NH Cruisers Posted June 5, 2015 #1 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I hear a lot of NCL nickel and dime bashing on this thread. Just thought I would pass this little tidbit of info. NCL ships open the casino after 9:00 PM while docked in Bermuda and close it during the day. The RCCL ships (specifically Liberty ot the Seas) do not open the casino while in port. The fees for doing so are not worth it to RCCL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethrojam Posted June 5, 2015 #2 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyfan Posted June 6, 2015 #3 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I hear a lot of NCL nickel and dime bashing on this thread. Just thought I would pass this little tidbit of info. NCL ships open the casino after 9:00 PM while docked in Bermuda and close it during the day. The RCCL ships (specifically Liberty ot the Seas) do not open the casino while in port. The fees for doing so are not worth it to RCCL. I've never been on RCCL but Norwegian has a great casino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1025cruise Posted June 6, 2015 #4 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is specifically a Bermuda thing. Since most ships are docked there for 2-3 days, they were starting to look elsewhere since everything had to be closed while docked. In fact HAL pulled the Veendam over this to put it on a more profitable route. Bermuda finally passed legislation to allow the cruise lines to open their casinos at night while they are docked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypercafe Posted June 6, 2015 #5 Share Posted June 6, 2015 This is specifically a Bermuda thing. Since most ships are docked there for 2-3 days, they were starting to look elsewhere since everything had to be closed while docked. In fact HAL pulled the Veendam over this to put it on a more profitable route. Bermuda finally passed legislation to allow the cruise lines to open their casinos at night while they are docked. Yes, they are allow to but must pay a fee to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biker@sea Posted June 6, 2015 #6 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Yes, they are allow to but must pay a fee to do so. Who pay's it ? CAS ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypercafe Posted June 6, 2015 #7 Share Posted June 6, 2015 When talking on the ship my impression was the ship/line pays it however I really do not know how CAS plays into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titangas Posted June 6, 2015 #8 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I don't see how this relates to NCL not nickel and dining. Casinos are and always be revenue generators, it is like a license to print money. Regardless of the fees they pay, I am certain that they are coming out ahead, otherwise they simply would not do so. Pretty simple for them to analyze just by figuring the average nightly take. They can also track the alcohol revenue as well. It's not like it is costing them anything else -- all of the other costs of the casino are sunk costs regardless of how many nights of a cruise it is open. If they continue to do it -- It is making them money. If they discontinue it -- then it was not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanandJim Posted June 6, 2015 #9 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I don't see how this relates to NCL not nickel and dining. Casinos are and always be revenue generators, it is like a license to print money. Regardless of the fees they pay, I am certain that they are coming out ahead, otherwise they simply would not do so. Pretty simple for them to analyze just by figuring the average nightly take. They can also track the alcohol revenue as well. It's not like it is costing them anything else -- all of the other costs of the casino are sunk costs regardless of how many nights of a cruise it is open. If they continue to do it -- It is making them money. If they discontinue it -- then it was not. Why do you say all of this as if it were a bad thing?? NCL is, or hopes to be, a profit making organization. If you're looking for a Cruise where everyone does what they do for the common good: http://peaceboat.org/english/?menu=44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motleyfan Posted June 6, 2015 #10 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Why do you say all of this as if it were a bad thing?? NCL is, or hopes to be, a profit making organization. If you're looking for a Cruise where everyone does what they do for the common good: http://peaceboat.org/english/?menu=44 Yeah that peace boat doesn't sound particularly fun lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titangas Posted June 6, 2015 #11 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Why do you say all of this as if it were a bad thing?? NCL is, or hopes to be, a profit making organization. If you're looking for a Cruise where everyone does what they do for the common good: http://peaceboat.org/english/?menu=44 I say none of this as if it were a bad thing. I am simply stating in contrast to the original post, that claims this as some magnanimous gesture by NCL that has nothing to do with the bottom line, that all it really does have to do with is the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted June 7, 2015 #12 Share Posted June 7, 2015 besides Bermuda, I have been on other ships in other places that allow Casinos to open. In Barbados for one on River boats in NO for another. I am sure there are others as its a local law issue. I am sure if the fee is too high they wouldn't open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted June 7, 2015 #13 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Bermuda changed their rules and now permits ships to have their casinos open during hours Bermuda designates. HAL stopped sailing to Bermuda and some speculate it was because they could not open the casino. It is the port which grants the approval to have casino and/or shops open; the ship does as directed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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