p010ne Posted August 27, 2005 #1 Share Posted August 27, 2005 :eek: A fellow traveler on our recent Navigator cruise said that he learned that Carlson Hotels (which includes Radisson) has joined with the prestigious Regent International Hotels and will soon rebrand Radisson SSC as something like Regent SSC?:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHcruisers Posted August 27, 2005 #2 Share Posted August 27, 2005 Carlson Companies, one of the largest privately held companies in the US with revenues of 8 billion plus per annum, owns RSSC. Yes, the plans were to rename Radisson Seven Seas Cruises to Regent Seven Seas Cruises late last fall but for some reason, the name change was put on hold. I believe it is still their intent to change the name to Regent Seven Seas Cruises but when this will take effect, I don't know. Their web site is http://www.carlson.com Regards, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseluv Posted August 27, 2005 #3 Share Posted August 27, 2005 I wish they would reconsider. The Regent name conjures memories of a cruise line that folded a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda CruiseDiva Posted August 27, 2005 #4 Share Posted August 27, 2005 The rebranding to the more upmarket "Regent" name has been under consideration for some time. I was told last week during our Navigator cruise to Bermuda that it is upcoming... my source either wasn't sure of the date or wasn't at liberty to share it, though. Will just have to wait for the announcement. I agree that the name does conjur up (mostly negative) images of the late Regency Cruises :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richnot Posted August 28, 2005 #5 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Mark Conroy was quoted in a travel publication last week that the name change and rebranding would take place in the fourth quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwelsh Posted August 28, 2005 #6 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Regent Cruises, of latter years, was not in any sense an upscale line. On the contrary very, very poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDRMYS Posted August 29, 2005 #7 Share Posted August 29, 2005 IMHO, Regent Seven Seas Cruises is a much better name than Radisson Seven Seas Cruises and does not bring to mind the late Regency Cruises. The Radisson name is a detriment to an upscale cruise line and kept us away for a number of years. Radisson hotels are, for the most part, not deluxe hotels and are places that we would rather not stay at. Because of the Radisson name, it took a lot of convincing to get us to try RSSC the first time. We did not expect that it would compare at all to the deluxe ships (such as Seabourn) that we liked. Boy, were we pleasantly surprised! Regent Hotels, however, is an upscale brand that brings to mind gracious living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esther e Posted August 29, 2005 #8 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Carlson also owns Carlson Wagonlit travel agencies. Esther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseyguy Posted August 29, 2005 #9 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Carlson also owns TGI Friday's. How about "Friday's Cruises?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedC Posted August 29, 2005 #10 Share Posted August 29, 2005 IMHO, Regent Seven Seas Cruises is a much better name than Radisson Seven Seas Cruises and does not bring to mind the late Regency Cruises. The Radisson name is a detriment to an upscale cruise line and kept us away for a number of years. Radisson hotels are, for the most part, not deluxe hotels and are places that we would rather not stay at. Because of the Radisson name, it took a lot of convincing... (Partial QUOTE] "What's in a name ...a rose by any other name would smell as sweet..." WS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller333 Posted August 29, 2005 #11 Share Posted August 29, 2005 Funny, I went through the same thing. One of the worst hotels I've ever stayed in was a Radisson Hotel @ JFK airport and after that horrendous experience it took me awhile to be convinced that Radisson Cruises could possibly be upscale. (glad I finally caved in!) I'm not crazy about the Regent name either. I think they could have changed to something better or just left it alone at Seven Seas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvsteve1 Posted December 3, 2005 #12 Share Posted December 3, 2005 A cruiser on Luxury Cruise Talk is on the Mariner in the far east and RSSC honchos are on board telling of plans for the name change this year. All three ships will undergo upgrades to make them even more luxurious,in line with the Regent brand. If you look back to an interview with the head of Regent Hotels in the far east,the name change is to benefit the hotels more than the cruise line. Regent has been losing hotels and on a downslide until Carlson has decided to rebuild the brand and open new hotels. Having a luxury cruise line with the brand is meant to increase visibility of the Regent name. I agree that Radisson is not the greatest hotel brand around as the company has been unable to standardize the quality. Radisson can range from rather luxurious to a somewhat seedy roadside motel. Radisson has recognized the problem and says they are trying to either upgrade a number of hotels or pull the franchise. One thing I have never figured out is Carlson's lack of crossover promotion among brands. When we first booked a RSSC cruise we were directed from the Radisson web site to Cruises,Inc.,rather than one of their own agencies. I would also think we would be offered deals on Carlson hotel brands pre or post cruise, but this does not happen. I guess they haven't discovered "synergy". One thing for which I am gratefull is they haven't attempted to offer TGI Friday's an an alternate restaurant on the Mariner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMS Olympic Posted December 3, 2005 #13 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I am sailing on the Voyager on Monday and will try to get an update. The name of the cruise line does not matter to me as much as the names of their ships. I dislike the fact that more original names cant be found like the ones used by Celebrity. Radisson uses Navigator, Voyager,Diamond......lets see, Princess has a Diamond....Royal caribbean has a Voyager, a Navigator and I believe a Mariner....... I'd like to see some new names for the ships along with the rebranding. Maybe the Nautilus, or maybe names of great cities around the world. Well in the mean time...Voyager here I come. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolebludger Posted December 4, 2005 #14 Share Posted December 4, 2005 Frankly, I don't care what they name the line. Never stayed at a Radisson hotel, and never cruised Regency cruise line --- so these associations mean nothing to me. But it does seem that a refined and classsy-sounding new name was "right under their noses" and they missed it. "Carlson Cruise Lines." Thanks, Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedC Posted December 14, 2005 #15 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Douglas Ward's "Complete Guide to Cruising & Cruise Ships 2006" refers to Regent Seven Seas Cruises - no mention of Radisson. I saw the book at Border's today. In just a quick glance at some of the ship reviews I spotted some glaring errors - makes you wonder how credible the book is. The cover states it's the 21st year of publication. You would think he would have a better handle on the facts by now. How embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattInFLL Posted December 17, 2005 #16 Share Posted December 17, 2005 My dear friend just got off the Mariner after 30+ days and there were RSSC execs on board discussing the change to Regent. The other change they talked about was making the line fully inclusive, like Silversea, rather than partially inclusive as it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolebludger Posted December 17, 2005 #17 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Well, as Radisson (or Regent) has now priced itself right up there with the "all inclusive lines" (if not higher), a change to "all inclusive" would be most appropriate -- especially if they wish to retain the business of those of us who cruised them when they were "almost all inclusive" and a great deal less expensive. Thanks, Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird71 Posted December 18, 2005 #18 Share Posted December 18, 2005 I vote for dropping the hotel label and just go with Seven Seas. Most ppl have not heard of Regent which is not as well known as Radisson. IMHO, I do not go on a cruise because of a hotel name..... :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charsie Posted December 19, 2005 #19 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I agree - I'd like it to just be "Seven Seas Cruises", it sounds elegant! But silly as it sounds - I think they've invested too much into the RSSC logo - they have to fill the "R" in. Either way, I've loved Radisson, have sailed them 4 times (with one booked for February), but if they don't go all inclusive, I'm moving on to Silversea etc. For those who DO like the socializing/drinks etc., (that'd be me), I just find other luxury lines are fast becoming "better bang for your buck" than RSSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolebludger Posted December 20, 2005 #20 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Charsie: I am happy to hear someone else say that RSSC is no longer the "best bang or the buck" in light of increased fares, decreased discounts, and not going all inlusive. I had thought it was just me! Thanks, Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaitape Posted December 20, 2005 #21 Share Posted December 20, 2005 100% in agreement......Thanks for posting your opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougburns Posted December 20, 2005 #22 Share Posted December 20, 2005 From someone aboard right now. Exec VP for Marketing says the name change will take affect in Jan 2006 and the logos, etc will be changed as the ships are refurbed. So, I guess it's a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJ Posted March 3, 2006 #23 Share Posted March 3, 2006 Well it is now March 2006 and there is still no change to the new name to Regent Seven Seas Cruises. Has anyone heard when this will take place? I am also wondering with the new name, will there be other changes to improve the brand. I have been reading about the inclusive alcohol coming in 2007. Has anyone heard of other updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidJ Posted March 4, 2006 #24 Share Posted March 4, 2006 I received a letter from Radisson outlining some of the proposed changes after the public announcement which is set for the 7th of March. "The Regent Experience" will work to improve the brand over the next eighteen months. Decor will be refined, and there are promises of upgrades to entertainment, dining, enrichment and service. Watch for flat screen TV's, improvements in guest communications and more personalized travel experiences through Concierge programs. A new website will be started on the 8th of March with promises of up-to-date information @ www.TheRegentExperience.com. Should be fun to look for these changes in the months to come! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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