Jimsgirl Posted April 21, 2006 #1 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Disambarkation Ft Lauderdale April 17th: My time off was 9.15 but to aid my steward I left my cabin at 8.00, went as ordered to public area (Deck 5 Atrium Lounge) Crowded with people, some standing , saw a group seating for 5, occupied by a couple with one carry on bag beside them, I went to the empty seats,told "You can't sit there, we are saving them for our friends, who HAVE GONE FOR BREAKFAST" I looked around and remarked "Saving seats is a no -no especially at disembarkation, I am here they are not" and sat down, adding, "If they come in the next 10 mins I will leave and let them have the seats" Well said couple spent next 10 mins haranging me without mercy, my birth, my parents, my lack of aducation - you name they covered it. Male informed me he was "a graduate engineer , this is our 7th cruise and we have never heard of not being able to save seats" (not sure what being a "graduate engineer" has to do with saving seats) I said "sorry the 10 mins is up, and I have done 40 cruises, and every ship from least expensive to the highest costs all have the same rule, I am staying" Whereupon Male raised his size 12 foot and KICKED me "How do you like that now leave" Well I suppose I should have called security, but instead said "If you do that again I will kick you back, in the soft spot between your legs and you can see how you like THAT" Female became all hysterical, saying "You have completely ruined out vacation you are a rude, ignorant horrible person" and rushed away, he added a few more scurrilous remarks about my parentage and then left taking their one carry on bag with them. Immediately a couple my own age (which is very senior I might add), scuttled into the vacant seats, they said they had tried to sit at that table before but had been ordered off by aggressive couple. I asked "why did you leave" to be told "we did not want any trouble"!!!! I suppose the moral of all this is that " Bad behaviour will prevail if we allow it without protest" It is up to all of us not only to observe the rules of the ship, but to take action when others deliberately break them for their own selfish ends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanie821 Posted April 21, 2006 #2 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I wouldn't have even asked why he kicked me - I would have just kicked him in the "soft spot" so hard that he would have had an imprint of my size-7 Champion sneaker. I've hit someone there before and wouldn't hesitate to do it again if the need arose. Love to know what his major malfunction was... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribbean dreams Posted April 21, 2006 #3 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I am so sorry you had to sit and take the abuse, Why must people be so mean, i guess they are so unhappy, that they must make everyone around them unhappy. On out last cruise there were crew members at the door telling us where we had to sit and if you got up and left, they refilled the seat right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngl116 Posted April 21, 2006 #4 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I don't know how you kept your composure! I have no patience for people with attitudes like that. I probably would have just kicked him where it counts, and given him no warning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery Seas Cruiser Posted April 21, 2006 #5 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I suppose the moral of all this is that " Bad behaviour will prevail if we allow it without protest" It is up to all of us not only to observe the rules of the ship, but to take action when others deliberately break them for their own selfish ends These people were despicable and arrogant, but you really should have called security at once the minute the Neanderthal kicked you. That was assault, pure and simple. It could have quickly escalated. I'm certain the man uses physical force to resolve many of his frustrations. I actually pity his wife, because she may have feared an escalation based on her own expereince with the brute. Her behavior was to protect herself. She was "afraid." I'm sorry she aimed her fear at you. The "man" is the consummate barbarian in this incident. Security should have been called. That man should never be allowed on another ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1180 Posted April 21, 2006 #6 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Absolutely unacceptable! I know 5 year olds who know better than to kick people when they are angry. You are such a better person than I because he would have regretted ever laying a "foot" on me! Security would have been the least of his problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crucero-amante Posted April 21, 2006 #7 Share Posted April 21, 2006 I don't know how you kept your composure! I have no patience for people with attitudes like that. I probably would have just kicked him where it counts, and given him no warning. No, give warning by asking if they know the capital of Thailand? Bangkok!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVScooby Posted April 21, 2006 #8 Share Posted April 21, 2006 Senior Engineer? I would have asked him what rail line. Btw, I only have a BA in political science. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeanie821 Posted April 21, 2006 #9 Share Posted April 21, 2006 No, give warning by asking if they know the capital of Thailand? Bangkok!:D ROTFLMBO!!!!!!! I love it!!!!!!! Seriously, though... I'm wondering now if this man might be abusive to his wife as well. Generally men who strike one woman hold all women in contempt. I speak from experience with a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patwell Posted April 21, 2006 #10 Share Posted April 21, 2006 WOW...what a nasty experience! People like this should be held accountable for their actions or they will just continue to do them when they don't get their way. Assault is just that...unprovoked assault of your body by another person. It's also against the law. I'd have called security, insisted that he be detained til the Lauderdale police could be called and then sworn out a warrant against him. Maybe then he'd think twice about physically abusing a stranger, and by your admission, an older one at that. Much as I'd also liked to have kicked him where it hurts, I don't think it helps to stoop to his level. Legal retribution is so much sweeter! Bullies will always be bullies, but we shouldn't have to just take it at any age, and they shouldn't just get away with it. By the way OP, I used to live in PGI. Cheers, Penny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapdaddy Posted April 21, 2006 #11 Share Posted April 21, 2006 With out getting into many of the details this scum's actions could have caused him more problems than he knows! If you were at an american port, and not at sea an assault charge by you may have detained him for some time, perhaps caused him to miss his plane, etc...who knows. The way I see it he got off easy. It is my educated guess that the crew would have handed him over to Port Police. I have had to deal with persons that have been removed from planes for their behavior and it is not very pleasant for them. You had great restraint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvery Seas Cruiser Posted April 22, 2006 #12 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Cruiseships have brigs. Your attacker should have been detained in the brig even if he did miss his plane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherry7 Posted April 22, 2006 #13 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Wow, you showed incredible restraint. I would have tossed him overboard! :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ger_77 Posted April 22, 2006 #14 Share Posted April 22, 2006 I just read this thread aloud to DH - his response was to roll his eyes and say "Oh God, Ger, please don't let that ever happen to you ... there will be an international incident. If that boor was Canadian, you'd drag him back across OUR border and nail his hide in the Canadian courts." I'm a Justice of the Peace and just the mere thought of somebody assaulting a traveller - a woman, a senior, and particularly on a cruise ship where people go to relax and get away from their daily cares really rankles me. You exercised far more restraint than I would have - I applaud you! Smooth Sailing! :) :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whimsy Posted April 22, 2006 #15 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Incredible! I can't believe how angry and hostile some people can be. To the OP, I am sorry you had to go thru that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterrats Posted April 22, 2006 #16 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Kudos to you. Hold your head up high and be proud. When that couple goes home and says they had a horrible time, you can take a bow. Amazing how at the end of the cruise it becomes ruined because people just don't know how to chill out. They must be super stressed and apparently the vacation did not relax them any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason's Storm Posted April 22, 2006 #17 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Should of "accidentally" thrown him overboard. ~JS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterrats Posted April 22, 2006 #18 Share Posted April 22, 2006 nah. that wouldn't be good because they were in port. For me, knowing I ruined there vacation within the 10 minutes that I was sitting down would just about double my enjoyment of the cruise. Its amazing how many people on a cruise are so uptight. If everyone didn't save seats in the hope of someone they know to sit down next to them, there would be plenty of seats for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sea_breaze Posted April 22, 2006 #19 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Sir "kickaolt" is lucky one of your fellow passengers didn't escort him overboard. Seeing a man kicking a lady would probably have prompted me to stick my nose in where maybe it doesn't belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Charlie Posted April 22, 2006 #20 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Bullies will always be bullies, but we shouldn't have to just take it at any age, and they shouldn't just get away with it. By the way OP, I used to live in PGI. Cheers, Penny Bully wasn't the description that came into my mind when I read OP's experience. I was thinking MCP --- male chauvinist pig---:mad: Bet I get bleeped or flamed for that, but men who abuse women, both verbally and physically, are inexcusable and should be punished. Dianne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clackey Posted April 23, 2006 #21 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I guess it is a good thing that I wasn't there. I would have beat this SOB to near death. Jail is not that bad if you are put there for a justifiable reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fury1995 Posted April 24, 2006 #22 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I would have made them aware that I had those chairs reserved since last night, and please get up.;) I am so happy you ruined their entire vacation. Good for you!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLAinVA Posted April 24, 2006 #23 Share Posted April 24, 2006 OT Waterrats---We live in Springfield VA also AND will be sailing on the Caribbean Princess this Saturday. Small world for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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