Rare milling73 Posted December 19, 2012 #1 Share Posted December 19, 2012 We took our first river cruise with Viking in April 2012 - The Rhine Getaway. We were so totally impressed with Viking's efficiency, the tours, the ship, the complete package, that upon our return we immediately booked 2 more trips for 2013. And we are now looking at booking for 2014 The Imperial Jewels of China. However, there is one aspect of Viking that we strongly do not agree with. And I know that Viking monitors these sites, as I've seen them respond -- so this is really an open letter to Viking Management, and maybe if enough of us agree with my issue -- they will respond with a change in policy. Viking's booking policy is to place an initial deposit, plus insurance, which is reasonable. What is not resonable is that full payment is expected months / year in advance. (Right now for 2014 Jewels of China Full Payment is due by mid-February 2013.) If I do book with another company, it will be because of their booking policy vs Vikings’. Yes, I know we can get (some) money back, etc..but that is a hassle. Bottom line -- we are giving Viking thousands of dollars, months to well over a year in advance of a trip -- basically deposited on faith that we will go, and that Viking will even still be in business. I’ve been looking at other lines (Avalon for one). They offer very similar trips / prices. The biggest difference ---- final payment is due 90 days out. That seems so much more fair and reasonable to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nana541 Posted December 19, 2012 #2 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I too hope Viking is listening..... And that Viking should know they lost me as a cruiser.... I booked a Suite on Avalon for Sept 2013 Paris to Prague! I paid a deposit and also purchased Trip Insurance and do NOT pay the balance until June 2013 - 90 days prior to cruise departing. So all I can say is that Viking lost a high-end income stream from this cruise passenger.... Not to mention cruises in the future. My plan is to book AMA for Amsterdam to Budapest next. AMA is also not requiring pmt in full months or a year in advance. Sorry Viking, I love your common sense posts on CC but I will not be joining you on any of your trips due to your "Payment Policies" :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rxgrad98 Posted December 19, 2012 #3 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I agree!! We just returned from the Viking Sun and had to pay for that trip in full by 5/31/2011 for a sailing on 11/25/2012. It was our first trip with Viking and we enjoyed it tremendously; so much so, we booked a Passage to Eastern Europe sailing for March 2014. That final payment is due by 5/31/2013. They say it's to "lock in" price. I wish they would change their policy; other lines let you pay 70-90 days out, why can't they? I guess they need the money to finance their aggressive longship building program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfirsttimer Posted December 19, 2012 #4 Share Posted December 19, 2012 That's the only reason I don't book with Viking, wanting full payment so far in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare YoungDubFan Posted December 19, 2012 #5 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Viking seems to be the only company that requires payment in full so early. They may claim it is to lock in the price, but other lines will allow you to lock in the price, once a deposit is made. The final price does not go up once booked. I actually put my $250 deposit down in Feb 2011 for a May 2012 trip with Avalon and I was able to lock in the 2011 price while doing so. I don't know why Viking has the policies that they do, but they have more ships than any other company, and obviously don't seem to have much trouble filling these. It would seem that as long as they can fill their ships, they can continue their business practices as they do. They don't mind losing customers to other companies because there seem to be plenty willing to accept Viking's terms. As many have said on many different lines, this is one of the reasons that I will never cruise with Viking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nana541 Posted December 19, 2012 #6 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Well this is apparently a "Business Model" that works for them and they have plenty of Happy Cruisers! I just like to invest in more than one trip and that pmt upfront does NOT work with my "Business Model" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare franski Posted December 20, 2012 #7 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) Actually, Uniworld has a somewhat similar process... if you want their "best" price. You can get a discount for early booking and paying a deposit. But - the best price is if you will pay in full when booking. We did just that when we booked our cruise in Russia with Uniworld - as the price reduction was significantly more than what we would have made leaving our money in the bank and paying the balance 90 days out. While I do agree that paying in full up front is not my first choice, I did exactly that for our Viking cruise next April. They had the itinerary, and the price that I wanted - so paying for the entire cruise at time of booking wasn't a big deal - when we ended up with the trip we wanted. Fran Edited December 20, 2012 by franski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Junky Posted December 20, 2012 #8 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Completely agree with you and they lost our booking because of it. We were on the fence between just booking a couple of cities by land or booking a river cruise...not only was the land trip under 1/2 the cost, the full payment deal was a complete deal breaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
id est Posted December 20, 2012 #9 Share Posted December 20, 2012 We are trying not to book so far in advance. Acceptable term is not earlier than 3-4 months before the cruise. Thus we'll never have such problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare franski Posted December 20, 2012 #10 Share Posted December 20, 2012 We are trying not to book so far in advance. Acceptable term is not earlier than 3-4 months before the cruise. Thus we'll never have such problems. I do wish you luck with that... There is not always a lot of options that close to sailing time - but if you are really flexible with dates, cruise line and cabin category - then you might be able to find a good deal. You might have to look at booking air with the cruise line to get a good price (unless you have points...). We have found our best prices for air are often 7-10 months out. Fran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
id est Posted December 20, 2012 #11 Share Posted December 20, 2012 We have found our best prices for air are often 7-10 months out. Fran Yes, I know. Thanks for good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonnh Posted December 20, 2012 #12 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I believe Vantage also has a sliding discount scale concerning payments. 10% if paid twelve months in advance decreasing as you approach the sailing date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nordski Posted December 20, 2012 #13 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I do wish you luck with that... There is not always a lot of options that close to sailing time - but if you are really flexible with dates, cruise line and cabin category - then you might be able to find a good deal. You might have to look at booking air with the cruise line to get a good price (unless you have points...). We have found our best prices for air are often 7-10 months out. Fran Interesting comment that best air prices are often 7-10 months out . We have kind of assumed that 3-5 was best, and indeed we had to wait for that time period for our upcoming cruise. The price dropped $300. pp. Perhaps this recent example was an anomaly and we should adjust our thinking. There is some suggestion that airlines are going to reduce the number of flights to Europe this year and that may exert pressure on prices and make timing even more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare franski Posted December 20, 2012 #14 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Interesting comment that best air prices are often 7-10 months out . We have kind of assumed that 3-5 was best, and indeed we had to wait for that time period for our upcoming cruise. The price dropped $300. pp. Perhaps this recent example was an anomaly and we should adjust our thinking. There is some suggestion that airlines are going to reduce the number of flights to Europe this year and that may exert pressure on prices and make timing even more important. We usually book our trips 9-12 months out (or more...) We booked our "Passage to Eastern Europe" cruise for April 2013 in mid-July - and then started watching for flights. Of course, open jaw is more expensive - and figured anything under $1000/pp into Bucharest and out of Budapest would be a great price. We booked for just under $800/pp - and were thrilled. The current price (just over 4 months out...) is over $900/pp - still not bad, however... Same with our trip to Russia... We booked our air 9 months out - and managed to get into St. Petersburg and out of Moscow for under $1000/pp. I have seen some great sales on cruises - but when I looked into air, the cost of travel eroded any cost savings associated with the cruise itself. It can be time consuming to keep a close eye on the cost of flights - but it has usually worked out well for us. Fran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT_Aussie Posted January 25, 2013 #15 Share Posted January 25, 2013 We are booked on a cruise this June - we booked it July last year and paid our deposit - our balance is not due for another couple of weeks , which is 4 months out. I had to pay our airfares then and there on the spot - so don't have a problem with paying Viking 4 months out. Seems reasonable as if we withdraw (oh so unlikely) then they have time to find a new passanger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Cruise Junky Posted January 25, 2013 #16 Share Posted January 25, 2013 We are booked on a cruise this June - we booked it July last year and paid our deposit - our balance is not due for another couple of weeks , which is 4 months out. I had to pay our airfares then and there on the spot - so don't have a problem with paying Viking 4 months out. Seems reasonable as if we withdraw (oh so unlikely) then they have time to find a new passanger I wouldn't have had an issue with 4 months in advance. When we were looking the price went up quite a bit if the cruise wasn't paid in full within a few weeks of booking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelBugM Posted February 1, 2013 #17 Share Posted February 1, 2013 We booked Viking's Douro River cruise almost a year out and paid in full. When booking, there were certain categories already sold out and only a short time later the ship was completely sold out for our dates and many dates offered before and after our dates. Supply and demand seems to play a big factor. Viking had the dates and length of cruise we wanted, so we paid and are now looking forward to our cruise. Would the payment in full deter me from booking Viking in the future? Probably not if they were offering what I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MareT Posted February 1, 2013 #18 Share Posted February 1, 2013 You might want to use their custom air. It's $50 pp. We used them and were able to get non-stops to and from. Of course, we are fortunate to live close to a major airport. Research what flights you would want . . see if you can come up with something better and call their custom air. It may be worth the extra $50 pp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcop Posted February 2, 2013 #19 Share Posted February 2, 2013 This is a little off the subject but what does everyone think of the Viking Advertisements indicating 2 for the price of 1? We cruised with Viking several years ago and it was fantastic. I mean it was the perfect vacation. The crew was wonderful, the food, the scenery, everything. However, I am annoyed with advertisements that say "Two for the price of one" and show a figure of say $4,000, but that is "Per Person" So the cost for two is really $8,000. I must get a card or brochure weekly from Viking with these so called special fares. It was so disappointing to call and find that the price shown was more like a bait and switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delraydoll Posted February 23, 2013 #20 Share Posted February 23, 2013 I've posted on this subject before. We're doing Viking for the first and last time in June, Berlin-Prague. The final payment date is negotiable, but you really have to "deal" with your travel agent and Viking. We booked the trip for May '13 in May '12, and they wanted full payment the end of that month. After negotiations, we didn't have to make final payment 'til Dec. Uniworld and Avalon, at least, offer a deep discount if you pay in full up front, up to $2,000/couple! Plus, with Viking, you might be charged foreign transaction fee depending on your credit card as the charge goes thru as Basel, CH (Switzerland). You'll be reimbursed the fee by your travel agent or Viking, but the fact that I hadn't been told about this in the first place is what annoyed the heck out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockman41 Posted June 21, 2013 #21 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I am writing this in June of 2013. Wanted to book a cruise on their new Ocean Cruise Ship named the Viking Star. The cruise is for May 30, of 2015, yet they want full payment by Dec of 2013. This is crazy to have to tie up 15K for 17 months before the cruise. We are going on a Celebrity cruise in May of 2014 and final payment is not due till Feb of 2014. I can't pay for 2 cruises at the same time especially when one is 17 months further out. We go on Oceania and they don't require final payment until 120 days before cruise. We did do the Chinese River cruise last year but booked much later so the final payment date was a lot closer to the cruise date. Come on Viking! Wise up and start being more competitive with your competation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avid Travelers Posted April 15, 2017 #22 Share Posted April 15, 2017 Today is April 15, 2017 and I am trying to book three (3) cabins with Viking River Cruises for the Rhine Getaway from 16-23 Dec 2017. We have been on two previous Viking cruises (Nurnberg to Budapest 2013 and the Russian Czars trip from St Petersburg, Russia to Moscow 2016) and both cruises were booked within 2-3 months of travel. We are now trying to book three cabins for three couples for a cruise that is eight (8) months away and they are demanding full payment by May 23, 2017, nearly seven (7) months before the cruise. I pushed back and said that we would pay the $1,000 deposit immediately and we would like to pay in full no earlier than 90 days before our sailing date. The representative refused, so I asked if his manager could authorize it and he said no, that it was a Viking policy. It is a real shame that a company as good as Viking will shoot themselves in the foot by demanding full payment seven months in advance of a cruise. I can only guess that by holding their clients money for that long is partially what enables them to grow their fleet so fast. I would ask/hope that they would reconsider their policy and allow full payment at 90 days out, otherwise, they are losing lots of business and damaging their reputation.:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_T Posted April 15, 2017 #23 Share Posted April 15, 2017 That odd thing is they only seem to do this in the NA market. In Europe, Australia etc. they are happy with 90 days or so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravelBugM Posted April 16, 2017 #24 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Don't think Viking is losing lots of business due to its payment policy as its ships are always full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDC1 Posted April 16, 2017 #25 Share Posted April 16, 2017 They might be full, but then so are the other cruise lines that have better payment terms. I have gone on Viking a few years ago, but will not do another with their current business practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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