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All I know is that on my first cruise I prepaid my tips and then also gave the cabin steward an extra $20 at the beginning of the trip- worst. mistake. ever. He was terrible.

 

This time the plan is to tip at the end.

 

it's a waste of money giving anyone anything at the beginning before you even know if you got a hit or a miss.

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I just tip what's recommended to bar staff & room service $1 or $2. I tip "generously" to the cabin stewards & waiters at the end of the cruise, they always go above & beyond service.

 

That's exactly what we do. We will tip the cabin steward extra if we make a special request as well, and we will tip at the time of the request

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Lol. Seriously??? If a person goes in a bar and leaves great tips is served before the person who leaves stingy tips,do you really think the threat of the stingy tipper avoiding him is going to bother him???

 

So true and I am so laughing about it.

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Im sorry you find it utterly appalling that anyone would stoop to such behavior as earning a living :)

 

Its really not rocket science, You and I go to a bar ,I have a $5 in my hand and my sign and sail and you have your sign and sail card,99 out of 100 times I get drinks before you and for the rest of the cruise they rememeber me and are waiting for me when I walk up.This is just not cruising its the way of the world .Everyone likes money its universal

 

I have absolutely no problem with anyone doing their best to make a living...... I just choose to support the ones who go about it honestly with dignity and integrity. :p

 

As far as universality, of course, money makes the world go round. But, there are also many cultures around the world where tipping is not only not required, employees are not allowed to accept tips.

 

North America has glamorized the whole tipping thing, and gone way too far with it. So much so, that is has become standard for people to feel they have the right to throw money at service industry employees and think they now own them.

 

It's all rather unfortunate, and yes, appalling.

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Lol. Seriously??? If a person goes in a bar and leaves great tips is served before the person who leaves stingy tips,do you really think the threat of the stingy tipper avoiding him is going to bother him???

 

Just to be clear, you are making the assumption of a stingy tipper, not I. And no, I have no problem with a server avoiding a stingy tipper. I do have an issue if a server pays more attention to an over-tipper.

 

I would think its common sense, that it's human nature, when someone treats you better, you treat them better. If your not a good tipper, they probably don't want to serve you anyway. Maybe pre-tipping a waitress should be industry standard to. They are the ones who really get screwed by bad tippers, AFTER, they give the customer great service. IMO, when you go to a restaurant or bar, topping is part of it, if you can't afford to tip, don't go

 

Not sure if all that was in response to my post.....

 

Tipping is fine, I have no problem with tipping.

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Buy backs are stealing and all of us bartenders would get fired if caught

 

Myself I give alittle more liquor or if I see you come to the bar give faster service ,but no one should put their job on the line for a free drink

 

Must be a Jersey thing. Never seen any of my bartenders fired. Buy backs are omnipresent where I'm from, for at least 40 years.

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I have absolutely no problem with anyone doing their best to make a living...... I just choose to support the ones who go about it honestly with dignity and integrity. :p

 

As far as universality, of course, money makes the world go round. But, there are also many cultures around the world where tipping is not only not required, employees are not allowed to accept tips.

 

North America has glamorized the whole tipping thing, and gone way too far with it. So much so, that is has become standard for people to feel they have the right to throw money at service industry employees and think they now own them.

 

It's all rather unfortunate, and yes, appalling.

 

Well again I disagree I do have morals and am honest

 

As far as different cultures not tipping those workers get paid a wage BUT if the people from Europe,Central and South America and of course Canada dont want to follow the guidelines maybe they should not expect the same service

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I have absolutely no problem with anyone doing their best to make a living...... I just choose to support the ones who go about it honestly with dignity and integrity. :p

 

As far as universality, of course, money makes the world go round. But, there are also many cultures around the world where tipping is not only not required, employees are not allowed to accept tips.

 

North America has glamorized the whole tipping thing, and gone way too far with it. So much so, that is has become standard for people to feel they have the right to throw money at service industry employees and think they now own them.

 

It's all rather unfortunate, and yes, appalling.

 

I can understand you may not like it, or you disagree with it. But appalling? Really. You are horrified or disgusted by it?

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I don't think we are generous, but we do tip for service and service well done.

 

Starting with the baggage guys, we give $10 for our bags, typically two.

We give the recommended tips that are automatically charged and never changed them.

 

We then have given extra in cash based on service and certainly not on every cruise. On our honeymoon we gave our room steward an extra $20, he was very kind. On our panama canal 14 day trip, my in- laws 40th anniversary family cruise, we gave our wait staff and the maitreD each an extra $35 each. And for drinks, while not every time, there have been those who remember our names, our drinks and where we will be and they have gotten an extra $1 -$5 per drink.

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Well again I disagree I do have morals and am honest

 

As far as different cultures not tipping those workers get paid a wage BUT if the people from Europe,Central and South America and of course Canada dont want to follow the guidelines maybe they should not expect the same service

 

We aren't talking about people who don't follow guidelines, we are discussing people who over tip, and how some servers (you being one) will give preferential treatment to those that over tip, and in doing so, ignore those of us who tip per guidelines.

 

I'm more than happy never to grace the presence of servers who are biased with their service.

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Must be a Jersey thing. Never seen any of my bartenders fired. Buy backs are omnipresent where I'm from, for at least 40 years.

 

Its for sure not a Jersey thing theft is theft

 

Neighborhood bars are a bit different ,bartenders/owners see the same regulars daily/weekly and buy backs are accepted as part of the business

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Its for sure not a Jersey thing theft is theft

 

Neighborhood bars are a bit different ,bartenders/owners see the same regulars daily/weekly and buy backs are accepted as part of the business

 

I went to a pub just Tuesday taking DD out for a late lunch after her first day of high school. My second drink was on them.

 

Never been in the place before.

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I can understand you may not like it, or you disagree with it. But appalling? Really. You are horrified or disgusted by it?

 

Yes, it's appalling behavior to ignore any guest, and even more so if someone else is throwing more money around.

 

Don't get me wrong, I would have a hard time serving someone knowing they would not tip me. But that's all part of being in the service industry. The level of service should have nothing to do with the amount a person tips.

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I went to a pub just Tuesday taking DD out for a late lunch after her first day of high school. My second drink was on them.

 

Never been in the place before.

 

The server/bartender stole in hopes of a bigger tip

 

Ask the owner if he bought you that drink :)

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Yes, it's appalling behavior to ignore any guest, and even more so if someone else is throwing more money around.

 

Don't get me wrong, I would have a hard time serving someone knowing they would not tip me. But that's all part of being in the service industry. The level of service should have nothing to do with the amount a person tips.

 

The guidelines are just that, guidelines. But they are not set in stone, you can tip below them or above them, it is your choice. If someone chooses to tip more than you, does not make them or the server appalling IMO. That's the way businesses work, from the bottom to the top. The more you spend the better service you will get. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. You think if I go to a casino in Vegas I will get treated the same as a High Roller? Is it fair the High Roller gets treated better because they spent more money?

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The guidelines are just that, guidelines. But they are not set in stone, you can tip below them or above them, it is your choice. If someone chooses to tip more than you, does not make them or the server appalling IMO. That's the way businesses work, from the bottom to the top. The more you spend the better service you will get. Right or wrong, that's the way it is. You think if I go to a casino in Vegas I will get treated the same as a High Roller? Is it fair the High Roller gets treated better because they spent more money?

 

Let's keep the analogies on the same level......

 

If you're a high roller, tipping as the guidelines dictate, should you get less service than another high roller who tips slightly more?

 

Tipping is not the appalling part of my point, it's the biased service a server gives based on a better tip. If someone wants to throw money around go ahead, but if that affects the level of service I receive tipping as suggested, that's not right (the server for showing preference, not the tipper).

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Let's keep the analogies on the same level......

 

If you're a high roller, tipping as the guidelines dictate, should you get less service than another high roller who tips slightly more?

 

Tipping is not the appalling part of my point, it's the biased service a server gives based on a better tip. If someone wants to throw money around go ahead, but if that affects the level of service I receive tipping as suggested, that's not right (the server for showing preference, not the tipper).

 

I'm just using an analogy we can probably both understand, but it's the same on all levels. The more you spend the better the service. I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's how it works. If I feel I am getting poor service, then the tips just go down, but just because I'm not getting the same service as money bags, doesn't mean my service is bad either

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Let's keep the analogies on the same level......

 

If you're a high roller, tipping as the guidelines dictate, should you get less service than another high roller who tips slightly more?

 

Tipping is not the appalling part of my point, it's the biased service a server gives based on a better tip. If someone wants to throw money around go ahead, but if that affects the level of service I receive tipping as suggested, that's not right (the server for showing preference, not the tipper).

 

Now we are talking guidelines lol

 

Anyone who has never worked for tips will never get the point

 

Those of us who rely on tips and try to give our perspective get told how bad we are and have no dignity :)

 

I and anyone else who works for tips will take 100% better care of the high roller who tips than not.Its not morals its our income.I dont work for free and my time is important

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I'm just using an analogy we can probably both understand, but it's the same on all levels. The more you spend the better the service. I'm not saying I agree with it, but that's how it works. If I feel I am getting poor service, then the tips just go down, but just because I'm not getting the same service as money bags, doesn't mean my service is bad either

 

Yup, and I would apply that to a server giving biased service as well. If a server is ignoring me, to serve someone else first becasue they tip better, they won't be getting a tip from me.

 

That's something that mikel24m doesn't seem to understand. He could (will) loose out on tips for biased service.

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Now we are talking guidelines lol

 

Anyone who has never worked for tips will never get the point

 

Those of us who rely on tips and try to give our perspective get told how bad we are and have no dignity :)

 

I and anyone else who works for tips will take 100% better care of the high roller who tips than not.Its not morals its our income.I dont work for free and my time is important

 

110% agree! I have seen servers run in the back when a rude and bad tippers has come in.

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Yup, and I would apply that to a server giving biased service as well. If a server is ignoring me, to serve someone else first becasue they tip better, they won't be getting a tip from me.

 

That's something that mikel24m doesn't seem to understand. He could (will) loose out on tips for biased service.

 

if mikel24m gives poor service, and I'm not saying they do, then I guarantee you they have lost money

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Now we are talking guidelines lol

 

Anyone who has never worked for tips will never get the point

 

Those of us who rely on tips and try to give our perspective get told how bad we are and have no dignity :)

 

I and anyone else who works for tips will take 100% better care of the high roller who tips than not.Its not morals its our income.I dont work for free and my time is important

 

The duscussion is about how "generous" are your tips. Then you suggested that bribes (pre-tipping) would lead to preferential treatment, and also suggested over-tipping would give excellent service.

 

The level of service you provide should not be based on how much someone tips. You will loose out on tips doing so.

 

See how far that gets you working at a crowded bar, one person tips you $50, so you ignore the 20 other customers standing at the bar as soon as big spender walks up for another round.

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Yup, and I would apply that to a server giving biased service as well. If a server is ignoring me, to serve someone else first becasue they tip better, they won't be getting a tip from me.

 

That's something that mikel24m doesn't seem to understand. He could (will) loose out on tips for biased service.

 

Never once did I say I give poor service or ignore anyone regardless of what they do or dont tip.Its my job to serve whatever you order,just nothing extra :)

 

I did say my memory is awesome and those that take care of me will know I appreciate it and I will make them feel special

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