thecruiserofships Posted July 6, 2014 #1 Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) This newspaper article talks a lot about the port's relationship with Carnival and a new contract that was going to be discussed on last Thursday's port board meeting. The article is very interesting and worth reading, especially if you care about cruising from NOLA. http://neworleanscitybusiness.com/blog/2014/06/25/port-close-to-5-year-extension-with-carnival-cruise-lines/ Here is the part about the Elation:The new Carnival contract, which could be altered in the next week, would allow Carnival to increase its presence in New Orleans, LaGrange said. Robert Jumonville, director of cruise operations at the port, is in discussions with Carnival to replace the Elation with the Freedom, which carries about 800 more passengers, he said during Monday’s committee meeting. The port is also in talks with the company to add a third ship. “We’ve been driving Carnival really hard to bring in a third ship,” LaGrange said. Here is what I am wondering now: - Will the Elation get replaced? - Why the Freedom? It is getting repositioned to Galveston as their third ship? Edited July 6, 2014 by thecruiserofships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christmas Posted July 6, 2014 #2 Share Posted July 6, 2014 This newspaper article talks a lot about the port's relationship with Carnival and a new contract that was going to be discussed on last Thursday's port board meeting. The article is very interesting and worth reading, especially if you care about cruising from NOLA. http://neworleanscitybusiness.com/blog/2014/06/25/port-close-to-5-year-extension-with-carnival-cruise-lines/ Here is the part about the Elation:The new Carnival contract, which could be altered in the next week, would allow Carnival to increase its presence in New Orleans, LaGrange said. Robert Jumonville, director of cruise operations at the port, is in discussions with Carnival to replace the Elation with the Freedom, which carries about 800 more passengers, he said during Monday’s committee meeting. The port is also in talks with the company to add a third ship. “We’ve been driving Carnival really hard to bring in a third ship,” LaGrange said. Here is what I am wondering now: - Will the Elation get replaced? - Why the Freedom? It is getting repositioned to Galveston as their third ship? I don't see it being Freedom since she is heading to Galveston next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecruiserofships Posted July 6, 2014 Author #3 Share Posted July 6, 2014 I don't see it being Freedom since she is heading to Galveston next year. I wouldn't think so either, but I am just quoting the article. Maybe they mean a Conquest Class sized vessel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricket551 Posted July 6, 2014 #4 Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) So if it does get replaced what happens to people that have a trip already booked on the Elation? We have one planned for April 2015. Do we just get switched to the new ship in a similar room. Or do they just cancel us? Would our fair stay the same and the interary :confused Edited July 6, 2014 by Cricket551 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Packed Posted July 6, 2014 #5 Share Posted July 6, 2014 So if it does get replaced what happens to people that have a trip already booked on the Elation? We have one planned for April 2015. Do we just get switched to the new ship in a similar room. Or do they just cancel us? Would our fair stay the same and the interary :confused This happened on our cruise we had booked for the Conquest for March of next year. They just switched us to what they considered a comparable cabin and our rate didn't change. However, I was not happy as I wanted the Conquest not the Splendor ship. So I canceled (with no penalty). We had only paid deposits at that point. They supposedly sent out an email explaining all of this but I had never received it. I contacted CCL as soon as I noticed my cabin had changed and my ship had changed in my cruise manager. They verified that in fact they did not send me an email, even though they had all of my email addresses (work & home) and my cell & home # as well. They were very nice and apologetic about it however. I actually received a $50 OBC for my troubles....btw, I did not request at all. I was just upset that my ship was changed and I had zero notification. They realized their mistake and IMO "fixed" it more than I had expected. The $50 OBC was added to my already booked cruise for the November. So kudos to CCL customer service for making it more than right! IMO anyways! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almost Packed Posted July 6, 2014 #6 Share Posted July 6, 2014 (edited) Also.... I would looooovvvveee to see another ship cruise out of New Orleans. That would be great! I'd love to see the Elation go as it's my least favorite ship of all. Edited July 6, 2014 by Almost Packed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecruiserofships Posted July 7, 2014 Author #7 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Also.... I would looooovvvveee to see another ship cruise out of New Orleans. That would be great! I'd love to see the Elation go as it's my least favorite ship of all. I enjoyed the Elation, but it would be great for a change also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hattack Posted July 7, 2014 #8 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I would be very happy to have the Freedom sail out of my home City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winddawn Posted July 7, 2014 #9 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Elation is scheduled to go into dry dock September 25th thru October 9th. I wonder if that will be impacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy.capitan Posted July 7, 2014 #10 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Love Elation, especially since the ship will be having a dry dock and likely new features added in a couple of months or so. Yes, Freedom is doing a reposition to Galveston, but could easily be switched to New Orleans. Magic is scheduled for a lengthy dry dock next year which could be reduced or eliminated. In any event, once Magic complete dry dock, Freedom might be available to move after that. It doesn't look like there will be a third ship in New Orleans for some time. They might do better to lure Princess or HAL. HAL did use to cruise from the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecruiserofships Posted July 7, 2014 Author #11 Share Posted July 7, 2014 (edited) For now, based on the article, we need to remember that nothing is finalized or changed. There were a lot of interesting comments made by port officials and I really wonder why the particular port official used the Carnival Freedom as what they are wanting instead of just saying a larger ship. Since port schedules are worked out long in advance could this mean something? This could simply mean that after April 2015 a new ship would come and the Elation would leave. Or maybe the Elation will stay longer and get changed out later in the year. This contract deal could also fall through and nothing will come of this. I am waiting for the June 2014 board minutes from the Port of New Orleans website to come out to see what the board approved or did not approve. I'm ready for more news and 2016-2017 itineraries to get released! However, Carnival is pretty slow about releasing itineraries and it probably won't be until next Spring before they come out. Edited July 7, 2014 by thecruiserofships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbgd Posted July 7, 2014 #12 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Isnt the Elation due to rotate to a new port anyways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mzloolue Posted July 7, 2014 #13 Share Posted July 7, 2014 We have enjoyed the Elation. She seems to have followed us around. Six cruises on Elation in all. I have been hoping for Triumph to come back, but a Conquest class ship would be way cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kybluecruiser Posted July 7, 2014 #14 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I am still believe that a major renovations are coming to the Elation. She and the paradise are the only two fantasy class ships not to recieve evoulutions of fun and stateroom uogrades. (Just think big corner box). These two ships were also the only two fantasy class the was on the orginal list to recieve 2.0 upgrades. So if they upgrade her i could see her as a viable option for Galveston to be swapped with the freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CruisingwithAutism Posted July 7, 2014 #15 Share Posted July 7, 2014 That would be fantastic! Fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldone60 Posted July 7, 2014 #16 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Isnt the Elation due to rotate to a new port anyways? Wish they would send it back to San Diego and do the 4,5 & 7 day cruises again. We really loved the ship and the 4-5 day cruises to Cabo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olcar Posted July 7, 2014 #17 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Wondering if they will add a third ship when the Poland terminal gets built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fla Senior Posted July 7, 2014 #18 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I would rather see 8 - 10 day cruises out of NO. You can add as many ships as you want, but they will all still be going to the same crappy ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NolaZach Posted July 7, 2014 #19 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Wondering if they will add a third ship when the Poland terminal gets built. I thought the Poland Terminals would allow Carnival to basically have the Erato and Julia terminals. I thought Disney or Princess was the goal of the Poland terminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olcar Posted July 7, 2014 #20 Share Posted July 7, 2014 I thought the Poland Terminals would allow Carnival to basically have the Erato and Julia terminals. I thought Disney or Princess was the goal of the Poland terminals. Maybe true. Guess until then, carnival at Erato and all other lines at Julia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkcor Posted July 7, 2014 #21 Share Posted July 7, 2014 they won't take a 3rd ship to galveston to put a 3rd ship in NO. they get higher fares from galveston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy.capitan Posted July 7, 2014 #22 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Higher fares don't tell the whole story. Tax breaks and other incentives can more than offset. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkcor Posted July 7, 2014 #23 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Higher fares don't tell the whole story. Tax breaks and other incentives can more than offset. . granted. but i'd think they also wouldn't publicize and open bookings for that third ship to galveston, to just move it to N.O. within the course of a few months without compelling reasons, which are not currently apparent. galveston is a stronger market than N.O., so much so they put magic there initially, and replaced the fantasy class Ecstasy with triumph for the short runs, and then added a third ship. i'm just saying this isn't likely. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
live2cruise2011 Posted July 7, 2014 #24 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Yes Galveston is a good market but I would think that New Orleans would be as well since you can make it a vacation before the vacation and the trip down the Mississippi is said to be one of a kind. Of course I am just speculating since we do our first Nola in just under 50 days but we are looking so forward to it. since we have only cruised from Galveston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkcor Posted July 7, 2014 #25 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Yes Galveston is a good market but I would think that New Orleans would be as well since you can make it a vacation before the vacation and the trip down the Mississippi is said to be one of a kind. Of course I am just speculating since we do our first Nola in just under 50 days but we are looking so forward to it. since we have only cruised from Galveston. galveston has a higher 'drive-to' market segment, in terms of metro populations within driving distance. since they can negate the airfare, hotel and other costs, they can and do pay a premium vs. 'destination' cities / ports, N.O. included. galveston has been, for that reason, one of the highest cost / day ports to sail out of for a while. supply and demand. they've augmented supply, because the demand has been so strong (and been maintained). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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