New Smoking Rules In Effect

[Salacia]

The following was copied from https://ask.cunard.com/help/cunard/fleet/posmoking1

 

 

Where can I smoke on board?

 

There are dedicated areas on each ship where you are permitted to smoke*. Smoking is not permitted in any public room (with the exception of Churchill’s Cigar Lounge, which is reserved for cigar and pipe smokers only), inside your cabin or on your cabin balcony

*Due to weather and/or cleaning process, these locations may change from time to time.

Designated Smoking Areas

 

Queen Victoria:

• Open deck on the starboard side of the promenade deck (deck 3)
  
• Open deck on the forward and aft areas of Deck 10
  

Queen Mary 2:

• Open deck on the aft of Deck 7
  
• Open deck on the starboard aft side of Deck 8
  
• Inside of G32 on the port side upper level from 6pm each evening or when the weather is inclement
  

Queen Elizabeth:

• Open deck on the starboard side of Deck 10 aft of Churchill’s Cigar Lounge
  
• Open deck on the starboard side of the promenade deck (deck 3)
  

[ToadOfToadHall]

As a non-smoker (not a reformed smoker, I've never smoked) I think it's all going a bit too far really.

[jomf]

As a non smoker, married to an ex smoker I love the fact that you cannot smoke on the balcony!

We like to sit on our balcony and don't wish to smell others smoke.

 

That is one of the main criteria in choosing a cruise line!

[cunardaddict]

Banning smoking on balconies is rather to improve security than to improve our comfort.

 

I wonder why they allocate a fixed side of a deck rather than allocating the lee side - wich ever it may be.

[Salacia]

When the open decks are closed due to inclement weather, passengers will not be able to smoke (except on QM2 when G32 is open).

 

To have a smoke, passengers will have find their way to the designated area of the open deck at all hours of the day and night, brave the wind and weather on the deck (provided it is not closed), and make the trek back. This will be especially hard on women and passengers with mobility issues.

 

An interior venue with proper ventilation where smoking cigarettes is permitted (like Churchill's which is for pipe and cigar smokers) would seem most equitable, in my opinion.

Edited May 16, 2014 by Salacia

[cunardaddict]

Why hard for women?

 

You may be right with your position. But I suppose that if Cunard provides a 24h dedicated smoking area someone will sue them for causing his cancer by not hindering him/her from smoking. Strange US court decisions take their toll now in international business.

 

I myself do not support smokers. If they put smoking first they may well stay where they are.

[sarafinadh]

When the open decks are closed due to inclement weather, passengers will not be able to smoke (except on QM2 when G32 is open).

 

To have a smoke, passengers will have find their way to the designated area of the open deck at all hours of the day and night, brave the wind and weather on the deck (provided it is not closed), and make the trek back. This will be especially hard on women and passengers with mobility issues.

 

An interior venue with proper ventilation where smoking cigarettes is permitted (like Churchill's which is for pipe and cigar smokers) would seem most equitable, in my opinion.

 

Yes. Excellent idea.

 

I find particularly ridiculous the banning of ecigs from Churchills. Their argument against cigarettes is that they will 'taint' the delicate aromas produced by the cigars. The ecigs have virtually not smell to speak of.

 

And while I understand many feel so strongly that even smoking in outdoor open venues disturbs them, I find that they are a bit too nice in their objections.

 

One would think that with the whole Atlantic to ventilate into a cigarette smoked on a balcony would not put a serious dent in anyone's enjoyment of their own balcony.

 

I am a life long non smoker and abhor the habit but the current vengeful attitude many take against the smokers themselves these days is just unpleasantly militant.

 

Hate the habit not the addict. They don't like having to be the smoker anymore than we like having to smell the smoke. A bit of consideration could run both ways here to good purpose. In the same way I remember in my youth being responded to rudely when I asked smokers at the table next to me in a restaurant to not smoke, I have seen non smokers confront smokers in open parks to chastise them, in a very rude entitled way, for smoking in an out door public space.

 

Ah well the nature of this subject is that it will always be polemic I suppose.

[Salacia]

Why hard for women?...

 

 

As a woman, I can tell you that standing on the open deck will more often that not destroy any hair-do. Dampness does nothing good for a beautiful cocktail dress or gown, not to mention what it does to a well ironed linen or cotton garment. While security on board Cunard ships is excellent, in general, women are well advised to have concerns about walking around any cruise ship alone late at night.

[pmb1]

... I find particularly ridiculous the banning of ecigs from Churchills. Their argument against cigarettes is that they will 'taint' the delicate aromas produced by the cigars. The ecigs have virtually not smell to speak of. ...

No, their argument is that cigarette smokers will fill Churchill's to the exclusion of cigar smokers. And that did happen at least once before the present ban has announced.

... One would think that with the whole Atlantic to ventilate into a cigarette smoked on a balcony would not put a serious dent in anyone's enjoyment of their own balcony. ...

You're right, Sara, but logic is wasted on the anti-smoking fanatics. My wife smokes, I don't (I quit a generation ago). What QM2 needs is a mid-ship cigarette lounge; cigars and pipes forbidden, of course, but not non-smoking companions.

 

Paul

 

P.S. My first try at this post used the word that starts "na" and ends "zi" instead of the word "fanatic"; those four letters were replaced by "****" when I previewed my post. I guess I'm OK with that, barely.

[zider]

I believe that rules have been written with the Q,M,2. In mind as the Q.V. & the Q.E. Does not have any nominated inside place for Cigarette smokers, The Q.M.2 Does have G32. I find paragraph 1 of the rules interesting.

 

Where can I smoke on board?

 

There are dedicated areas on each ship where you are permitted to smoke*. Smoking is not permitted in any public room (with the exception of Churchill’s Cigar Lounge, which is reserved for cigar and pipe smokers only), inside your cabin or on your cabin balcony

*Due to weather and/or cleaning process, these locations may change from time to time

[bkecky]

Wasn't it always supposed to be just cigars in Churchill's but it was never enforced?

 

I kind of understand not allowing e-cigs in Churchill's due to the severe lack of space. But why can't we smoke them in public areas? I was really hoping to use my e-cig on my upcoming cruise but I don't want to keep trekking to my cabin. Especially as I don't smoke them for a period of time equal to a full cigarette.

 

The only reason I can possibly think of is that they may be mistaken for real cigarettes and therefore they may get complaints. I understand that some people may mistake the orange light and water vapour for a cigarette but the ones with the blue lights? I can't imagine anyone mistaking those for real smoking! Or perhaps I have the whole reason for not allowing them completely wrong! Just seems it's all gone a bit OTT.

[transatlantic fan]

Wasn't it always supposed to be just cigars in Churchill's but it was never enforced?

 

I kind of understand not allowing e-cigs in Churchill's due to the severe lack of space. But why can't we smoke them in public areas? I was really hoping to use my e-cig on my upcoming cruise but I don't want to keep trekking to my cabin. Especially as I don't smoke them for a period of time equal to a full cigarette.

 

The only reason I can possibly think of is that they may be mistaken for real cigarettes and therefore they may get complaints. I understand that some people may mistake the orange light and water vapour for a cigarette but the ones with the blue lights? I can't imagine anyone mistaking those for real smoking! Or perhaps I have the whole reason for not allowing them completely wrong! Just seems it's all gone a bit OTT.

 

Yes I have to say the world seems to be going backwards, I understand a ban on smoking but feel sorry for those who have given up or are trying to give up and use an E-Cigg.

As you say its not hard to see a Black one with a blue light is not a real one, if they didn't have the word cigarette they would be allowed.

Things have happened over the last year that I never thought I would see in my life time and don't agree with but I have no say in it.

I say to you just be discrete use it when you want.

[newjoisey]

a triv question...what year were the ash trays removed from the railing on deck 7 on the qm2 ?

[rgaudet]

Just got off qm2 yesterday and the only thing I would say is that it is a big improvement to not have smoking in the casino, it was allowed my last time on onboard. There was no smoke smell when I entered the ship and generally no smoke smell except for outside cabins where people were clearly smoking.

 

 

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[sarafinadh]

But why can't we smoke them in public areas?

 

The only reason I can possibly think of is that they may be mistaken for real cigarettes and therefore they may get complaints.

 

Ecigs are being banned/restricted all over because The big tobacco and pharam companies are pouring HUGE amounts of lobby funding into stopping the use of a product that cuts into their bottom line.

 

Politics, it's all politics...

Edited May 17, 2014 by sarafinadh

[zider]

Just got off qm2 yesterday and the only thing I would say is that it is a big improvement to not have smoking in the casino, it was allowed my last time on onboard. There was no smoke smell when I entered the ship and generally no smoke smell except for outside cabins where people were clearly smoking.

 

 

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Smoking in the Casino was stopped 3 !!years ago.

[Underwatr]

Almost 4 years. It had been stopped when we first took QM2 to Quebec in 2010 but there was still a residual odor in the casino carpets that you could smell as you walked past the Golden Lion.

[rgaudet]

Smoking in the Casino was stopped 3 !!years ago.

 

 

Well you certainly are an intelligent being. Not sure why you have to jump on posts here. (I had to check but it was indeed you that jumped the poor personable started a thread about the qe single cabins but you had to let everyone know that you posted it 7.5 hours ago). Yes you are smart and fast. But you don't need to try to make others look foolish.

 

Sorry for the rant.

 

 

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[Salacia]

Well you certainly are an intelligent being. Not sure why you have to jump on posts here. (I had to check but it was indeed you that jumped the poor personable started a thread about the qe single cabins but you had to let everyone know that you posted it 7.5 hours ago). Yes you are smart and fast. But you don't need to try to make others look foolish.

Sorry for the rant.

 

 

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I know what you mean - I don't need anyone to make me look foolish, I can do that all by myself :D

 

But seriously, I was trying to remember when the smoking rules started to change on board QM2...I think it started with no smoking in the cabins. I remember being on board when that happened, and a couple of passengers were totally taken by surprise (they weren't Cruise Critic members and there was no mention of the new rules in any communication they received from Cunard - they only found out after reading the ship's news letter.) But maybe I have the sequence wrong..limited smoking in the Golden Lion, then no smoking there. Limited smoking in the Casino, then no smoking. Cabin yes, cabin no. Balcony yes, balcony no.

 

Anyway, I don't think any offense was intended in that previous post...we're just Cunarders (or in my case, a Cunard Nerd):) Cheers, -S

Edited May 18, 2014 by Salacia

[bkecky]

Yes I have to say the world seems to be going backwards, I understand a ban on smoking but feel sorry for those who have given up or are trying to give up and use an E-Cigg.

As you say its not hard to see a Black one with a blue light is not a real one, if they didn't have the word cigarette they would be allowed.

Things have happened over the last year that I never thought I would see in my life time and don't agree with but I have no say in it.

I say to you just be discrete use it when you want.

 

Yes, it is annoying. Although I did see a a lady on a cruise last year smoking one at the bar in Hemispheres on the QV and no one said anything. I believe this ban was in place then but it seemed no one minded. Will have to seek out some hiding places! No way I am going on deck to smoke an e-cig in the Baltics!

 

Salacia - I believe you have the sequence correct. Although I used to take full advantage of any smoking area, I do understand why they banned it in these areas. I didn't like it much as it was an inconvenience but was at least happy that I did have Churchill's, which was often the liveliest place on the ship! But it seems extremely unfair if they are really restricting cigarettes in Churchill's. It seems if the decks are closed off due to bad weather and you are on any ship other than the QM2, then you either risk it and go outside or abstain. And I have seen people risk it before... I'd personally be too worried I wouldn't get back in!

[zider]

Well you certainly are an intelligent being. Not sure why you have to jump on posts here. (I had to check but it was indeed you that jumped the poor personable started a thread about the qe single cabins but you had to let everyone know that you posted it 7.5 hours ago). Yes you are smart and fast. But you don't need to try to make others look foolish.

 

Sorry for the rant.

 

 

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If anyone makes a post then they must make every effort to ensure that what they write is as accurate as possible, You have made a statement that is inaccurate therefore wrong & misleading to others.

[Victoria2]

If anyone makes a post then they must make every effort to ensure that what they write is as accurate as possible, You have made a statement that is inaccurate therefore wrong & misleading to others.

 

If you pick up on other posts, it makes life difficult when you just might [me definitely] inadvertently make a mistake yourself.

I seem to remember you gave different information about the number of bottles of wine/spirits given in QG suites on a short hop.

 

We never did get a definitive answer did we. :)

[rgaudet]

If anyone makes a post then they must make every effort to ensure that what they write is as accurate as possible, You have made a statement that is inaccurate therefore wrong & misleading to others.

 

 

I must make every effort ? What is with the police mentality? I stated an opinion.

 

Sure glad you weren't at my dining table Jumping on every opinion I made that was first fact checked !

 

 

 

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[zider]

If you pick up on other posts, it makes life difficult when you just might [me definitely] inadvertently make a mistake yourself.

I seem to remember you gave different information about the number of bottles of wine/spirits given in QG suites on a short hop.

 

We never did get a definitive answer did we. :)

That is what I received & that is what I stated it will be interesting to see what the Original poster gets on there short cruise, Then we will know who was correct & who was not.

[jomf]

Yes. Excellent idea.

 

I find particularly ridiculous the banning of ecigs from Churchills. Their argument against cigarettes is that they will 'taint' the delicate aromas produced by the cigars. The ecigs have virtually not smell to speak of.

 

And while I understand many feel so strongly that even smoking in outdoor open venues disturbs them, I find that they are a bit too nice in their objections.

 

One would think that with the whole Atlantic to ventilate into a cigarette smoked on a balcony would not put a serious dent in anyone's enjoyment of their own balcony.

 

I am a life long non smoker and abhor the habit but the current vengeful attitude many take against the smokers themselves these days is just unpleasantly militant.

 

Hate the habit not the addict. They don't like having to be the smoker anymore than we like having to smell the smoke. A bit of consideration could run both ways here to good purpose. In the same way I remember in my youth being responded to rudely when I asked smokers at the table next to me in a restaurant to not smoke, I have seen non smokers confront smokers in open parks to chastise them, in a very rude entitled way, for smoking in an out door public space.

 

Ah well the nature of this subject is that it will always be polemic I suppose.

 

We have twice had people smoking on the balcony next door to us. Both times left us unable to use the balcony or even open our balcony doors. The smell was so bad, the smoke was blown onto the balcony and into our cabin.

So yes, it did put a serious dent in our enjoyment!

Edited May 20, 2014 by jomf