Yari mommy of 2 Posted December 21, 2013 #1 Share Posted December 21, 2013 So here is my dilemma. I have booked my cruise since Feb 2013 and in November 2013 i decided to take my nannys kids with me. They are 20 and 14. But i told them in advance about the passport since they have never been on vacation they have never had a passport. Their mom is not legal in this country and has no ID to get a State Id but i never knew they would have a problem since she has lived in this country for over 30 years. Not going to get into that so please don't question that. So I called carnival and they said it wouldn't be a problem. Only of there was an emergency outside the US. So they said they could travel without a passport. I'm just worried. Has anyone traveled without passport. I have signed and notorized letter that i can take the 14 year old with us. My kids 6 months and 4 years old have their passports so do my husband and I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerCruiser Posted December 21, 2013 #2 Share Posted December 21, 2013 generally speaking it is fine to cruise with birth certificate and for those over 16 a valid state issued ID. But I would be sure with the cruise line as well as maybe the state department. They are who sets the regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradUT Posted December 21, 2013 #3 Share Posted December 21, 2013 If the nanny's kids are 20 and 14 and she has lived in the U.S. for 30 years, I am going to assume that the kids were born in the U.S. and are, therefore, U.S. citizens. As U.S. citizens, the legal status of their mother is not a factor in this case. As U.S. citizens, they would each have a U.S. birth certificate. Also, the 20 year old probably has a driver's license, so she's got a government ID. (If she doesn't have a driver's license, she can get a non-driver's ID from the state DMV office.) The 14-year-old does not need a government ID. Also, the nanny's legal status has no effect on her right/ability to get a notarized statement authorizing you to take her minor child on the cruise. (The statement should also authorize you to make medical decisions.) So, I see no problem with any of the required documentation here. Yes, there will be a problem IF there is an emergency outside of the U.S. and the kids are traveling without passports, but, realistically, the chances of that happening for two young people who will be supervised by you are slim and none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare sparks1093 Posted December 21, 2013 #4 Share Posted December 21, 2013 generally speaking it is fine to cruise with birth certificate and for those over 16 a valid state issued ID. But I would be sure with the cruise line as well as maybe the state department. They are who sets the regulations. Actually DHS was given primary responsibility to write the regulations in consultation with State and DHS has the responsibility of enforcing the regulations. If the nanny's kids are 20 and 14 and she has lived in the U.S. for 30 years, I am going to assume that the kids were born in the U.S. and are, therefore, U.S. citizens. As U.S. citizens, the legal status of their mother is not a factor in this case. As U.S. citizens, they would each have a U.S. birth certificate. Also, the 20 year old probably has a driver's license, so she's got a government ID. (If she doesn't have a driver's license, she can get a non-driver's ID from the state DMV office.) The 14-year-old does not need a government ID. Also, the nanny's legal status has no effect on her right/ability to get a notarized statement authorizing you to take her minor child on the cruise. (The statement should also authorize you to make medical decisions.) So, I see no problem with any of the required documentation here. Yes, there will be a problem IF there is an emergency outside of the U.S. and the kids are traveling without passports, but, realistically, the chances of that happening for two young people who will be supervised by you are slim and none. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yari mommy of 2 Posted December 21, 2013 Author #5 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Thanks so much. Yes they were born here. They both have ID'S. So thanks so much Yes I called carnival and they said its fine. But just wanted to make sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elaine5715 Posted December 21, 2013 #6 Share Posted December 21, 2013 http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/risks-hiring-undocumented-nanny.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerCruiser Posted December 22, 2013 #7 Share Posted December 22, 2013 I would still have a signed notarized letter from the mom though for the minor just in case you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agc291 Posted December 22, 2013 #8 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Our 4th cruise is coming up and my BF just got his passport... cruising without one is easy. Just make sure you have everything you need :) Dont stress it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkIVette Posted December 22, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 22, 2013 http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/risks-hiring-undocumented-nanny.html Just couldn't resist, could you?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havingfun2010 Posted December 22, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Did you post you hired an illegal nanny? Just saying you might want to delete the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poison7fl Posted December 22, 2013 #11 Share Posted December 22, 2013 Did you post you hired an illegal nanny? Just saying you might want to delete the post Yep, not the smartest thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13607 Posted December 23, 2013 #12 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Thanks so much. Yes they were born here. They both have ID'S. So thanks so muchYes I called carnival and they said its fine. But just wanted to make sure. Legal or not, I hope you are submitting social security payments for her, otherwise your cruise fund will go to pay the penalties which are quite stiff. We have friends that are still paying the fines and back social security for an illegal nanny. It is wide spread in Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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