Children sitting at the bar

[MrPete]

If the karoake bar was listed as an adult only venue at that time then the kids should have been asked to leave. If it was listed as family venue (kids like to listen to karoake too and ships accomodate for this) then the music should be sensored for a family activity. It doesn't matter if the venue is labeled a "bar" and has a bar in it or not if it is a family venue during certain times on a ship then kids are allowed and a family friendly atmosphere should be maintained...

 

But guess what. Most so called adults, upon seeing a kid or kids, wouldn't proceed in such behavior just for their mere presence.

[SugarStar00]

Being the OP I was talking about at night, the lido deck party and the in the Atrium when the guitarist was playing. Both after dinner maybe 9 or 10?

 

 

As far as I am aware the Adults only bar closes at 530-6pm, so thats not an option unless it opens up again later, I never checked.

 

 

Well as long as I am paying for my child's fare and Carnival does not have a rule that says my DD can't be at the bar - and we get there before you; you will be standing. You don't have more rights them we do just because you are over 18.

 

If was want to sit and enjoy a drink (her a mocktail) and we paid our money for that drink then we will sit where ever we want.

 

 

Last I checked, I do have more rights than someone under 18. For starters, I can drive, vote and drink at a bar. I guess being able to sit on a barstool at the actual bar and enjoy a drink was sort of....a right of passage when turning 21. Guess its not the same everywhere. :rolleyes:

[MrPete]

Yeah, like taxes and insurance. Boooooriiing.

 

 

 

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I'm still sitting here wondering what adult conversations I've been missing out as an adult for the past 40 years.

[MrPete]

Being the OP I was talking about at night, the lido deck party and the in the Atrium when the guitarist was playing. Both after dinner maybe 9 or 10?

 

 

As far as I am aware the Adults only bar closes at 530-6pm, so thats not an option unless it opens up again later, I never checked.

 

 

 

 

 

Last I checked, I do have more rights than someone under 18. For starters, I can drive, vote and drink at a bar. I guess being able to sit on a barstool at the actual bar and enjoy a drink was sort of....a right of passage when turning 21.

 

Not at sea you can't. Your $$ carry no more weight than anyone else's, nor have any bearing on age.

[Yvonne]

If the karoake bar was listed as an adult only venue at that time then the kids should have been asked to leave. If it was listed as family venue (kids like to listen to karoake too and ships accomodate for this) then the music should be sensored for a family activity. It doesn't matter if the venue is labeled a "bar" and has a bar in it or not if it is a family venue during certain times on a ship then kids are allowed and a family friendly atmosphere should be maintained...

 

It was not listed as "family karaoke", it if was I would not complain about kids being there.

 

Those two kids were the ONLY kids there, and it was well after 9 p.m. The kids should not have been there.

[Gilgo Surfer]

I agree with this post. The bar is not for kids.

 

I also agree. Unfortunately, common sense is not all that common anymore.:rolleyes:

[Sinusoid]

Being the OP I was talking about at night, the lido deck party and the in the Atrium when the guitarist was playing. Both after dinner maybe 9 or 10?

 

 

As far as I am aware the Adults only bar closes at 530-6pm, so thats not an option unless it opens up again later, I never checked.

 

 

 

 

 

Last I checked, I do have more rights than someone under 18. For starters, I can drive, vote and drink at a bar. I guess being able to sit on a barstool at the actual bar and enjoy a drink was sort of....a right of passage when turning 21. Guess its not the same everywhere. :rolleyes:

 

The kids on a cruise ship get their drinks from the same place you get your drinks. It's probably not like that in your home town or wherever you were when you came of age. They buy a drink there, they get to sit there. First come, first served. You can either stay in the venue and stand or walk some (probably short) distance away and find another seat.

 

 

 

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[drumbeatfive]

I'm a little surprised at the responses that a child shouldn't give their seat up to an adult....they paid their $ and are entitled to the same privileges.

 

I guess I'm old because we were taught growing up to give our seat up for our olders....not because they were entitled to more than we were, but because it was the courteous and respectful thing to do.....oh well!! Times they are changing!!

[Sinusoid]

I'm a little surprised at the responses that a child shouldn't give their seat up to an adult....they paid their $ and are entitled to the same privileges.

 

I guess I'm old because we were taught growing up to give our seat up for our olders....not because they were entitled to more than we were, but because it was the courteous and respectful thing to do.....oh well!! Times they are changing!!

 

On a subway or bus, where there are limited seats and not everyone can use one? Yes. On a cruise ship, where there are a probably a dozen chairs per butt? Unnecessary.

 

ETA: If you're that dramatically old and feeble, wouldn't it be easier to just sit in your Rascal scooter instead of attempting to mount a barstool?

 

 

 

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[drumbeatfive]

On a subway or bus, where there are limited seats and not everyone can use one? Yes. On a cruise ship, where there are a probably a dozen chairs per butt? Unnecessary.

 

ETA: If you're that dramatically old and feeble, wouldn't it be easier to just sit in your Rascal scooter instead of attempting to mount a barstool?

 

 

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Was nastiness really necessary??

 

Personally, I like kids and don't mind them being anywhere they want to be....I was simply making an observation on how attitudes have changed over the years. Sorry I bothered! Carry on!

 

Happy Cruising!

 

[babyher]

Cruise or not..bar or no bar.. no child should ever be sitting while an adult stands. There are very few perks to getting old but that is one of them.

 

 

Sorry ....but no.

 

I paid for my kids to sit in that seat , and as long as they are in an area they are allowed to be sitting in (NO SIGNS POSTED SAYING THEY CAN"T BE) . They have a right to sit there.

 

My kids know to give their seat to an elderly or handicapped person. But they won't be hopping out of their chairs because an adult shows up

[MrPete]

I'm a little surprised at the responses that a child shouldn't give their seat up to an adult....they paid their $ and are entitled to the same privileges.

 

I guess I'm old because we were taught growing up to give our seat up for our olders....not because they were entitled to more than we were, but because it was the courteous and respectful thing to do.....oh well!! Times they are changing!!

 

First, you are under the gross assumption that these are the only seats available.

 

And I too was taught at an early age to give up my seat to adults. And when I got older, I asked why? And no one could give me an answer. Just another stupid rule made up by adults. Same as kids should be seen and not heard, and don't swim for an hour after eating.

 

Now, if it were someone feeble, AT ANY AGE, I bet most all OF EVERY AGE would give up their seat.

 

Yet never in a bar.

[MrPete]

I agree with this post. The bar is not for kids.

 

And why is that?

[jimdalva]

My Two Cents, Children can get their drinks at the bar because that's where the drinks are. I have been known to help a child squeeze in and even give them my seat(because they are little and cant see over the bar) and get the bar tenders attention, while we suspend the Adult conversation for 3 to 5 min. and maybe make a joke with the child- then off they go drink in hand. I have no problem with kids running and laughing and playing near by as long as they are not paying attention to our Adult conversation. (that does not mean cursing but rather the topic). I do not feel comfortable with some topics around small kids. If they look over 18 Im ok with that but their parents might not be, given the current topic.

As a child my parents taught me to give up my seat to - and give respect to the elderly, that seems to be a thing of the past for some.

[mntbikejack]

Because children are not allowed to sit at bars where I come from I thought it was inappropriate at first on the ship. I then realized that the children have to go to the bars for their drinks also. So why can't they sit there? The same laws do not apply on the ship as your place of residence.

[Warm Breezes]

Being the OP I was talking about at night, the lido deck party and the in the Atrium when the guitarist was playing. Both after dinner maybe 9 or 10?

 

 

As far as I am aware the Adults only bar closes at 530-6pm, so thats not an option unless it opens up again later, I never checked.

 

 

 

 

 

Last I checked, I do have more rights than someone under 18. For starters, I can drive, vote and drink at a bar. I guess being able to sit on a barstool at the actual bar and enjoy a drink was sort of....a right of passage when turning 21. Guess its not the same everywhere. :rolleyes:

 

The only right you have on a cruiseship over someone younger than 18, is the right to order alcohol in your drink and go into adult areas during adult only times. Those under 18 have the right to go in the kids clubs where you can't. Those are the only seperate rights. A bar in the common areas of the cruise ship are basically drink stations. The only places where both alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks can be purchased on the ship. It is not your neighborhood where the people with kids can head to McDonalds while you are sitting at your neighborhood bar.

[MrPete]

Because children are not allowed to sit at bars where I come from I thought it was inappropriate at first on the ship. I then realized that the children have to go to the bars for their drinks also. So why can't they sit there? The same laws do not apply on the ship as your place of residence.

 

Depends from where one hails.

 

Public houses, or pubs, are quite frequently guested by all ages, as it serves as the towns living room, as well as getting good food.

 

Maybe some are thinking of transgendered biker bars.

[che5904]

Rather interesting thread really.

 

OK let me get the gist of this whole thread.

 

Interesting to read that foul language, "adult" conversations (whatever that is), drunkin behaviour, unsuitable for small ears jokes, in a public place that is open to everyone are considered by most to be "appropriate" behaviour in public. But children running around doing what children do best in a open to all passengers place is considered "inappropriate" behaviour?

 

Adults sitting at a counter (bar) that serves beverages to all ages, is considered "appropriate" but children sitting there is considered "inappropriate"?

 

And that apparenly these children should be somehow banished after a set time, because apparently a "set time" is considered the adult hours?

[Warm Breezes]

It was not listed as "family karaoke", it if was I would not complain about kids being there.

 

Those two kids were the ONLY kids there, and it was well after 9 p.m. The kids should not have been there.

 

If it was "adult only" then the kids should have been asked to leave by the staff. Usually things are listed as "adult only" if kids are not allowed. You usually don't see it listed as "family karaoke" if they are. Most of the time I don't things listed as "adult only" until after 11 pm (unless it is the casino or serenity). 9 pm is not a magical bedtime on a ship...kids are still going strong with their family then. They are, after all, on vacation and its not a school night...

[SugarStar00]

The only right you have on a cruiseship over someone younger than 18, is the right to order alcohol in your drink and go into adult areas during adult only times. Those under 18 have the right to go in the kids clubs where you can't. Those are the only seperate rights. A bar in the common areas of the cruise ship are basically drink stations. The only places where both alcoholic and non-alcoholic drinks can be purchased on the ship. It is not your neighborhood where the people with kids can head to McDonalds while you are sitting at your neighborhood bar.

 

Drink stations. Well said. I see this side of the argument.

[MrPete]

Drink stations. Well said. I see this side of the argument.

 

And yet, right there in post number 2. And even 3!

[SugarStar00]

And yet, right there in post number 2. And even 3!

 

And you'll see in post #4 I saw the point of the soda, but still was seeing it as a "bar". The term "drink station"changes the connotation of the word, they should call them drink stations on the ship and maybe people like me would be quicker to accept the kids sitting there.

 

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong I started this post to get options of others so maybe I could/should look at things in a different way, that post helped.

[MrPete]

And you'll see in post #4 I saw the point of the soda, but still was seeing it as a "bar". The term "drink station"changes the connotation of the word, they should call them drink stations on the ship and maybe people like me would be quicker to accept the kids sitting there.

 

I'm not saying I'm right or wrong I started this post to get options of others so maybe I could/should look at things in a different way, that post helped.

 

Would you hang out in a drink station? Could others have their adult conversation whatever that is at a drink station?

 

Sorry, but nomenclature doesn't change a thing. What about those that don't even speak English?

 

Yet I still get confused at Outback when I need to use the facilities. Go figure.

[che5904]

And you'll see in post #4 I saw the point of the soda, but still was seeing it as a "bar". The term "drink station"changes the connotation of the word, they should call them drink stations on the ship and maybe people like me would be quicker to accept the kids sitting there.

 

Definition of a "bar": "a counter or place where beverages, or light foods are served to customers: a coffee bar, a wine bar, juice bar or a bar that serves liquor. Therefore, the ship is using the correct terminology, I guess it's some of the patrons that don't get it.

[babyher]

I don't hang out in a lot of clubs anymore .

 

Occasionally I will go have a drink at small corner joints where everyone knows everyone. (Ok these also happen to be big Cop and Firefighter hangouts so they may not be the examples*LOL*)

 

 

The topics get pretty "adult" and the language gets pretty rough. When everyone knows everyone you don't have to watch your mouth the way you do when you are in public among strangers

 

I would not have wanted my kids around there when they were little.

 

In a lounge on a cruise ship full of strangers . I certainly would not have the same type of conversation I would have in the neighborhood joint with guys and gals I have worked with for 30 years .