Muster Drill was a huge JOKE!

[Sargent_Schultz]

um, you have completely avoided me challenging your statement that most had already muster drilled. and now you throw in lifejackets? where did that come from?

 

You misquote me and then avoid my direct question as to whether or not you had ever been on a Carnival cruise.

 

It is also clear to me you don't know the facts about Concordia.

 

Try googling concordia dead life jackets

[Sargent_Schultz]

I'll be the one swimming to shore with a bag of money from the casino cage and a case of Crown.

 

I guess that leaves me the dancing girl.

[jonbgd]

I'll be the one swimming to shore with a bag of money from the casino cage and a case of Crown.

Pretty tough to swim with your hands full and weighted down.. Hope you had time to grab a PFD or you will be sinking like the Titantic:eek:

[H82seaUgo]

You misquote me and then avoid my direct question as to whether or not you had ever been on a Carnival cruise.

 

It is also clear to me you don't know the facts about Concordia.

 

Try googling concordia dead life jackets

 

 

double platinum, if you must know. (+1)

[H82seaUgo]

I guess you won't be one of the survivors.

 

Carnival lists your muster station on your sail and sign card and the crew members are experts at directing people to the muster stations.

 

Unless I am already in my cabin, I have no intention of returning to get a life jacket and getting mobbed by hysterical alarmists. There are plenty of life jackets stashed around the ship.

 

They even tell you NOT to return to your cabin for such things as medications - one of the crew will get, if there is time.

 

really? the concordia passengers were all told to return to their cabins.

[ryanpatricksmom]

Does anyone know if they've changed the policy on all lines so that you actually do have to report to the muster station for the drill? When I sailed Princess we reported to one of the restaurants, and suite passengers on NCL went to the theatre. That, to me, was really irresponsible. They can't make people pay attention, but they can ensure that at least once that passengers know where they are supposed to go.

[halos]

double platinum, if you must know. (+1)

and how has the muster drill changed (the basic context) since your first cruise?????

Can you honestly tell me you are as rapt with attention now as you were the first time??

 

I totally zone out during the airplane saftey talk....At this point, during the muster, I zone out too.

 

Lifejacket/get to station/await instruction.

(pray that everyone keeps a cool head.....that's first on my priority list)

Edited April 3, 2012 by halos

[halos]

really? the concordia passengers were all told to return to their cabins.

via the crew/via the butthead 'captain'.

We all know that instruction was a bad one....

[H82seaUgo]

and how has the muster drill changed (the basic context) since your first cruise?????

Can you honestly tell me you are as rapt with attention now as you were the first time??

 

I totally zone out during the airplane saftey talk....At this point, during the muster, I zone out too.

 

Lifejacket/get to station/await instruction.

(pray that everyone keeps a cool head.....that's first on my priority list)

 

smaller ships, we mustered in a lounge, and then were walked out to the lifeboat. and the lifeboats were way up top on the verandah deck.

 

and i treated my last muster with as much fire as my first.

Edited April 3, 2012 by H82seaUgo

[tracyanns]

I think it has to do with survival instincts. If you are up on deck 12 forward doing something and those bells ring, in a true emergency who is going to say...I have to walk all the way to the aft and down 6 flights of stairs...instinct is going to take you down 6 flights of stairs to the CLOSEST lifeboat...and I think that is what happened on Concordia...if the ship is sinking, they are not going to tell you that you have to go to the front and other side of the ship to your lifeboat...

 

I don't really think anything will run smoothly in the event of an emergency, muster drill or not...

[gfy012]

I have about 20 cruises under my belt and only one time did we walk over to our lifeboat.

[Sargent_Schultz]

really? the concordia passengers were all told to return to their cabins.

 

This is neither the Costa nor the Concordia. Did you miss the part about the incompetent captain?

[H82seaUgo]

This is neither the Costa nor the Concordia. Did you miss the part about the incompetent captain?

 

nothing to support any of your statements. you're quite funny.

 

there are arms of this convo regarding the concordia. try to keep up.

 

next will be a stupid joke, probably. and then an analyzation of my time stamp.

Edited April 3, 2012 by H82seaUgo

[Sargent_Schultz]

If I have time to go back to my cabin, I'm getting my snorkel gear. I'm sure there will be room in one of the life boats/rafts once in the water.

[Sargent_Schultz]

nothing to support any of your statements. you're quite funny.

 

there are arms of this convo regarding the concordia. try to keep up.

 

So now you think you are on the Costa board?

 

The lack of proof is with anything you are alleging.

[Lets Ride]

I guess that leaves me the dancing girl.

 

 

Naked?

[marshhawk]

Cruise 1,2 and 3 muster drills first day-Legend was very professional, no phones, no ipads and no drinks. Last cruise, we were late leaving port, we had rough seas, a full day and night of drinks, and muster was after breakfast on the first sea day. People were barfing everywhere, we simply went to our location and sat there, they made an announcement. They told people that if they were handicapped to meet on a higher deck level. A few more people barfed and they let us go.:o DH said, next time we are on a cruise I will learn how to operate a life boat, cause i wouldn't depend on these "kids" to get anyone off safely-and that was before the Concordia.

[Rottweiler Puppy]

 

Have you ever been or seen people in a real crisis???

While ignorance increases the chances of panic, it isn't the sole cause of it.

VARIABLES...too many to even think of and it is totally up to the crew to keep the passengers who are freaking out from coming apart at the seams.

We should all be fortunate enough to cruise with 2 to 6k passengers that all remain calm in a horrifying situation....but what are the chances of THAT???

 

 

I have unfortunately seen and been in the midst of people in a real crisis. Not fun and I sure as heck don't want to experience it again let alone on a ship.

 

Ignorance isnt the sole cause of it but it plays a part. Leadership does and if Carnival cant even keep folks halfway civilized during a peaceful drill, they absolutely will fail at keeping order when the SHTF.

 

I do not expect the crew to handle it properly. I do expect people to flip out and be chaotic when tings go down. I have to take that into consideration and have a plan B.

[Aplmac]

smaller ships, we mustered in a lounge, and then were walked out to the lifeboat.

- and the lifeboats were way up top, on the verandah deck.

This photo below by MarcyN

perfectly illustrates the big difference between lifeboat positions Then -and Now!

 

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[Tonka's Skipper]

If you want people to take this seriously make them wear the life jacket.

 

 

I totally agree!.......AKK

[Aplmac]

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How does all this stuff work??

 

 

 

 

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[ElvisAndretti]

You shouldn't have to resort to this but yes it helps to concentrate the mind.

 

Another factor is to withhold alcohol until after muster drill is over

-then the alcohol can be served, but not before.

 

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I went helicopter skiing once, there was a safety lecture before we set out. They handed out avalanche beacons first and told us individually that "You wear this inside your clothes, we ALWAYS find the beacon".

 

They had our complete attention for the rest of the safety lecture. :eek:

Edited April 3, 2012 by ElvisAndretti

[okgirl]

that's what scared me the most with the concordia incident. they were just putting anyone in any boat. people going to their assigned boat found them full, or already launched.

 

But I think that's exactly what they do.....I don't take the announcement literally when they say muster stations A B C D E will be in lifeboats 1.3.5.7.9 and life rafts 2.4.6.8.10.......I assume when I get to my muster station I will be directing into a boat and as soon as that boat is full they will start directing passengers to the next available boat....

 

yeah. i saw they were having difficulties, but they got them all down. or so i thought. you have something that conflicts with that?

 

I think there were a couple hung up on the top side. I remember seeing one that was hanging from one end........

 

I think people going back to their cabins had more to do with the only instructions they were getting from the bridge was to remain calm and no call to muster was made for a ridiculously long time.......

 

People damn near riot at Guest Services for missing a port.......I can only imagine how crazy it must have been for the crew not to be instructed to load the boats but people wanting off that ship.......they had no choice but to try to regain some control by telling people to go back to their cabins.

[NKsDogWalker]

This thread has really opened my eyes. Thank you!! I am going on my 3rd cruise in June. My first muster drill was in a lounge and we didn't go out to the lifeboat... in fact I had no clue where "our" boat was. The second cruise we were standing on the outside deck near several life boats (both drills were without life vests). I honestly don't think anyone took it serious... especially since all the instructions were coming from the intercom. The person "in charge" was very hard to understand with the noises of the ship and the fact their accents are so strong. How effective are these drills? One thing that was laughable was when they said, "Women and children first"... there was a audible laugh since the boat was 90% women passengers.

[NKsDogWalker]

I think it has to do with survival instincts. If you are up on deck 12 forward doing something and those bells ring, in a true emergency who is going to say...I have to walk all the way to the aft and down 6 flights of stairs...instinct is going to take you down 6 flights of stairs to the CLOSEST lifeboat...and I think that is what happened on Concordia...if the ship is sinking, they are not going to tell you that you have to go to the front and other side of the ship to your lifeboat...

 

I don't really think anything will run smoothly in the event of an emergency, muster drill or not...

 

I also think by the time the abandon ship signal was given the ship was listing so much that some of the lifeboats were useless. One video I remember seeing was of a lifeboat trying to make it down an almost 90 degree angle. Physics tells us this is near impossible... but you do what you can when the other side of the ship is underwater. If the ship wasn't so close to shore I am sure alot more people would have died. Thank GOD it was close to shore!!