JLC@SD Posted April 8, 2012 #1 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Twice I have noticed that when a HAL ship departed Fort Lauderdale, the anchor on the starboard side was hanging down just above the water. Today it was the Eurodam with the anchor down. Anyone know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Alphen Posted April 8, 2012 #2 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Twice I have noticed that when a HAL ship departed Fort Lauderdale, the anchor on the starboard side was hanging down just above the water. Today it was the Eurodam with the anchor down. Anyone know why. This is safety precaution in port. Ships do this, in case they lose propulsion while maneuvering in harbor, they can drop anchor quickly, to prevent drifting into anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern_Viking Posted April 8, 2012 #3 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Twice I have noticed that when a HAL ship departed Fort Lauderdale, the anchor on the starboard side was hanging down just above the water. Today it was the Eurodam with the anchor down. Anyone know why. Just a guess, but perhaps the crew had just repainted (while in port) the section of the hull that the anchor normally rests against when fully retracted. I'm sure there aren't too many opportunities to paint that part of the ship, and it probably sees a significant amount of ware (so waiting until the next dry dock might not be an option). Don't HAL ships normally dock in Port Everglades with the Starboard side along the pier? If so, that would be the side that would be easier to paint while in port and that was the side you saw with the anchor partially lowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLC@SD Posted April 8, 2012 Author #4 Share Posted April 8, 2012 Twice I have noticed that when a HAL ship departed Fort Lauderdale, the anchor on the starboard side was hanging down just above the water. Today it was the Eurodam with the anchor down. Anyone know why. Here is a photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PathfinderEss Posted April 8, 2012 #5 Share Posted April 8, 2012 This is safety precaution in port. Ships do this, in case they lose propulsion while maneuvering in harbor, they can drop anchor quickly, to prevent drifting into anything. Thank you Alphen, totally makes sense, I just learn something. Seems alot of us were wondering the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiidan Posted April 8, 2012 #6 Share Posted April 8, 2012 as others have said large ships under way, very close the their minimum crontrol speed , like an airplane, take precautions:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modern_Viking Posted April 8, 2012 #7 Share Posted April 8, 2012 This is safety precaution in port. Ships do this, in case they lose propulsion while maneuvering in harbor, they can drop anchor quickly, to prevent drifting into anything. We must have been replying at the same time. Thanks for the info to reply my guess. Still, I don't seem to remember other ship lines doing the same thing. Could this be a HAL policy that not many others have, or they do have it and I just didn't notice? If ships were to do this with their port side anchors, the Port Everglades web cams would spot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted April 9, 2012 #8 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It actually helps the ship turn. Has nothing to do with safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innlady1 Posted April 9, 2012 #9 Share Posted April 9, 2012 This is safety precaution in port. Ships do this, in case they lose propulsion while maneuvering in harbor, they can drop anchor quickly, to prevent drifting into anything. Thanks from me, too, alphen! I just learned something I didn't know before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted April 9, 2012 #10 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Again, it has NOTHING to do with safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLC@SD Posted April 9, 2012 Author #11 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Here is a photo If ships were to do this with their port side anchors, the Port Everglades web cams would spot it. The photo I posted was a shot from the Port Everglades web cam. You can see the starboard side anchor, if it is down, as the ships approach the lower camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted April 9, 2012 #12 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Programmed to transmit not receive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeriatricNurse Posted April 13, 2012 #13 Share Posted April 13, 2012 It actually helps the ship turn. Has nothing to do with safety. Again, it has NOTHING to do with safety Programmed to transmit not receive mariner, I'm receiving! :D;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted April 13, 2012 #14 Share Posted April 13, 2012 It actually helps the ship turn. Can you explain how it does that? I can see if it was actually in the water producing a little drag, but just hanging in the air ... :confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rplc882 Posted April 13, 2012 #15 Share Posted April 13, 2012 It IS a SAFETY issue, the anchor is standing by to be let loose in case of a complete loss of steering or propulsion issues. And yes I am sure, RETIRED USN! Been there seen that dozens of times and YES not from any of my ships but it does work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YubaSutter Posted April 13, 2012 #16 Share Posted April 13, 2012 as others have said large ships under way, very close the their minimum crontrol speed , like an airplane, take precautions:cool: I've. Ever seen an anchor on an airplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted April 14, 2012 #17 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The anchor adds some weight to the side of the ship that is turning. Now, fair Navay sailors, if you were to drop the anchor in port at slow speed, what would happen? NOTHING. It's the chain that secures the ship. Hello! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl513 Posted April 14, 2012 #18 Share Posted April 14, 2012 The anchor adds some weight to the side of the ship that is turning. And wouldn't it add the same weight if it was in it's full up position? There's no leverage effect there. Straight down is straight down, whether it's at the water or high up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFD1 Posted April 14, 2012 #19 Share Posted April 14, 2012 I don't understand the weight issue. The anchor weighs the same up tight as hanging lose. Please explain?? The argument for the safety issue makes more sense, but I'm in over my head here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo-Bob Posted April 14, 2012 #20 Share Posted April 14, 2012 WIth all due respect, I love it when the sailors/engineers/captains/crew come aboard these 'boards' and share their opinions/experiences/knowledge. Credentials aside, it's mostly evident when a 'professional' shares his/her knowledge of 'all things marine.' All I know is I love ships. Love 'em. Love how they look, love how they sound,how they move in the water. Oh, yes, and there's that other wonderful aspect of having your every (mostly) need and desire met while enjoying all that shippy/watery stuff. I need to book a cruise. All you 'ocean professionals' really educate and enlighten and I for one appreciate and learn a little more all the time. Yup, going to book a cruise RIGHT NOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted April 14, 2012 #21 Share Posted April 14, 2012 That piece of metal hanging down adds to the list of the ship. Upright it doesn't. What you don't seem to understand is the anchor doesn't anchor the ship. The chain behind it does. So if the ship, while leaving port, drops the anchor, the stop isn't immediate. The chain must pay out. Hence, no safty factor. But the weight of it hanging helps the bow turn in the wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwams Posted April 14, 2012 #22 Share Posted April 14, 2012 It IS a SAFETY issue, the anchor is standing by to be let loose in case of a complete loss of steering or propulsion issues. And yes I am sure, RETIRED USN! Been there seen that dozens of times and YES not from any of my ships but it does work! Totally agree, spent 12 years as a boatswain's mate which job was assigned to be responsible for that operation. It is for safety reasons only especially in the narrow slot that the ship was maneuvering through. There is no way that with anchor hanging is going to help it turn faster, especially if your making a turn in the other direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted April 14, 2012 #23 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Well all I can tell you is this: Why doesnt every ship do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie724 Posted April 14, 2012 #24 Share Posted April 14, 2012 That piece of metal hanging down adds to the list of the ship. Upright it doesn't. What you don't seem to understand is the anchor doesn't anchor the ship. The chain behind it does. So if the ship, while leaving port, drops the anchor, the stop isn't immediate. The chain must pay out. Hence, no safty factor. But the weight of it hanging helps the bow turn in the wind. That TOTALLY makes sense to me.....I see it the same as if i'm carry my purse with all my junk in it. If i carry in my hand with my arm down by my side it will make my body lean to that side, if I carry the same purse close to the center of my body, it will be more balanced an not feel as heavy. See, it's really easy just use one of my favorite thing (a purse) and I get it.:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariner Posted April 14, 2012 #25 Share Posted April 14, 2012 Pretty much. Wind o n one side, weight on the other makes for a smoother swing. Lose of power? Holy Snap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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