Royal Caribbean Gets Approval To Sail to Cuba

[jamesboat]

Well you can go on and on with your political posturing by cutting and pasting from the safety of your mouse or you can believe those that have been there.

Not surprising frankly.

 

Seriously. The Fathom forum is full of people with REAL WORLD CRUISE EXPERIENCE in Cuba.

 

But propaganda > facts for some.

[troykahack]

Well you can go on and on with your political posturing by cutting and pasting from the safety of your mouse or you can believe those that have been there.

Not surprising frankly.

 

 

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What is the law for a US Citizen.... no propaganda here... if you break the law, you break the law.

[mollyeilis]

You were required to remain in a specific area, correct?

 

That's literally the opposite of what the poster said.

 

 

 

 

Are you aware what happens if a non Cuban is hospitalized. It is a cash only system for those of us not Cuban Citizen. I have read some blogs regarding early tourist and seen pictures of the common hospital rooms. They don't have our medicines. CNN just did a report on the medical system there. Very little modern equipment and few instruments along with medicines. Just saying don't get sick. If you want to get the picture they show you in a specific area, go for it.

 

 

That's no different from other places.

 

DH was in England and he tripped and hit his head on an electric box on the sidewalk. Went to an urgent care then the ER. Was charged nothing. If he had needed scans of any sort then it would have required payment but those basic things weren't charged for.

 

Whereas when his coworker ended up with appendicitis in the States (he's a French citizen living and working in Ireland) not only did he get out behind the times healthcare (in Europe they try heavy antibiotics first bc they've found that that helps quite often, rather than the fear-based medicine in the US where they jump to often unnecessary surgery) but he got bill after bill for a year. It was covered through the health insurance their US based company takes for them when they travel, but the bills were sent to him first. He was shocked at how many different people and places billed. The US is pathetic in terms of all sorts of MD-based healthcare.

 

As for not having the right medicines? Ok. Amazing how there are any Cubans if they don't have the right drugs lol. Or maybe the us is over medicating?

 

 

You can either listen to cnn (I often wonder what agendas are behind such special reports) and strangers' blogs or you can hear the reports from people here who have been there.

[jamesboat]

Well that's the problem with legislating with your pen, the new President has a pen, too :)

 

But as a practical matter it's unlikely Trump will roll this back, regardless of the party platform. A lot of American companies are pouring millions into Cuba already, it would be hard to put the genie back in the bottle even if he wanted to. The cruise lines and airlines don't seem too concerned about it.

 

Woops.

 

 

Making good on a campaign pledge, President Donald Trump on Friday will announce a significant rollback of former President Barack Obama’s accord with Cuba by clearly banning tourist travel to the island, restating the importance of the 56-year-old trade embargo with the island and instituting a broad prohibition on financial transactions with companies significantly controlled by the Communist government’s military, according to a draft version of the directive obtained by POLITICO.

 

The administration says its goal is to put an end to business transactions that financially benefit the Castro regime while the Cuban people get little in return.

 

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The directive instructs the Secretary of the Treasury to consult with the Commerce Department to promulgate new rules 90 days after the presidential policy directive is issued Friday.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/15/trump-cuba-policy-239596

 

 

At this moment it is unclear if the cruise industry, which contracts with the government to dock, will be kicked out.

[lbjen]

I was wondering about that the other day when I heard about it. I feel bad for those who already have cruises booked with all this uncertainty.

[Crazy planning mom]

People still can cruise to St. Petersburg, Russia. Russia certainly is not a democratic country.

What about China?