jeanlyon Posted September 25, 2012 #1 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Channel 4 - Monday 1st October 8pm The truth below decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorsetlad Posted September 25, 2012 #2 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I wonder if it will actually be the true truth, or journalistic truth, which tends to be better for viewing figures.:eek: Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted September 25, 2012 Author #3 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Oh probably Brian, depends. It's Dispatches, so must be someone undercover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamgirl1957 Posted September 25, 2012 #4 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Have put a note on the calender! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo67 Posted September 25, 2012 #5 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Just set Sky+ :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balcony queen Posted September 25, 2012 #6 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Channel 4 - Monday 1st October 8pm The truth below decks. Thank you for the early warning:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEACHPAD04 Posted September 25, 2012 #7 Share Posted September 25, 2012 What station is this, Fox, NBC, ? :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickatkirkby Posted September 26, 2012 #8 Share Posted September 26, 2012 What station is this, Fox, NBC, ? :p Beachpad04 Sorry but it's a British channel. You may be able to see it online after 1st October tho' if you can access from the US try http://www.channel4.com/programmes/4od Setting Humax now as I'll be on Oceana Sunday bound for Venice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aydogflipper Posted September 26, 2012 #9 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Thanks, set the sky box for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishlady Posted September 27, 2012 #10 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Must remember , channel. 4 Monday night next , 9 our time :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daftlad Posted September 28, 2012 #11 Share Posted September 28, 2012 I would have thought that given most of the people on this forum are not novices to cruising, the content will hardly shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver service Posted September 28, 2012 #12 Share Posted September 28, 2012 As daft lad says, all of us on here with an interest with all thing cruising, Will already have a very good idea, of what goes on below! However, should make for a entertaining, half hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejuggler Posted October 1, 2012 #13 Share Posted October 1, 2012 30 seconds in and the word 'exploitation' has been uttered. Expect 30 minutes of nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davedex Posted October 1, 2012 #14 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Has anyone mentioned that the wage is tax free? And that all the accommodation, food,etc is paid for? Seven tenths of the world is covered in sea - that's a lot of cruising to do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted October 1, 2012 Author #15 Share Posted October 1, 2012 The hours they work with no time off are horrendous. I would rather they put up the price of the cruise and paid them a decent wage or gave them some rest time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorsetlad Posted October 1, 2012 #16 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Those conditions certainly don't appear to be the norm on P&O. Many a time we have seen crew members on shore leave when in port. I really doubt the authenticity of some of the points covered, else why do so many staff seem to keep working the cruise ships, and there seems to be no shortage of people waiting to join them. Some amount of journalistic licence seems to have been used. Still, I guess it's good for viewing figures.:rolleyes: Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dthompsond1 Posted October 1, 2012 #17 Share Posted October 1, 2012 A couple of thoughts,the wages are very low for somebody living in the UK, as the undercover reporter does, however they never mentioned how they compare to the wages in the countries the majority of crew members come from. Also Celebrity Eclipse was flying under the Maltese flag. Isn't Malta a member of the EU? in which case surely the crew should be sailing under EU regulations regarding wages and conditions. Why was this not mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarquin Posted October 2, 2012 #18 Share Posted October 2, 2012 A couple of thoughts,the wages are very low for somebody living in the UK, as the undercover reporter does, however they never mentioned how they compare to the wages in the countries the majority of crew members come from. Also Celebrity Eclipse was flying under the Maltese flag. Isn't Malta a member of the EU? in which case surely the crew should be sailing under EU regulations regarding wages and conditions. Why was this not mentioned. You beat me to it;) The worlds economy has never been fair and to draw comparisons between UK minimum wage and those in eg the Phillipines was mindless. It does seem that agency recruitment plays a big part in the way staff are employed and a closer look at the employee contracts wouldn't go amiss. I always wonder how they quantify the amount of tips a worker will receive? We left a tenner for the cabin maid following our 2 day cruise with P&O. That was on top of the compulsory charge added to one's bill. If she picked up a few pounds from each cabin it could be quite lucrative and only misplaced honesty would see it declared to the bosses wouldn't it?:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonpjd Posted October 2, 2012 #19 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Sorry I missed the program but from the comments it is obvious what they were showing. And valid points made all round. With regard to Indian crew: 1 There is always a queue at the agency doors in India for people wanting the job. 2 The wages, while low by western standards, are high by Indian standards. As an example. As a cadet at sea my wage was £55 / month. Not a lot but no tax, free food and accommodation meant it was effectively pocket money so I thought it was fine. I was paid more than any member of the crew (Indian). But they were all wealthy men back in their towns in India. I had many a long chat with them talking about it and they all knew the score and most were sending back most of their pay to keep their family going. They signed on for a year then would have around 3 months off before joining their next vessel. I lost my job at sea when companies realised that the officers could be Indian too and their pay was about a third that of the UK officers. That is what economics is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old git Posted October 2, 2012 #20 Share Posted October 2, 2012 We've all cruised before,we know what the pay is(or should)but when you talk with them they are a lot better off than working in their home country and it gives them and the family a good standard of living. How much pay rise you want them to have depends on the price you are prepared to pay. keep smiling:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wales4ever Posted October 2, 2012 #21 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Its still a whole lot more pay than they would be getting in the Philippines or India where a lot of the staff on cruise ships are from - which is why they are on there. And they still earn enough to be able to send money back home to their families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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