Curfew

[HunnyBunnyTink]

Curfew aside..................

 

I would hope the one thing everyone can agree on is that RC is a public company with stockholders and directors.........they have every RIGHT to set RULES for their business...........I would think no one can disagree with this.........

 

Enforcement........well that may be another issue and thread altogether........

 

but as a stockholder..........I understand the need for rules and appreciate any attempt to enforce them

 

So us stockholders that don't agree with this just have to sit and deal?

[CruiserNic]

Well, I honestly think that there shouldn't be a curfew. But there is, so I will abide by it. I will not go ahead and brake the rules. Im going to be in college for 3 months before I can stay out past one a.m on the ship. I can see why they do it, but I would prefer it the other way. Maybe I will change my mind when I become a parent, but right now its my belief. What I think is that this should go for anyone(including adults), you can stay out as late as you want (except if your parents have set certain rules) but if you act up in any way then you should be sent to your room.

IMHO.

 

They are trying to stop problems BEFORE they start. Some situations of "acting up" are not as easy to resolve as just sending kids to their rooms ie vandalism, bodily harm... I know there are a lot of teens under 18 who would be just fine to be out until later, but there is also a large number of teens who would not be fine. Since their maturity level isn't printed on their ID, it is more effecient to apply the rule to all teens under 18.

[MNCruiser_21]

I grew up in DuPage County, IL also! I had forgotten about the part of working after 10pm! How funny! You brought all that back! Thanks for the walk down memory lane!

 

Do you remember the only city in the county that was dry for a hundred years? I grew up there half way between the junior high and the very famous college.

Some how the street light thing seems vaguely familiar. I do remember having to stay within the yard once it hit twilight which lead to many games of kick the can with the neighbors across the street and right next door.

[MNCruiser_21]

So us stockholders that don't agree with this just have to sit and deal?

 

As a stockholder, you have a legitimate right to address your concerns on how the company is being run at each and every board meeting and annual shareholders meeting. Unless you are a majority stockholder or have a large number of like minded certificate holders who are able to proxy together, I doubt that the rules will change anytime soon. Oh and by the way, you need to be 18 in order to take advantage of those stockholder privileges. :)

I challenge you to find a cruise line that doesn't have a curfew for those under 18.

[bullsfan]

We had to be home when the street lights came on. We could be in the yard catching lightning bugs after that. Wow! Those were fun times. I grew up in Villa Park right between Elmhurst and Lombard in DuPage County. Again, thanks for starting the memory lane stroll..............

[Bailey969]

RCI should not be responsible for babysitting young teens into the wee hours of the am. I'm still having difficulty understanding what a 16 or 17 yr. old should or could be doing out and about at 1:00am??

 

Isn't that how we learn to become responsible young adults - by learning discipline. So - parent's make the excuse that because it's vacation - anything goes - they should be exempt from rules? It's one thing if they are out with their parents at that late hour - but off by themselves unattended - I think not. My daughter is 17 and will be cruising with us in a few weeks. Her curfew at home is between 110:00 and 12:00 (weekends). It will be no different on vacation - unless accompanied by an adult.

 

It's not only about what my daughter is capable of, by her own doing. It's about young teenage boys and those just old enough to drink. My daughter is 17 going on 25 - she certainly looks older than her age. It's for her own safety that she abide by MY rules... which includes a curfew. I applaud RCI's rules. It's for the children's protection and theirs.

 

I'm hardly old enough (37) to "forget what it was like to be a teenager"... that's an excuse in my opinion and shows lack of parental responsibility.

 

I don't agree with the all familar line "I trust my child".

It's about teaching them to respect rules, discipline and setting limits. Isn't that what makes good citizens?

 

:p

[HunnyBunnyTink]

I challenge you to find a cruise line that doesn't have a curfew for those under 18.

 

Carnival, Holland America, Celebrity, Princess and Norwgian dont.

 

2 of them I was on after I turned 13 and they didnt have a curfew and I have heard from others that Carnival, Princess and Norweigan don't. RCL seems to be the only major cruise line that has a teen curfew.

[volfan22701]

since our 16 year old likes to stay out late like us, and enjoy the vacation we paid our good money for. we all roamed the ship till around 3 am each night, and there were never any problems with kids. and no curfew. doesn't need to be. if kids act up the security can deliver them to their room and let the parents deal with them. but on our cruise never saw any problems from kids. although there were several drunk adults that should have been removed form the public areas. most of the people responding to this post either do not have kids, or have ones they can't control, but all the kids we know in our sons age group would be well behaved.

 

doug

[isujim]

So us stockholders that don't agree with this just have to sit and deal?

 

You can always go to the board meeting when it is announced:D

[yj2cute]

since our 16 year old likes to stay out late like us, and enjoy the vacation we paid our good money for. we all roamed the ship till around 3 am each night, and there were never any problems with kids. and no curfew. doesn't need to be. if kids act up the security can deliver them to their room and let the parents deal with them. but on our cruise never saw any problems from kids. although there were several drunk adults that should have been removed form the public areas. most of the people responding to this post either do not have kids, or have ones they can't control, but all the kids we know in our sons age group would be well behaved.

 

doug

 

Thanks, another good reason not to sail Carnival.

[Cruising89143]

since our 16 year old likes to stay out late like us, and enjoy the vacation we paid our good money for. we all roamed the ship till around 3 am each night, and there were never any problems with kids. and no curfew. doesn't need to be. if kids act up the security can deliver them to their room and let the parents deal with them. but on our cruise never saw any problems from kids. although there were several drunk adults that should have been removed form the public areas. most of the people responding to this post either do not have kids, or have ones they can't control, but all the kids we know in our sons age group would be well behaved.

 

doug

 

 

And as someone that cruised Carnival for many years I can tell you that they also need to set a curfew. Security should not have to "deliver" kids to their parents. Parents need to be parents 24/7 and make sure that their kids are behaving. It's not the cruise lines job to babysit the kids of anyone.

[madforcruising]

Carnival, Holland America, Celebrity, Princess and Norwgian dont.

 

2 of them I was on after I turned 13 and they didnt have a curfew and I have heard from others that Carnival, Princess and Norweigan don't. RCL seems to be the only major cruise line that has a teen curfew.

 

So then you already know what lines to cruise if you don´t agree with RCCL´s rules.

[isujim]

Now it is becoming Carnival vs. RC..............]

 

People just don't get it................:rolleyes:

[madforcruising]

Thanks, another good reason not to sail Carnival.

 

 

I second that:D

[isujim]

I second that:D

 

I third that!:D

[PH8]

since our 16 year old likes to stay out late like us, and enjoy the vacation we paid our good money for. we all roamed the ship till around 3 am each night,

 

doug

The family that roams together(till 3am) stays together!!

[MNCruiser_21]

Now it is becoming Carnival vs. RC..............]

 

People just don't get it................:rolleyes:

 

I don't think this is becoming a Carnival vs. RC thread. I think that people are expressing their opinion that they like the curfews and that they prefer to sail on a cruise line that has curfews and that will enforce them (although with much inconsistancy).

I don't have any great desire to sail Carnival personally; even without the curfew discussion, as it doesn't quite fit my style. I like RCCL. I might try other cruise lines; however, from what I have seen being next to Carnival ships in port and etc. they are not for me.

[tkportersat]

If you have not been on Carnival, please don't act like you know what you are talking about. It gets really old for me. I don't pretend to know anything about Celebrity, Princess, NCL, etc. - because I have never been on them but would be happy to give any of them a try in the future if the price and itinerary are right.

 

Back to the topic...........I think the curfew is a good idea, it is pretty much the time I have given my teenagers but relieves me as the bad guy a little bit - because it is a rule of the cruise line. I still set 1:00 for my kids on Carnival as well unless there is a special teen activity being offered. So far they have always complied. On that note, I did not notice any difference in the type of people that were on my Carnival cruises vs. my Royal Caribbean one. There are always some who are well behaved and others that aren't - whether it be adults or kids/teens.

[MrPete]

from what I have seen being next to Carnival ships in port and etc. they are not for me.

 

I've never been able to pull up next to a ship and quite know what the line was all about. How does one do that?

[volfan22701]

never will i believe that a curfew is needed. if a child has not learned by early teens right from wrong, and how to behave in public, they never will.

certainly nothing magic happens when they turn 18. if they cant behave at an early age, they will become the rude and obnoxious adults we all see sometimes in public. my kids, 28,25,16 all know what would happen to their tails if i ever caught them acting up in public. never have had that problem. having only been on one cruise so far i guess we lucked out and went on one with well behaved passengers, both young and old. didnt mean to sound like a carnival/rccl thing. we have a second carnival cruise later this year, but would certainly like to try other lines also.

[pcur]

OK so after skimming this thread, one of the points that I feel hasn't been addressed or stressed is the fact that RCI may not be enforcing this rule to avoid 'rowdy' teenagers, but may be enforcing it for the safety of them.

 

Even if you are the best behaved 17 year old girl, when you get tired and wander back to your cabin solo (even if it's not typical and you typically travel in groups) you don't know who you are going to encounter on your trip back.

 

I think the bottom line is RCI has this policy in place for reasons other than to 'ruin' a MINORS vacation, and is probably partly in place for the safety of their minor guests.

 

I agree with you completely. This isn't a situation where RCCL is trying to do the parents' job, or discriminating against teens. And, I do understand there are quite a few under 18 teens who are not doing anything unlawful or harmful.

 

However, the cruise line has HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of people sailing on their ships around the world every year. They have to set policies that protect their passengers, provide a positive experience for the majority of passengers, and follow the laws that are governing them. Casinos and bars don't allow minors in at all on land, so a cruise ship has to draw the line somewhere.

 

I don't necessarily agree that 1 AM is the right time, but I understand the cruise line's need to protect teens, and make the ship a safe environment. At 1 AM you have a lot of inebriated ADULTS on board the ship, and it's best to have minors in their cabins.

 

It's a "law of the masses" kind of thing. If teens and parents want late night activities for the teens, then they need to find another vacation venue.

[MrPete]

 

I don't necessarily agree that 1 AM is the right time,

 

It may quite possible be the time chosen is basically dependant on the time they have the army of "police" out. Full staff till one, and then set the curfew.

 

Just a thought.

[MNCruiser_21]

If you have not been on Carnival, please don't act like you know what you are talking about. It gets really old for me. I don't pretend to know anything about Celebrity, Princess, NCL, etc. - because I have never been on them but would be happy to give any of them a try in the future if the price and itinerary are right.

 

You know what, I don't know what I am talking about. I just have my own preferences and observations and those have lead me to my opinions and decisions. Are they 100% or even 80% accurate. Probably not. At this time I really enjoy RCCL and will continue to cruise with them. Hearing that other cruise lines are not as considerate of other passengers by not setting curfews for younger passengers helps with those opinions.

I've never been able to pull up next to a ship and quite know what the line was all about. How does one do that?

 

Considering I am not driving, steering, or navigating a ship; I will leave that to the professionals ;) , you are correct that it is not easy to know what a cruise line is about only by being next to them. I try to observe the guests getting on and off the ships as well as how they behave in both directions. Are there older people who cruise Carnival and have a great time; Absolutely. Are there younger people who cruise Carnival and have a relaxing laid back time; Absolutely. Are there a lot of over the top people who cruise Carnival and for that matter every cruise line; Absolutely.

 

never will i believe that a curfew is needed. if a child has not learned by early teens right from wrong, and how to behave in public, they never will.

 

Just to clarify, since I have been taken to task already on this subject, are you saying that you don't believe that the cruise line does not need a curfew or that you as a parent don't believe that curfews are needed? You are correct that if they haven't learned from their parents early on how to behave in public then they probably never will. But I also believe that how children and adults behave around their parents is always different from how they behave when they are not around. If they did, there wouldn't be so many parents or other relatives in shock when their child gets in trouble and does what they thought they would never do.

Back to what the OP was saying, I think it is good that RCCL is enforcing their own policy on curfews even if it is inconsistantly.

[jad7984]

Back to what the OP was saying, I think it is good that RCCL is enforcing their own policy on curfews even if it is inconsistantly.

 

I'm BAAACK!:D

 

If it's inconsistently, it means they aren't enforcing them the way they should. I've been on the Mariner, Explorer (three times) and the Enchantment (twice). Never once did I see anyone enforcing the rules. I cruised with family members who are 16 and 14. They stayed up many nights to watch the sun rise. Nobody sent them back to their cabin.

 

On the Princess cruises I have been on, to my knowledge, there is no curfew (and Princess is a step above RCCL).

 

And there is nothing wrong with Carnival. In fact, I have found the Carnival Valor to be less tacky than the Enchantment. I've also found the people on the Valor to be rather classy folks, while my Mariner cruise last month was full of casual families (who wore JEANS in the dining room on formal night!):eek:

 

So there's nothing wrong with Carnival, and I agree, with respect, that you cannot pull up next to a ship, observe the passengers and form an opinion on the cruise line as a whole. That would be stereotypical and, IMO, faulty. Take a cruise on Carnival and then decide. You just might like it. I sure did.

 

(And those of you who claim that a curfew is just one more reason to sail RCCL, I've found that kids are more well-behaved on Princess--WITHOUT a curfew!):rolleyes:

[BigBrit]

Did not realise this thread would have such longevity! From reading the RCL website I am not sure that they do ACTUALLY have a company wide curfew. It sounds like the curfew is enforced by the captain and this would explain why it is enforced on some ships and not others. Because it was Spring Break the captain may have put the curfew in place, even though there was not that many teenagers on board. Could somebody please confirm does RCL have a system wide company curfew or not? I do think it is unfair for a cruise line to have a policy which is not enforced through out all their ships. You should know what to expect before boarding! Also the previous poster will get flak for saying Princess is a step above RCL although I muat agree with him.