kitty9 Posted December 13, 2005 #1 Share Posted December 13, 2005 There were a large number of very "senior" seniors on our Mille cruise and one evening a member of that "group" was walking around the ship, or shall I say shuffling around the ship, with his fly open and the tail of his shirt sticking straight out, kinda like the shirt had come across some *****. How does one handle a situation like this? I was in the casino about 90 minutes after the first sighting, and this poor gentleman was still in the same condition. How does one politely approach a stranger in a situation like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joramrose Posted December 13, 2005 #2 Share Posted December 13, 2005 I don't know the answer to your question but -- I do resent your labelling a matter of "super seniority." I have seen obscenities aboard ion the form of scantily dressed people, inappropriate behavior, folks drinking too much, etc. etc., let alone rambunctious children., I would not presume to label all teens, young adults, midlifers, or any other group for what one person does. I am in my ninth decade, I enjoy cruising, and I intend to keep it up on my favorite ships, even with rude "youngsters (anyone below the age of 72). without love joan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashdog_1 Posted December 13, 2005 #3 Share Posted December 13, 2005 This problem really has nothing to do with the age of the passenger. It's the same as if a woman's slip or label is showing. Another woman just mosies up to her and confides, right in her ear, "excuse me but i thought you'd want to know that your slip is showing." Then you've done your part to save the person from further embarrassment. if they ignore you, then so what. I'd recommend a man gently say the same to a man, "I noticed that your shirt is sticking out of your fly." if it is done in a gentlemanly way there should be no altercation. Caution. If the person is drunk, do not approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan-M Posted December 13, 2005 #4 Share Posted December 13, 2005 Do posts get much more offensive than this before they are removed? Perhaps this question could have been asked without using the words "super senior" and "shuffling". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitty9 Posted December 14, 2005 Author #5 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Oh for heaven's sake, this was meant in jest. Boy, have we all become so politically correct in everything? Geez, you can't call a older person a senior, you can't say Merry Christmas at Walmart. What's next? Can't call a kid misbehaving on a cruise an out of control teenager because you're lumping all teens into one group? Let me tell you folks something. I'm an overweight, disabled woman who walks with a limp and I don't let things said in jest get me in a lather. I've taken tons of crap from more people that I can count who've made fun of how I walk, since the age of 3 and I don't get all in a tizzy over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wv4891 Posted December 14, 2005 #6 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Let's just put it this way, not everyone reacts the same way. I happen to agree with you and found this to be very funny. Obviously, given the nature of an open internet chat board, others did not. I am sure that some of the comments from the above posters may illicit comments about their comments.... blah, blah, blah. BTW, I still say Merry Christmas and I don't shop at Walmart!! Oh, and I see you have met my daughter on one of your past cruises. Oh for heaven's sake, this was meant in jest. Boy, have we all become so politically correct in everything? Geez, you can't call a older person a senior, you can't say Merry Christmas at Walmart. What's next? Can't call a kid misbehaving on a cruise an out of control teenager because you're lumping all teens into one group?.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teedee Posted December 14, 2005 #7 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Oh for heaven's sake, this was meant in jest. Boy, have we all become so politically correct in everything? Geez, you can't call a older person a senior, you can't say Merry Christmas at Walmart. What's next? Can't call a kid misbehaving on a cruise an out of control teenager because you're lumping all teens into one group? Let me tell you folks something. I'm an overweight, disabled woman who walks with a limp and I don't let things said in jest get me in a lather. I've taken tons of crap from more people that I can count who've made fun of how I walk, since the age of 3 and I don't get all in a tizzy over it. Unfortunately it's impossible to tell the intent of a comment as you can when someone is speaking. It's impossible to tell what is being said as a joke and what is a serious question, using smilies can help with that.:) Anyway, without realizing the inent of the op's first post I've got to admit I can understand someone taking offense. Terri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNLROSE Posted December 14, 2005 #8 Share Posted December 14, 2005 You know---I don't know REALLY where I fall in this discussion, BUT......having a MIL in a "home", I can totally understand the OP's original post! It is not pleasant to be included in these "happenings" when one doesn't live there all year AND we visit each week & I have to tell you---I hope I'm in a coma when I get too old to "do for myself" JoAn, I'm sorry to disagree with you but....as long as I am as young as I am, I will continue to educate older folks to educate themselves to do better & strive for healthier bodies as they age! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan-M Posted December 14, 2005 #9 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Boy, have we all become so politically correct in everything? Yes, you can call a person "senior" but I think "super senior" and "very senior senior" are the comments that raised the eyebrows. I'm still in the pre-senior stage, but my eyebrows went up when I read this. I want to be like Joan....and still cruising in my ninth decade. Merry Christmas:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan-M Posted December 14, 2005 #10 Share Posted December 14, 2005 as long as I am as young as I am, I will continue to educate older folks to educate themselves to do better & strive for healthier bodies as they age! And in the case described by the OP, you would do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNLROSE Posted December 14, 2005 #11 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The "case" is described as "what"???? I deal with the elderly every day, I don't feel like I am an isolated incident in this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan-M Posted December 14, 2005 #12 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The "case" is described as "what"???? I deal with the elderly every day, I don't feel like I am an isolated incident in this thread! Should have been more clear and asked, "How would you answer her question.... How does one politely approach a stranger in a situation like that?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNLROSE Posted December 14, 2005 #13 Share Posted December 14, 2005 The answer to the question is-----VERY carefully!!!! As all dealing with the elderly is specific-- it is a call by the moment decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wv4891 Posted December 14, 2005 #14 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Oh Myyyy!!!:eek: :eek: .............it is a call by the moment decision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNLROSE Posted December 14, 2005 #15 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Bill---you're having WAY too much fun with this! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wv4891 Posted December 14, 2005 #16 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Rosie, You are right. I probably would have gone up to the guy and asked if he had put too much starch in his shirt...or words to that effect.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Walt Posted December 14, 2005 #17 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Being a super senior myself (I'm over 60 but not Medicare eligible yet...and even I amaze myself about my superb strength [yeh, right]) and being advised on an occasion or three that my trouser hardware was malfunctioning, I always appreciate the matter being brought to my attention in any manner. "Hey, bub, are ya braggin' or complainin'?" was my favorite, next to, "looks like things are a bit drafty down there". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurricaneSally Posted December 14, 2005 #18 Share Posted December 14, 2005 You should have asked if his shirt took his *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cechase Posted December 14, 2005 #19 Share Posted December 14, 2005 This is an interesting thread, but the term "super senior" seems to be more derogatory than descriptive. Me, I am a senior, on medicare, and will be 71 when my DW and I depart on our 11 night cruise on Mercury on Jan. 2nd. Bless her, she says that I look in my 50's - and no I am not discrept :D. Did have a 13 handicap at golf until tendonitis in the left wrist jumped up and stopped my golf game for a while. Can't take ***** because of my medication, but that has not been a hinderance. Frankly, it is not great to be getting older so please, please do not make jest of us. We are having a wonderful time, a wonderful life, and unlike our younger counterparts, are making every day count! Oh, and now and then I forget to zip up, which I have noticed is a rather common occurance amongst men of all ages!!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Texed Posted December 14, 2005 #20 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I hope I am a "Super" senior cruiser when I get older like a lot of the ones I have met while cruising.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marienbad Posted December 14, 2005 #21 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Although I am not the individual described in Kitty9's message, I think any male in that situation would appreciate a simple statement like, "Pardon me, but your fly is open." Even if he doesn't reply, you've done what you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongerob Posted December 14, 2005 #22 Share Posted December 14, 2005 I don't think Kitty9 was joking or intending to be derogatory, just trying to be descriptive. I think the best course might be to have a male approach the gent and make a suggestion as noted above about covering his wedding tackle. If he appears unresponsive or confused, have a ship's staff member look into it. We had a similar incident when we found a lady of advanced but indetermimate age wandering the passageways in a robe. She was very confused, could not communicate well, could not provide her cabin number, and either didn't have or didn't understand what a cruise card/key was. A supervisor was in the area and he took charge of the lady. And, as has been noted, it can be a delicate situation. My MIL appears healthy and can carry on a conversation, but might not remember what she was doing 10 minutes ago or what she was supposed to be doing. If you correct her, she can get angry in an instant. Case by case...exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkm Posted December 14, 2005 #23 Share Posted December 14, 2005 How funny. When I saw the title of this thread I thought she was talking about a super (or superb) senior. In other words, one that was above average.:D I guess my mind tries to go to the positive, not the negative.:rolleyes: Garry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marie Stevens Posted December 14, 2005 #24 Share Posted December 14, 2005 You "super young" people should wake up and smell the roses. It is later than you think. Time moves very quickly and oh, oh, you will be a senior, then a super senior and when the time comes you will be able to count your blessings that you have been able to get this far and are still having a great time going on cruises. If you were so disturbed by the gentleman who had a problem why didnt you approach him and in a vey friendly way say, "sir, I am sure you would like to know that you have a little wardrobe malfunction" and then point to the open fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cusyl Posted December 14, 2005 #25 Share Posted December 14, 2005 Hopefully I still have all my marbles. LOL I thought it interesting that a few months after Hurricane Charley we were on a HAL ship out of Tampa. There were about 100 people on the ship from a retirement condominium. In talking with one of them I learned that their condo in Charlotte County had been severely damaged in the hurricane and their insurance company had moved all of them to a large hotel in Tampa while repairs were made. Every time the hotel had a convention come in they would put all the residents on the ship for a week or two. The lady said that the insurance company had encouraged them to purchase so many things to replace theirs, but every time they went on the ship they had to pack everything up and put it in storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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