Fire on Carnival Triumph. No engines, running on emergency generators.

[Lizzzys]

CARNIVAL TRIUMPH STATEMENT

 

Latest Update on Carnival Triumph February 13, 2013 – 5:45pm EST

 

Carnival Cruise Lines has announced further compensation for the passengers aboard the Carnival Triumph, currently being towed via tug boats to Mobile, Alabama after an engine room fire early Sunday caused a loss of propulsion.

 

All guests on the current voyage will receive further compensation of $500.00 per person.

 

Gerry Cahill, President & CEO of Carnival Cruise Lines said: “We know it has been a longer journey back than we anticipated at the beginning of the week under very challenging circumstances. We are very sorry for what our guests have had to endure. Therefore, in addition to the full refund and future cruise credit already offered, we have decided to provide this additional compensation. I look forward to welcoming everyone to Mobile tomorrow and have mobilized our full resources to assist and support them as they travel home.”

 

As previously announced, all 3,143 guests on board will receive a full refund of the cruise along with transportation expenses and reimbursement of all shipboard purchases during the voyage, with the exception of gift shop, art purchases and casino charges. All passengers will also receive a future cruise credit equal to the amount paid for this voyage.

[Flying is for Planes]

Carnival Safety highlighted in this report and this was 2012

 

http://economics-files.pomona.edu/jlikens/SeniorSeminars/Likens2012/reports/Carnival.pdf

[Half Pint]

23 million Americans a year get noro. By my Calculations that gives a probability of about 1 in 4000 people have the virus. So probability is there is someone on the ship with it. Under the conditions we have heard about, this could spread like wildfire.

 

My point was the conditions on the ship don't cause noro, like the poster I quoted was implying.

 

But yes, the probability is there, albeit very small, that someone came on board already infected.

[ducklite]

Ah, yes... all of the additional ground personnel coming in. That's right. That was only mentioned once, and never really talked about on here so I completely forgot about that. Makes sense. Thanks.

 

 

 

Why? To cover food, sundries at the hotels?

 

It still doesn't address a weeks worth of lost wages.

[Rasvar]

 

Why? To cover food, sundries at the hotels?

 

CNN stated it was to compensate for some of the extra time. I'm pretty sure all food and hotels will be covered in full. That is $500 on top of that.

[Half Pint]

Might fit in in NOLA after Mardi Gras (covered in bodily fluids and haven't showered in several days).... Not those bodily fluids (get you mind out of the gutter).:p

 

I've been to NOLA. *shudder* It wasn't even during Mardi Gras.

 

'Nuf said. :p

[ROB427]

LOL...... Don't even go there. Name a situation that Royal Caribbean has had as bad as the Splendor or Triumph? Go ahead. Carnival is by far the worst cruise line for incidents. Just a few years back there were three or four Carnival ships in one year that ran into other docked ships. Two of the ships hit were Royal Caribbean ships. One Carnival ship backed into the pier in Galveston that same year so let's not point fingers at other cruise lines when your own takes the record. ;)

 

 

Monarch of the Seas December 1998. We hit a reef leaving St. Marten and had to evacuate ship. We used tenders to disembark. We stayed the night in a community center, no beds only chairs with 400 other passengers. Cabs would bring food and people were fighting over bran cereal and cold sandwiches. Were stuck in St. Marten for 2 days, before RCCL chartered planes and flew us to Miami. The cabin stewards packed our luggage and it was thrown in a parking lot for us to find, I spent the better part of a day looking at luggage and found 1 of 4 bags. The others were shipped to us 2 weeks later. When we arrived in Miami we were taken to a nice resort on Miami Beach and were given toiletries and undergarments. RCCL did what they could to make it right.

We found out later the Capitan turned in, and the ship did not use a pilot to navigate the passage leaving the port. According to the Coast Guard we were within 30 minutes of sinking.

This was our first cruise and we have cruised several times since.

[LSUcajunmom]

Not sure if this has been posted but didn't feel like searching. ABC news aerial photo of Triumph.

[Tutankhamen]

My point was the conditions on the ship don't cause noro, like the poster I quoted was implying.

 

But yes, the probability is there, albeit very small, that someone came on board already infected.

 

Probability very high that at least one person on the ship had noro. 23 million people a year get noro in America. Thats roughly 7-8 percent.

 

take 7 percent of 4000 people and you get 280 people. 280 people on that ship will most likely get noro in the course of a year. So chances are 1 person had active noro during the cruise.

[berryberry]

 

PS According to CNN, every passenger will now get an additional $500 per pax on top of the refund.

 

Why? To cover food, sundries at the hotels?

 

Hush money

 

Seriously. Carnival knows the conditions are bad. They are trying to limit their damages. People have lost a week's worth of wages and had to endure unsanitary conditions. I am sure this is to try and appease them

[ducklite]

My point was the conditions on the ship don't cause noro, like the poster I quoted was implying.

 

But yes, the probability is there, albeit very small, that someone came on board already infected.

 

I could be very wrong, but because Carnival made such a big deal about the triage tents and medical personnel being available for passengers at the port, it makes me strongly suspect that there is at least one illness raging through that ship.

[guxu]

Carnival abandoned Mobile two years ago without notice. Never thought it returns this way.

[Rasvar]

CARNIVAL TRIUMPH STATEMENT

 

Latest Update on Carnival Triumph February 13, 2013 – 5:45pm EST

 

Carnival Cruise Lines has announced further compensation for the passengers aboard the Carnival Triumph, currently being towed via tug boats to Mobile, Alabama after an engine room fire early Sunday caused a loss of propulsion.

 

All guests on the current voyage will receive further compensation of $500.00 per person.

 

Gerry Cahill, President & CEO of Carnival Cruise Lines said: “We know it has been a longer journey back than we anticipated at the beginning of the week under very challenging circumstances. We are very sorry for what our guests have had to endure. Therefore, in addition to the full refund and future cruise credit already offered, we have decided to provide this additional compensation. I look forward to welcoming everyone to Mobile tomorrow and have mobilized our full resources to assist and support them as they travel home.”

 

 

I assume that means that he will be onsite to meet everyone tomorrow. That should be interesting.

[dwjoe]

Perspective on onboard conditions from someone who was on the Splendor.

 

I can't speak for the triumph passengers but what you can't believe is probably true. I was on the splendor for its engine room fire... The toilets were out of order for only a day and there was definitely nasty seepage coming out into the hallways from under the walls of some cabins. That was only one day, I don't even want to know what it looks like for them. Plus the public restroom were indeed overflowing nastiness I only made that mistake once. At least the triumph people were provided bags to go in... We weren't. The people whose cabins were in the aft never got working toilets.

 

You don't think people ate onion sandwiches? I bet thy did. Here's the thing, the staff made trays of sandwiches and put them out... For the line that took an hour plus to get to the front. Other people just picked everything out of other sandwiches and put it on theirs to make it bigger. I had lettuce and tomato sandwich one night because everything else had been taken out before me. Not a big deal, but just saying that an onion sandwich is feasible. People were taking more than they needed and didn't hesitate to touch all the other food to pick out what they wanted.

 

And I can attest to the tons of people sleeping on deck and in the dining room or the big comfy chairs in the public areas. If you don't think this is possible... It is.. The interior cabins are brutal without air conditioning regardless of being on a lower deck or not. It was the weirdest thing walking down the hallway with everyone's door propped open.

 

Even after all that I would have never considered suing. They took care of us the best they could. And the staff worked soo hard even knowing all their prepaid tips were being refunded to the passengers.

I did however take the free cruise but it was more than a year before I had enough time off to take a real vacation again. That being said I do not agree with the haters saying they would do it because its better than being at work. Hell no, easy for you to say sitting at your computer. I would take a trouble free vacation over having to worry about food and a working toilet any day...

 

I wish all the triumph passengers safe return, a hot meal and a hot shower!!!

 

:)

[scottamemnon]

CNN stated it was to compensate for some of the extra time. I'm pretty sure all food and hotels will be covered in full. That is $500 on top of that.

 

I think they are actually being pretty fair on all of this.

 

That is $500 per passenger, not per cabin.

 

So people are getting a full refund, a free future cruise, and an additional $1000 for your trouble, plus they are covering your transportation.

 

I am looking at it as getting 3 free cruises for the cost of a few really bad days.

 

Of course my perspective could be a little off since I have an 18mo old in the house, so piles of poop and rivers of urine are normal.

[truecruiser]

Interesting.

 

I had envisioned one tug on each side of the ship, not one in front pulling and one in back helping to keep the aft staying in the right direction.

 

Me too. How does a tow for a ship this size work? How is he keeping it straight in the back without adding more stress to the engine of the first tug, regardless that he has power? I unfortunately had to get towed once. But I unfortunately don't own a cruise ship, lol.. they actually went from the front, and i have seen some from the side. You'd think they'd be side by side for maximum control and speed?

 

Do wind and water conditions determine their placement? Anyone know? Dockguy is a coast guard guy right?

 

CARNIVAL TRIUMPH STATEMENT

 

Latest Update on Carnival Triumph February 13, 2013 – 5:45pm EST

 

Carnival Cruise Lines has announced further compensation for the passengers aboard the Carnival Triumph, currently being towed via tug boats to Mobile, Alabama after an engine room fire early Sunday caused a loss of propulsion.

 

All guests on the current voyage will receive further compensation of $500.00 per person.

 

Gerry Cahill, President & CEO of Carnival Cruise Lines said: “We know it has been a longer journey back than we anticipated at the beginning of the week under very challenging circumstances. We are very sorry for what our guests have had to endure. Therefore, in addition to the full refund and future cruise credit already offered, we have decided to provide this additional compensation. I look forward to welcoming everyone to Mobile tomorrow and have mobilized our full resources to assist and support them as they travel home.”

 

As previously announced, all 3,143 guests on board will receive a full refund of the cruise along with transportation expenses and reimbursement of all shipboard purchases during the voyage, with the exception of gift shop, art purchases and casino charges. All passengers will also receive a future cruise credit equal to the amount paid for this voyage.

 

thx for posting. so, it's to accommodate for the extra days' delay in returning back to port.

[ducklite]

I assume that means that he will be onsite to meet everyone tomorrow. That should be interesting.

 

It won't be pretty. I hope his life insurance is paid up.

[Rasvar]

Mobile hotel rooms filling up with Carnival officials, cruise crewmembers and families of people onboard per Mobile news source:

 

http://blog.al.com/live/2013/02/hoteliers_preparing_for_influx.html#incart_river_default

 

"A press release issued Wednesday afternoon by the Miami-based cruise line indicated hotel rooms for disembarking passengers have already been booked in New Orleans, however, Mobile’s hospitality industry is scurrying to accommodate concerned families driving in to meet their loved ones as well as an entourage of about 100 Carnival representatives expected to arrive Wednesday night.

 

David Randel, president and chief executive officer of the Mobile Bay Convention and Visitors Bureau, said local hoteliers have also indicated between 300 and 400 rooms have been booked for at least three nights to house disembarking Triumph crewmembers."

 

 

"Randel said he could confirm that as many as 400 Mobile hotel rooms have been booked for crew members and not passengers for at least three nights, and the Carnival team of about 100 should begin arriving within the next few hours."

 

That does make sense. I had neglected to think that the crew also needs a place to stay for a bit until the ship can be habitable for them. I'd hate to think how bad it is on the crew decks. Those things looked uncomfortable in the best of conditions.

[jwalk03]

$500 extra dollars!

 

How long till people on here start complaining that its not enough to cover their pet expenses?!?! :eek:

[ducklite]

I think they are actually being pretty fair on all of this.

 

That is $500 per passenger, not per cabin.

 

So people are getting a full refund, a free future cruise, and an additional $1000 for your trouble, plus they are covering your transportation.

 

I am looking at it as getting 3 free cruises for the cost of a few really bad days.

 

Of course my perspective could be a little off since I have an 18mo old in the house, so piles of poop and rivers of urine are normal.

 

The $500 won't even cover lost wages.

 

Do you really want to call what they've been on a "cruise?"

 

Why wouldn't they cover transportation? People would have had their own arrangements if Carnival didn't have a defective ship.

[Aquahound]

Me too. How does a tow for a ship this size work? How is he keeping it straight in the back without adding more stress to the engine of the first tug, regardless that it has power. I unfortunately had to get towed once. But I unfortunately don't own a cruise ship, lol.. they actually went from the front, and i have seen some from the side. You'd think they'd be side by side for maximum control and speed?

.

 

The aft tug is for steering. He is keeping the ship in line with the towing vessel. When the towing vessel has to slow speed, the aft tug is the ship's brakes.

 

There is plenty of power in that forward tug to tow the ship.

[ducklite]

Me too. How does a tow for a ship this size work? How is he keeping it straight in the back without adding more stress to the engine of the first tug, regardless that he has power? I unfortunately had to get towed once. But I unfortunately don't own a cruise ship, lol.. they actually went from the front, and i have seen some from the side. You'd think they'd be side by side for maximum control and speed?

 

Do wind and water conditions determine their placement? Anyone know? Dockguy is a coast guard guy right?

 

 

 

thx for posting. so, it's to accommodate for the extra days' delay in returning back to port.

 

Are they actually moving right now? I'm wondering if they aren't just waiting for the other tug and the rear tug is simply trying to provide as much stability as possible. No expert, just a thought.

[QTBabyNurse]

I think they are actually being pretty fair on all of this.

 

That is $500 per passenger, not per cabin.

 

So people are getting a full refund, a free future cruise, and an additional $1000 for your trouble, plus they are covering your transportation.

 

I am looking at it as getting 3 free cruises for the cost of a few really bad days.

 

Of course my perspective could be a little off since I have an 18mo old in the house, so piles of poop and rivers of urine are normal.

 

LMAO at your comment! Funny perspective! As a nurse, I kinda feel the same way!

[truecruiser]

I assume that means that he will be onsite to meet everyone tomorrow. That should be interesting.

 

He'd be a fool to not be. Career Suicide.

 

The aft tug is for steering. He is keeping the ship in line with the towing vessel. When the towing vessel has to slow speed, the aft tug is the ship's brakes.

There is plenty of power in that forward tug to tow the ship.

 

Ahh, ty. :)

[Tutankhamen]

"I look forward to welcoming everyone to Mobile tomorrow"

Poor poor poor choice of words. Come across almost unsympathetic if you ask me. Diminishes all they have been through.

 

 

This is something I say to friends and family coming over for dinner. Or the cruise line would write about your first day on a ship. Not something for this situation.