066329/Costa-Concordia-Mystery-over-Captain-Francesco-Schettinos-lover-Domnica-Cemortan-deepens.html

 

 

Couple of things to note from your link.

The aunt of the dancer denies her neice was the Captain's "lover." Yet she does not deny that the luggage and personal items found in his stateroom belonged to her neice. Again it goes to *perspective* which in turn leads to speculation.

Another thing I noticed is that unlike the Reuter's link I saw this morning, they claim the court has not ruled as yet whether the Captain stays home or goes back to jail.

Just before posting this, I went back to the report and Reuter's still has the story as it was linked earlier. I can't find a second source to back up the claim.

[Davyjonesrugrat]

Why, I could suggest that the Captain was innocent, a victim of circumstance. Whilst the Captain was at dinner someone else changed course (maybe on the orders of Costa). When the Captain called Costa to protest about their alteration to course, they sacked him and some senior officers over the phone (why, I don't know). As he was no longer in charge of the ship, he evacuated (he took the laptop because emails on it would prove Costa at fault). This could be right, as I'd assembled it from a number of 'reliable' media reports!

Yes await the court proceedings however there is only one thing wrong with your posting - The Captain has already admitted doing it !

 

rgds

:)

[Davyjonesrugrat]

I was an occasional lurker looking for specifics before the disaster, I can hardly find time to view porn now.:p

Well we can all take a slap on the back for saving this poor cc member from porn sites !!!......LOL

 

Rgds

:)

[Davyjonesrugrat]

Unless the blonde was standing right in front of him at the helm

with her baps out shaking them deliberately to distract him

I see no reason to jail her.

 

She was invited as a guest on to the bridge.

I'm sure she's not the first cutie to ever grace Schettino's bridge (or any other Captain's)

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OMG.......Tell me she didnt !! Not not her boobs !!! Remember you read it here !!! aplmac told us so lol......I never read that in any tabloid, what sort of paper/mag do you read lol.

 

Hang her high lol.....(No they might sag )

 

 

rgds

:)

[Ozcruiser1]

For my part, I find the exchange of ideas, speculations and sources of information really interesting. I'm not all that interested in the civil lawsuits, but all other links I check out right away and I, too, enjoy the intellectual exercise involved with trying to make sense of the jigsaw puzzle. (actually, it's more like putting together a jigsaw puzzle when there are several mixed together in one box)

 

And I live to provide information. :p

 

I like to challenge the status quo, obviously. If we don't question, then it doesn't make for stimulating conversation anyway! I also feel that it is when defending our position that we become clearer about the thought processes that lead us to that point.

 

I hope I never make anyone feel that they can't express themselves.

 

I always look for your posts Milaandra.

[Milaandra]

I always look for your posts Milaandra.

 

Oh, you sweet talker, you! :)

[Davyjonesrugrat]

Oh, you sweet talker, you! :)

Yes isnt it !!! lol....you could nearly say its 'stalking' lol

 

rgds

:):):D

[Aplmac]

OMG.......Tell me she didnt !! Not not her boobs !!! Remember you read it here !!! aplmac told us so lol...

...I never read that in any tabloid, ===> Neither did I! :eek:

what sort of paper/mag do you read lol. ===> Same ones you do??

 

Hang her high lol.....(No they might sag )

:)

Let me repeat what I said...

 

 

Unless the blonde was standing right in front of him at the helm

with her baps out shaking them deliberately to distract him

I see no reason to jail her.

 

 

What a difference a word can make, in the English language.. :D

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[Davyjonesrugrat]

Unless the blonde was standing right in front of him at the helm

with her baps out shaking them deliberately to distract him:D.

Well if she wasnt doing that then what was she doing.....on second thoughts I dont want to know I have another 10 hrs to go for my night shift !!!

 

Maybe it was the Maitre de that was distracting the Captain !!

 

rgds

:):)

[cruiserfanfromct]

FWIW - from today's Repubblica - don't think it was photoshopped but who knows!

 

http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2012/02/07/foto/schettino-domnica_su_chi_le_foto_della_coppia_a_cena-29480369/1/

[wishful thinking]

Maybe a bit off topic but some of you may wish to look at the HAL board, in particular the thread entitled 'prayers for IRL Joanie'. Just thought some of you would wish to read it.

 

Sorry to interrupt.

[numbersix]

FWIW - from today's Repubblica - don't think it was photoshopped but who knows!

 

http://www.repubblica.it/cronaca/2012/02/07/foto/schettino-domnica_su_chi_le_foto_della_coppia_a_cena-29480369/1/

 

 

Hmm--don't know about that one (being phoroshopped), but in any case, it's not as bad as those ships navigating through the rocks earlier!