T.V. interview of overboard victim's parents

[mlbcruiser]

Just heard on the Today Show this morning that next wk. the parents of the 21 yr. old young man who fell overboard while on a RCI ship will be shown. This incident was so senseless! Somewhere along the line passengers have to accept some responsibility for what they do. My heart truly grieves for his parents, friends and other loved ones. As stupid as it was, he was just doing what so many people do on cruises, unfortunately.

[LadyGodiva]

Just heard on the Today Show this morning that next wk. the parents of the 21 yr. old young man who fell overboard while on a RCI ship will be shown. This incident was so senseless! Somewhere along the line passengers have to accept some responsibility for what they do. My heart truly grieves for his parents, friends and other loved ones. As stupid as it was, he was just doing what so many people do on cruises, unfortunately.

 

What was he supposed to have been doing? I assume it was something stupid?

[BearySweet2Cruise]

 

please explain what the heck your talking about... :confused:

[PhoenixCruiser]

Again I will say that I hope his family and friends are not members of CC :mad:

 

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[The Grumpus]

One thing I've noticed about this story is that it was a shame to me no one was watching the camera for the 2 hours he was filmed on deck 4 forward stumbling around, prior to falling overboard. Had I been crew and noticed him on camera for so long, I would have sent some crew or gone myself to check it out and if need be, escort him to his cabin. I know it's not the cruise lines responsibility in this case but this accident could possibly have been avoided if they had a person watching the CCTV live and had the responsibility to responded to a person on an outside deck that may have looked drunk and possible in a situation that could be dangerous.

 

After the fact, there's always lots of "if's and should of's" but usually by then, it's too late.

 

I'm guessing in the future, we might have to balance that on future cruises, we will have more cameras on deck and know someone is watching us every moment we step close to the rail. Given the ships are in international waters will go only so far and sooner or later they will make overall "passenger safety" a larger priority. It's not our fault or the cruise lines but it is reality. Had someone been watching this guy on CCTV, and had done something about it, they could have sent someone up there to check on him and possibility saved his life. If a.. should of.. could of.. but no.

 

I'm not getting on the RCCL bashing wagon, I just think that given the way things are now and knowing that more people are cruising everyday, perhaps they should probably protect themselves and the unfortunate people that put themselves in a bad situation when they are only trying to have a good time. I willing to accept a little more visible security on board if it means a few less people fall off ships.

[cmich068]

They don't watch every camera. They record the footage incase they need it.

[The Grumpus]

They don't watch every camera. They record the footage incase they need it.

 

I know, that's what bothers me about this accident. Had someone been watching, there would have been plenty of time to save his life.

[PhoenixCruiser]

I know, that's what bothers me about this accident. Had someone been watching, there would have been plenty of time to save his life.

 

They only watch the casino cameras live :( UGH

 

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[The Grumpus]

They only watch the casino cameras live :( UGH

 

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I think that's going to change. They see the numbers just like we do. And when the not so normal cruisers stop showing up because of what they read or see in the "news", cruise lines will have to implement new safety measures. Right or wrong, there fault or not, the time has come. It's just to cost of doing business.

[cmich068]

And we don't know what the parents are even going to say..... hopefully it's not a "we'll sue" type of interview.

[The Grumpus]

And we don't know what the parents are even going to say..... hopefully it's not a "we'll sue" type of interview.

 

I have a feeling they realize what the situation was at the time. Unfortunately, it was just a tragic accident given the way things are set up today.

 

That being said, RCCL is most definitely circling the wagons.

[Cruising89143]

It's not the cruise line or anyone else's responsibility to sit and watch the moves of every passenger. People have to take responsibility for their own actions.

[land lover]

What is the point of the parents going on this show, I just don't get it:confused:

[The Grumpus]

It's not the cruise line or anyone else's responsibility to sit and watch the moves of every passenger. People have to take responsibility for their own actions.

 

Yeah, that is true but when people are falling off your ships and the media is doing prime time shows about it every time it happens, you might want to start thinking about changing the security policies to prevent drunk people falling off. If it were me, I'd have some crew members keeping an eye out for that kind of thing. Not that I own any ships, maybe it's just too difficult to do.

[The Grumpus]

What is the point of the parents going on this show, I just don't get it:confused:

 

I hope to send a message to other young people to be careful when they are on vacation anywhere, and to use common sense to not put yourself in a situation that could endanger your life.

 

Think that's asking too much?:confused:

[SakeDad]

I remember being on the Promenade Deck at 3:00am with cocktail in hand enjoying the sea breeze as the moon shown brightly thinking...."It would be so easy to slip over the railing and wave goodbye to the ship"...:eek: ...Yes this is NOT what a normal person does on vacation but obviously SOME people do it so maybe there needs to be more attention paid to cameras and deck nets to prevent these tragedies from happening in the future! While cruise lines should NOT be held responsible for bad passenger behavior maybe they can at least ACCOUNT for it with more surveillance!

[madforcruising]

It's not the cruise line or anyone else's responsibility to sit and watch the moves of every passenger. People have to take responsibility for their own actions.

 

 

You are sooooo absolutely correct

[happy cruzer]

Do you think there should be a camera on every balcony? In every cabin?

[Nliedel]

At some point you ahve to realize you're drunk off your hind end and take some personal responsibility. It's not RCI's job to make sure I don't drink too much, it's mine. It's a horrible tradgedy and I am sick for his family, however if he was that drunk it was not the fault of the cruise line. Yes, bartenders should cut people off, but in the end it's *my* job to control me.

[Clarkk W Griswald]

First off, I want to say that my prayers are with this young man's family. It was a tragic, horrible accident. But.....

It is not the responsibility of the cruise lines to be babysitting adults. This man was drunk. Do you really want RCI or any cruiseline, telling you how much you can and cannot drink? Watching your every move? If this young man was at home drinking and then got into his car and drove into a tree, or fell off a bridge, would you all be saying that there should be cameras along all the roads, to monitor drunks? Or how about placing nets and railings around all the trees so something like this won't happen? Drunk people to stupid things and they have no one to blame but themselves. When tragedies happen, we all look to blame someone. But just make sure you place the blame where it belongs. If you are going on a cruise soon, and are worried about these tragic accidents, don't drink alcohol. Because that seems to be the common denominator in most of these accidents. And as Nliedel said above, yes, I agree that bartenders should cut people off, but this man, (and many on this board), sneak their own alcohol on board. The bartenders can't cut people off that they are not even serving.

[Mike & Sue]

At some point you ahve to realize you're drunk off your hind end and take some personal responsibility. It's not RCI's job to make sure I don't drink too much, it's mine. It's a horrible tradgedy and I am sick for his family, however if he was that drunk it was not the fault of the cruise line. Yes, bartenders should cut people off, but in the end it's *my* job to control me.

 

I agree, but some people blackout, they have no control at some point. I hate seeing this type of thing happening to young people over and over again in many settings - college campuses included. Inexperienced drinkers don't know when they are crossing that line.

[Cruising89143]

I remember being on the Promenade Deck at 3:00am with cocktail in hand enjoying the sea breeze as the moon shown brightly thinking...."It would be so easy to slip over the railing and wave goodbye to the ship"...:eek: ...Yes this is NOT what a normal person does on vacation but obviously SOME people do it so maybe there needs to be more attention paid to cameras and deck nets to prevent these tragedies from happening in the future! While cruise lines should NOT be held responsible for bad passenger behavior maybe they can at least ACCOUNT for it with more surveillance!

 

Nets??? Why don't they just build twenty foot high walls with plexiglass so that folks can look but not feel the ocean breeze or be able to enjoy hearing the seas as the ship moves through the water. Again, it is not the responsiblity of the cruise line to keep people from hurting or killing themselves. Ships have been sailing the world for hundreds of years and I see no need for changes to be made now for idiots that do stupid things. And no I am not trying to be insensitive to the young man that died. It was a tragedy but one that could have been prevented.

[SissasMomE]

At some point you ahve to realize you're drunk off your hind end and take some personal responsibility. It's not RCI's job to make sure I don't drink too much, it's mine. It's a horrible tradgedy and I am sick for his family, however if he was that drunk it was not the fault of the cruise line. Yes, bartenders should cut people off, but in the end it's *my* job to control me.

 

That is exactly why there are dramshop laws in the US. When you're that drunk, you simply cannot take responsibility. If he was still being served alcohol after he was inacapable of making a rational decision, then the fault lies with whomever served him. RC knows this. That is why they released the "they smuggled alcohol onboard". They are covering their butts in case of a lawsuit.

[MGoBlue2]

That is exactly why there are dramshop laws in the US. When you're that drunk, you simply cannot take responsibility. If he was still being served alcohol after he was inacapable of making a rational decision, then the fault lies with whomever served him. RC knows this. That is why they released the "they smuggled alcohol onboard". They are covering their butts in case of a lawsuit.

There are dramshop laws in this country mainly because there are too many lawyers and too many people willing to hire them.

[CruisinDawn]

I hate to even keep this thread going because we might get another one about mace :) but how do you fall overboard?? Drunk or not drunk, I have stood at the rail time after time and don't see how that is possible. Guess maybe I am just to short.

 

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